EPTIt would be nice if BW and SC2 could co-exist, but if KeSPA is going to compete against Gretech (same time slots, players can only be in one tourney, etc) then I can understand their position.
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Maul
Australia130 Posts
It would be nice if BW and SC2 could co-exist, but if KeSPA is going to compete against Gretech (same time slots, players can only be in one tourney, etc) then I can understand their position. | ||
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FishForThought
Canada88 Posts
On October 14 2010 09:27 Maul wrote: Has everyone forgot how KeSPA single-handedly prevented Gretech from having any more BW tournies after season 3? Why wouldn't Gretech want to shut KeSPA down? It would be nice if BW and SC2 could co-exist, but if KeSPA is going to compete against Gretech (same time slots, players can only be in one tourney, etc) then I can understand their position. Kespa strapped themselves with a bad publicity bomb. They are betting on using the bad publicity and public upset of a canceled proleague as deterrence against Gretech's lawsuit. Gretech should not fall into Kespa's trap by demanding a cease and desist but instead ask for compensation like all revenue generated from the new proleague season but that would need the proleague to complete. Its highly unlikely Kespa will survive another year. Gretech should just starve Kespa instead of going all-in. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
On October 14 2010 09:13 sylverfyre wrote: It seems clear to me that Gretech is more than FINE with BW continuing on, but they don't want it to compete for their own timeslot for the GSL. That's a perfectly reasonable thing to ask - they want the opportunity for BOTH GAMES to have the SAME FANS, rather than splitting the fan base between the two. If the timeslot issue was their primary demand, they're not "evil bad guys" they're just a corporation using their own rights to act on their own interests. Welcome to capitalism, this is how it works. Edit: Any confirmation on the timeslot issue being in the negotiations? It makes sense, but don't have a source. Honestly, stop trying to paint either side as a saint or demon, and let's bring a lot more FACTS to the table please? Except BW was there first. Capitalism would be GSL and BW competing for the same fans and the superior game coming out on top, or there being enough fans to support both simultaneously. Oh hey did I mention that I want to use the name sylverfyre now? It's mine now. You can use it, just not on any forums I frequent. Sounds kinda dumb huh. | ||
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Adila
United States874 Posts
On October 14 2010 09:42 revy wrote: Except BW was there first. Capitalism would be GSL and BW competing for the same fans and the superior game coming out on top, or there being enough fans to support both simultaneously. Oh hey did I mention that I want to use the name sylverfyre now? It's mine now. You can use it, just not on any forums I frequent. Sounds kinda dumb huh. That makes 0 sense when Blizzard owns the IP rights to both games. They also licensed those rights to Gretech. KeSPA owns the teams and players. If they want to have those teams and players play another game and charge, they are well within their rights to do so as long as that game company agrees. | ||
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Aerox
Malaysia1213 Posts
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Shidoshi
United States3 Posts
On October 14 2010 09:14 Kazeyonoma wrote: how in the hell is .3 million paid when they charged 1.2 million to each league 'generous offer'. its not really comparable since KESPA also helps to produce each league and provide the players. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On October 14 2010 07:12 Waxangel wrote: Even by Blizzard's account, there were no actual face to face negotiations until this year. O rly? AND I WONDER WHY???? | ||
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
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zenMaster
Canada761 Posts
On October 14 2010 10:05 Kazeyonoma wrote: and by "provide" the players you mean they have a monopoly over the progamer licenses, and can abuse it to control the entire e-sports scene right? At least they're taking E-sports in a good direction with stable living and salary for every player. Blizzard wants everyone to revert back to the ramen eating, apartment cramming, prize hunting days. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On October 14 2010 10:14 zenMaster wrote: At least they're taking E-sports in a good direction with stable living and salary for every player. Blizzard wants everyone to revert back to the ramen eating, apartment cramming, prize hunting days. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL | ||
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Yukidasu
Australia125 Posts
Gretech mining off 3 new expansions but has very few probes, defending with low eco while threatening carriers. Wonder if we'll make it to a completely split map. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Business is Business. KeSPA needs to understand that and stop acting like they have some mandate to broadcast games. I mean OGN has got there new contract no problem But either way the HardBall commences. | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
Take what you can get, what the hell. I want BW now, I don't care if Kespa cant buy the IP rights or whatever, sign the freakin contract! It's looking downhill for BW. It will be too awkward seeing a forced league happen. And I don't believe pro league is necessary for BW to live. I think the OSL is the most popular out of the three. Please continue the OSL. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On October 14 2010 10:59 Lokian wrote: I don't believe pro league is necessary for BW to live. I think the OSL is the most popular out of the three. Please continue the OSL. Proleague is necessary to sustain the pro teams, without which the OSL players lack a stable base of support. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50640 Posts
On October 14 2010 10:59 Lokian wrote: This is...this is... just like that one time. You know when Blizzard stopped negotiating with KeSPA? It happened again. This time they knew the deadline, but it wasn't 3 years... Take what you can get, what the hell. I want BW now, I don't care if Kespa cant buy the IP rights or whatever, sign the freakin contract! It's looking downhill for BW. It will be too awkward seeing a forced league happen. And I don't believe pro league is necessary for BW to live. I think the OSL is the most popular out of the three. Please continue the OSL. proleague is absolutely necessary for BW to live...Among the 3 proleague is the biggest hit by far. | ||
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keylow
Australia45 Posts
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MoriyaGXP
Korea (South)240 Posts
right now StarTale, TSL, and oGs have sponsors for their team... soon it will be more as more ex-BW pro to SC2... it's a fact... | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On October 14 2010 10:59 Lokian wrote:And I don't believe pro league is necessary for BW to live. I think the OSL is the most popular out of the three. Please continue the OSL. Proleague is by far the most important. Not only is it a constant stream of games, but it also allows new players to come about and the teams to be able to pay salaries. Also, the Proleague finals crush the leagues in importance. I'd rather the other 2 leagues die than lose PL. | ||
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