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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
February 11 2010 23:24 GMT
#1641
A Dell XPS tower. Don't remember the specs. But it can run Crysis and ME2 on highest specs with no difficulty, should be able to handle this game easily.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
February 12 2010 02:37 GMT
#1642
how informative lol
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
February 12 2010 04:00 GMT
#1643
What's overclocking and how complicated is it? oO Can I get away without overclocking an i7 920? It's like 2.66mhz without overclocking oO

=( I'm a PC NOOB! HELP!!!
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 12 2010 04:09 GMT
#1644
ghz, not mhz, I am reminded of the good old days.

You certainly don't need to overclock, but for something like an i7 920, buying it and not overclocking it feels rather like a waste. There are plenty of guides on the internet for overclock, and even ones made specifically for ocing the 920. I wouldn't say it is the simplest thing, but overclocking the i7 doesn't have too many complications.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11555 Posts
February 12 2010 04:15 GMT
#1645
It's not very hard to do, but if you don't want to, it's fine as it is.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
cmos543
Profile Joined October 2008
220 Posts
February 12 2010 05:18 GMT
#1646
OS: Windows 7 64Bit
CPU: AMD quadcore @ 2.6
Memory: 8 gigs ocz pc1000
Graphics: BFG GTX 280 1 gb onboard memory
Hard Drives: 500 gb
Monitor: 22" 1680x1050
Mobo: Asus
PSU: Ultra 750 watt
Keyboard: Razer lycosa
Mouse: Razer lychesis
You shall not misuse your screen name by using anonymity to sin
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 05:53:15
February 12 2010 07:31 GMT
#1647
On February 12 2010 13:09 Ecael wrote:
ghz, not mhz, I am reminded of the good old days.

You certainly don't need to overclock, but for something like an i7 920, buying it and not overclocking it feels rather like a waste. There are plenty of guides on the internet for overclock, and even ones made specifically for ocing the 920. I wouldn't say it is the simplest thing, but overclocking the i7 doesn't have too many complications.


On February 12 2010 13:15 FragKrag wrote:
It's not very hard to do, but if you don't want to, it's fine as it is.


Thanks, guys! Since I'm such a noob (and a noob pays twice (or twice as much)) should I just buy this and be happy with it?

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Case ( Thermaltake V9 Gaming Tower Case - Blue )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( [4-Port] iBUYPOWER Internal USB Expansion System )
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7 960 Processor (4x 3.20GHz/8MB L3 Cache) ) Or can I get away with i7 940? 920?
Processor Cooling ( XIGMATEK Dark Knight 120mm CPU Cooling Fan System - H.D.T. (Heat-pipe direct touch) technology )
Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1600 Triple Memory Module - Corsair Dominator )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 – 896MB - Single Card )
Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 -- Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI supported w/8-ch HD Audio, Triple-Channel DDR3, 2 Gb Lan, 4 PCI-E MB )
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Network Card ( Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Network Card )
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Power Protection ( Opti-UPS SS1200-AVR Mighty Voltage Regulator + Network 10/100/1000 LAN Surge Protector )


Is there anything I might be missing or reaaallyyyy overdoing?!

There's also this add-on thing "PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking" Is this all I need to overclock? Or that's part of it and then I need to do something else?

Sorry and any help is GREATLY appreciated. =)
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 08:02:29
February 12 2010 07:48 GMT
#1648
I want you to consider building your computer yourself. If you have that much money on hand, you could build yourself an amazing computer.

If you don't want to, here are some recs:

1. Downgrade the PSU. 1000W is way way way overkill. You aren't even running 2 graphics cards
----Do you want to SLi/Crossfire or not? If you do not plan on adding graphics cards, set that PSU down to around a 600W. If you want to SLi, 700W-800W.

2. I assume that since you want the i7 960 you do not want to OC. In that case, I would suggest downgrading to a i7 940. 2.93GHz is more than enough because most games are not dominantly CPU dependent. If you don't plan on overclocking, get rid of that Xigmatek cooler. It's an amazing piece of hardware, but it's useless if you don't want to get to 4.0GHz.

3. Upgrade your case to CoolerMaster HAF 922!!! Better airflow, nice roomy case, simple design etc.

4. Get the 5850 or the 5870 instead of the GTX 275. At this point, nvidia cards just aren't worth the money. The 5850 destroys the 275 in every benchmark and approaches the GTX 285, but is only $3 more than the 275.

edit: the 5870 is completely overpriced when relative prices are considered. +173 over a 5850 is a joke.

5. The 1600 speed ram is a bit of a waste in money imo, but whatever it shouldn't be a huge deal unless you want to save that money. Keep in mind X58 mobos have their memory clocked at 1067 (I think?).

6. That mobo is overkill if you do not plan to upgrade to SLi/Crossfire setup. Is there another board with SATA 6 and USB 3.0 which is a bit more cost-effective?

Overall, I found that ibuypower was ok if you were building a 'low-end' i7 computer, but if you are building such an enthusiast computer, I would definitely consider buying the parts yourself. You can save much more money, and get much more performance, and you have exact control of every single component that goes into your PC.

I don't trust the generic X watt PSUs that ibuypower sets up, but the other PSUs are far too overpriced.

