EPTJaedong on his future in SC2 - Page 19
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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sl0w
United States447 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On October 05 2010 05:18 mustaju wrote: It might be a bleak future, with stupid micro, even more stupid gimmicks and graphics that make it hard to understand what's even going on. It's a future where area denial has become a battle of high ground vs. no high ground, not spider mines, lurkers, reavers or split strike forces. Massive blobs roam the battlefield, and harassment becomes harder to do since less bases are needed to get a critical mass of units out. Whereas WCG, the least important major BW tourney, with only 3 koreans, a "stale game", produced epic matches where a single scarab shot was way more exciting than I envision SC2 to go at this moment. If you don't believe me, watch JD vs. Flash game 2, or Kal vs. Flash game 1. I can't imagine this sort of greatness in any other game. And yet I see it ripped away for promises of an uncertain future. Sure, people like SC2, and I'm sure they have their reasons. But there isn't a shortage of players in the SC2 scene, and I don't understand why people feel the need for BW to be ripped apart. It would be a shame if SC2 crashes and burns, and there is no BW to pick up the pieces and give E-sports another try with a new game. The ONLY reason scarabs are interesting at all is because you never know if they are going to actually work. The odd bug of scarabs increased spectator tension at the cost of gameplay. Everything else in BW is equally exciting in SC2. The only reason you see this amazing BW greatness is because your eyes are all gleaming for BW nostalgia. | ||
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TitleRug
United States651 Posts
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On October 05 2010 07:02 TheRabidDeer wrote: The ONLY reason scarabs are interesting at all is because you never know if they are going to actually work. The odd bug of scarabs increased spectator tension at the cost of gameplay. Everything else in BW is equally exciting in SC2. The only reason you see this amazing BW greatness is because your eyes are all gleaming for BW nostalgia. Look, I'll PM you about the gameplay excitement topic specifically. However, I find it really hard to deny that a player of JD's caliber has a lot more to offer in BW than in SC2. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10114 Posts
Second: If Jaedong were to leave, then the entire Starcraft 1 community woujld just crumble into dust, because Flash would just ROFLSTOMP his way to victory EVERY SINGLE TIME. Thus, no more competition, no more SC1. Third: SC2 would just be conquered by Jaedong like the fuking beast he is and BAM! Next firve GSL will all go to Jaedong while Flash continued his rampage of a Jaedong-free zone in SC1. Flash 10 MOSL, Jaedong 5GSL | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Nich
397 Posts
On October 05 2010 07:02 TheRabidDeer wrote: The ONLY reason scarabs are interesting at all is because you never know if they are going to actually work. The odd bug of scarabs increased spectator tension at the cost of gameplay. Everything else in BW is equally exciting in SC2. The only reason you see this amazing BW greatness is because your eyes are all gleaming for BW nostalgia. The only thing i find SC2 interesting as a viewer are cutesy built by players | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 05 2010 07:32 FlaShFTW wrote: First: Jaedong needs to beat FlaSh in an ACTUAL finals with NO POWER OUTAGES!!! It's an actual final. That's kind of like saying Flash should beat JD in actual finals with decent maps. He also beat Flash in the tg-intel classic finals. Also I'd say that JD has more to offer in SC2 actually, SC2 Zerg needs him. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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HeavyArmZ
Brazil28 Posts
On October 05 2010 07:37 Nade wrote: The only thing i find SC2 interesting as a viewer are cutesy built by players You have obviously not watched the most recent GSL matches. Or even older ones, Cool vs OgsToP was imho even better than the finals (where Rainbow insisted too much on one strat), the semi-finals had some interesting stuff too. I've said it to pretty much every BW fanboy - BW hasn't developed and reached its top notch state of the art strategy game in 2 months, I don't care how many "pros" existed back then and how many "pros" there are now (trying to unveil all the possible bos), things will take some time. Don't go condemning the game just because it's not 100% a copy of the original. Plus, it's not looking grim at all with the latest tournies I've watched. I'd love to see how guys like JD and Flash would fare in SC 2, I wonder if they'd dominate as hard as the current sc1 progamers are. | ||
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
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Tef
Sweden443 Posts
I really enjoyed watching and playing SC, I enjoy watching SC2 as much and playing even more. As en e-sport SC2 has much more potential than SC to become popular outside of Korea. Only time can tell if SC2 will succeed. However, SC will never regain its popularity among casual gamers and thus the potential crowd is gone, with or without SC2. | ||
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Nich
397 Posts
On October 05 2010 07:47 HeavyArmZ wrote: You have obviously not watched the most recent GSL matches. Or even older ones, Cool vs OgsToP was imho even better than the finals (where Rainbow insisted too much on one strat), the semi-finals had some interesting stuff too. I've said it to pretty much every BW fanboy - BW hasn't developed and reached its top notch state of the art strategy game in 2 months, I don't care how many "pros" existed back then and how many "pros" there are now (trying to unveil all the possible bos), things will take some time. Don't go condemning the game just because it's not 100% a copy of the original. Plus, it's not looking grim at all with the latest tournies I've watched. I'd love to see how guys like JD and Flash would fare in SC 2, I wonder if they'd dominate as hard as the current sc1 progamers are. what???? i pretty much follow most of the matches in GSL, especially from the top 32 onwards. we are talking about spectator view, the only thing decent i could have think of is baneling bomb, and mass ultralisk against thor is so spectacular, NOT. and stop the BW fan boy shit. the 'wow' factor in the games are too little for the game to be nice for viewing pleasure. There is a cap in sc2 skill level, with all the features we have, >12 unit per group i won't be surprise if boxer nada didn't even made it to the final or get eliminated by no namers. The difference between a good and pro player margin gap is much more closer then it is in brood war. | ||
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biskit
Australia355 Posts
Like it or not, SC2 is the future of StarCraft scene. | ||
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tru_power22
Canada385 Posts
LEE-JAEDONG FIGHTING!!! Poor Idra, will no longer be the best SC2 zerg. | ||
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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peachsncream
United States289 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
On October 05 2010 11:31 peachsncream wrote: You guys do realize in sc2, jaedong won't be crazy sick like he is in brood war right... why do people think this? i mean people like idra who had great mechanics in BW are doing fine in scII. JD has even better mechanics than idra (part of the reason for his success in BW and one of his most identifying features) and he has really quick reflexes and is very adaptable. why should he do no better than idra? (note: i have nothing against idra at all, just basing this off of JD's BW success and the skill that he needed to do so in BW). We're talking about a guy who has the apm to never miss an inject larvae, who will spread his creep sickly, and can manage his armies even easier with the large groups allowed and will probably have the spare time to do any special micro if needed (as if autosurrounding zerglings need any help lol). He will be able to output many more commands than the vast majority of humans would be able to.. it certainly wouldn't hurt in his quest to become "crazy sick" at SCII or whatever game he plays in | ||
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