EPTBlizzard on 1v1 Balancing and the new patch - Page 15
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Forak
Netherlands64 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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noD
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
:D Btw, yeah, reapers now can be removed. But these changes help zerg too much, they wont be implemented im sure | ||
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Obsolescence
United States270 Posts
On October 08 2010 01:58 DarkspearTribe wrote: Just realised =/ That fucking sucks... There goes Tlo zerg raping build TvZ build. Hurry dario! Join the SWARM! Yeah I agree. How awful that Zerg might have a legitimate answer to a ball of hellions at Tier 1, you know, like Protoss already does. Revolt! | ||
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Thunderflesh
United States382 Posts
Considering switching to zerg now... | ||
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DoMo.
Australia20 Posts
"People need to understand the Roach range change is a subtle counter to the Pylon cannon wall in that Zergs will constantly face. The pylon cannon wall in is uncounterable until Hydralisks, and puts the Zerg very, very far behind because they need the expansion due to the way Larvae management works. " People need to understand that having a drone at your ramp patrolling isn't hard =) | ||
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WECKL
Sweden36 Posts
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EnderCN
United States499 Posts
The proxy marauder rushes and the double barracks on 9 marine rushes were probably too strong. The reaper change is pretty dumb but oh well, maybe they'll do something to buff them so they can become more of a regular unit now. The roach change definitely allows them to be used offensively. Zerg buildings desperately needed a HP buff. The one thing I'm a bit worried about with the Terran barracks change is Terran pretty much can't cheese anymore while the other races still can. | ||
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
On October 08 2010 02:05 Senx wrote: Blizzard is too obsessed with low league stats anyway.. they shouldn't balance the game based on them beacuse the players in them are there for a reason, they're not very good at the game.. this World of Warcraft balance approach scares the living crap out of me to be honest The changes weren't 'based' on them, all they did was add to the reasoning. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On October 08 2010 02:04 Cranberries wrote: Protoss can't cheese either. Zerg can't cheese either. If you think 6 pool or Proxy 2 Gateways are nearly as strong as the number of cheese options Terran has[d], I think you should initiate a 6 pool or Proxy 2 Gateways and see how easily you're shutdown. 6 pool on Steppes vs a Terran who probably won't be able even finish the rax before they arrive? Sure, with good micro the terran might hold off the first lings, but at low levels it's going to destroy terran every time. | ||
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Ayestes
United States106 Posts
I personally highly disagree with the Barracks requiring a Depot change, as the other changes they have mentioned would deal with Terran rushes well enough. Such as Nitro Packs being moved to Factory Tech, meaning Speedlings would be able to contain them and Terran would have a higher tech cost to reach that upgrade. Although that does mean we have the opportunity to see some Hellion + Reaper Ideas. In other words, opening up more styles of play rather the eliminating it is a much better change to me. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
6pool > you proxy gate > you canon rush > you i dunno what else needed to mention,it makes terran look like protoss race.I thought every race suppose to have a DIFFERENT way of playing,whats with their minds right now??? | ||
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icemanzdoinwork
447 Posts
I'm an aggressive Terran player and I 9 rax vs toss and 10 rax vs Terran. I usually rauder rush toss into a fe and rine bunker t's to a FE. I'm not a big fan of TvT so I play it different with early aggression and a FE to gain a economy advantage. Now my tvts are going to be soooo boring like normal tvt  . The other changes are fine, but the rax? Come on if Zerg can 6 pool I should be able to 9 rax ! | ||
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gotterdammerung
Austria17 Posts
On October 08 2010 01:58 Barook wrote: I predict a Psi-Storm nerf for the next patch, based on that statement. Storm is the reason why Protoss have an advantage against Terran in the late game. Maybe something like 80 damage over 5 instead of 4 seconds (20 DPS --> 16 DPS). Everything else would be retarded as T has already an advantage in the early game thanks to Marauders. Well colossus and storm are both equally as effective, colossus might be better as it is preferred to storm by korean pros.. so nerfing just storm wont fix it. we need to see some sort of colossus nerf, maybe reduced range. also the warp gates are sick, protoss can rebuild an army even faster than they could in sc1. Also archon warp is sick, it happens fast and toss can drop 6 storms then make an archon and they finish super fast. we need to see zealot nerf, HT nerf, colossus nerf, archon nerf, and perhaps get rid of the warp gates. I dont see why they are needed, in BW toss had a macro advantage and even in sc2 without warp gates, toss still has a higher gateway/warpgate count than the terran has barracks. | ||
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Chronicle
161 Posts
On October 08 2010 02:04 Liquid`Jinro wrote: The build I described happens to be one of the most popular semi-allins on the korean server -.- 3 void rays + 3 warpgate push, if you dont have vikings and/or a bunch of bunkers you will die. You stim once, he force fields your ramp and retreats, comes back when your marines have 10 less hp and repeats. Im not even saying its imbalanced, but its good. My point is the Role of the void ray is that of a reaper. You don't want it in your army, you only use it to all-in or watever. Its a Black Sheep unit just like the reaper is and outside of its niche it has few uses. If Void Rays did shit damage to buildings would you ever consider rushing for them? | ||
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Bleb
Croatia278 Posts
On October 08 2010 02:02 wrgrbl wrote: It's so INCREDIBLY misleading to post Diamond v Diamond winrates. People are placed into leagues BASED on their winrates so they tell you NOTHING. Imagine having a 4th race that was super weak- let's call them "Gerg." Gerg is so bad that only one gerg player could manage a 50% winrate against diamond players. So he's the only one promoted into diamond. Would people really point at him as evidence Gerg is balanced? I mean Diamond Gerg players have a 50% winrate. We should just wipe our hands and be done. Pretty dick move by blizzard to show off such misleading stats imo. ppl aren't placed into leagues based on their winrates only! it's winrate against "value of other player" that determines how many points you'll get -> which league are you in | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
This as an upgrade is OK The reaper speed upgrade will require the Factory, which is meant to weaken a lot of the early terran reaper attacks that dominate so many matches, especially in team games. This makes no sense imo :D | ||
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Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
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