That power overdrive is actually them overclocking it for you.

Edit: How much is that going to cost you? :/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
February 12 2010 08:19 GMT
#1649
On February 12 2010 16:48 FragKrag wrote:
How much is that going to cost you? :/


After I changed what you told me, $2,387.31 oO (With tax and delivery)

I'll pm you right now.
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 08:21:57
February 12 2010 08:20 GMT
#1650
remove tax and shipping please ;_;

It would help us recommend stuff if you had a plan for how you want to build your computer. If you want to stick with just one graphics card, I don't think there is much rationale for the i7 LGA 1366 in the first place. ;/

A budget limit would also help.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
February 12 2010 08:27 GMT
#1651
On February 12 2010 17:20 FragKrag wrote:
remove tax and shipping please ;_;

It would help us recommend stuff if you had a plan for how you want to build your computer. If you want to stick with just one graphics card, I don't think there is much rationale for the i7 LGA 1366 in the first place. ;/

A budget limit would also help.


$2,116.00 without tax/shipping.

Plan is - run SC/SC2 and maybe some other games/CAD on high quality settings. ^^

Budget - the less the better but if that's what I gotta pay, that's what I'll pay. "/
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11555 Posts
February 12 2010 08:35 GMT
#1652
In that case you don't need the triple channel RAM or the high clocked processor, or even a crossfired graphics solution.

Which means you should actually consider the LGA 1156 socket.

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=467

try messing around with that.

Get the i7 860 2.8GHz core, ATi 5850, 4GB of RAM, CoolerMaster 212 heatsink + fan, GA P55A UD3 motherboard, 650W Corsair PSU

other stuff is your choice. Should come to around 1.5k-1.6k after shipping.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 19:53:29
February 12 2010 19:42 GMT
#1653
I should prolly blog this, but i'll just post it here
My friend is building a comp, after he put it all together he hit the power button, and basically his motherboard wouldn't POST. It would start for maybe 2 seconds and then reset, go for 2 seconds, reset, start for 2 seconds, reset, etc. He tried a number of different configurations, took out everything except CPU, 1 stick of ram, and the video card, tried each stick of ram in different slots, used both the stock cooler and the cooler master heat sink in the build, none of those worked. He didn't have a spare video card to swap in so he couldn't test if that was the issue

So the question is, can a bad video card cause the system to fail to POST this epically? The ram seems to be ok (or at least, isn't the only problem) and he shouldn't be having any problems with CPU heat issues unless the heat sink and stock cooler were seated really really badly. So that leaves video card, CPU damage somehow (visually looks ok), power supply (but with so few components in it shouldn't overload it) or the motherboard. Any opinion on what's the most likely culprit? If he were close by this wouldn't be a problem, but he lives in NY (I live in Boston) and I bought his cpu/MB for him at the local microcenter so exchanging it isn't as easy as the rest of the components

build:
Intel i7-920
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P X58 1366 ATX Motherboard
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
OCZ ModXStream Pro Power Supply - 600-Watt
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB HD
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X
Acer P205H 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor
SAPPHIRE Radeon 5770 1GB


it's a bit of a flier, hopefully someone has a better idea. We've been searching around other various forums and sites we find from google and there's no real clear indication of what's wrong. Probably hard to diagnose without seeing the comp yourself, but I figured I'd ask just to make sure
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11555 Posts
February 12 2010 23:00 GMT
#1654
It most likely isn't the Video card. If I had to guess, it would either be the RAM or the motherboard.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 12 2010 23:24 GMT
#1655
On February 13 2010 04:42 KOFgokuon wrote:
I should prolly blog this, but i'll just post it here
My friend is building a comp, after he put it all together he hit the power button, and basically his motherboard wouldn't POST. It would start for maybe 2 seconds and then reset, go for 2 seconds, reset, start for 2 seconds, reset, etc. He tried a number of different configurations, took out everything except CPU, 1 stick of ram, and the video card, tried each stick of ram in different slots, used both the stock cooler and the cooler master heat sink in the build, none of those worked. He didn't have a spare video card to swap in so he couldn't test if that was the issue

So the question is, can a bad video card cause the system to fail to POST this epically? The ram seems to be ok (or at least, isn't the only problem) and he shouldn't be having any problems with CPU heat issues unless the heat sink and stock cooler were seated really really badly. So that leaves video card, CPU damage somehow (visually looks ok), power supply (but with so few components in it shouldn't overload it) or the motherboard. Any opinion on what's the most likely culprit? If he were close by this wouldn't be a problem, but he lives in NY (I live in Boston) and I bought his cpu/MB for him at the local microcenter so exchanging it isn't as easy as the rest of the components

build:
Intel i7-920
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P X58 1366 ATX Motherboard
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
OCZ ModXStream Pro Power Supply - 600-Watt
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB HD
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X
Acer P205H 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor
SAPPHIRE Radeon 5770 1GB


it's a bit of a flier, hopefully someone has a better idea. We've been searching around other various forums and sites we find from google and there's no real clear indication of what's wrong. Probably hard to diagnose without seeing the comp yourself, but I figured I'd ask just to make sure

Is this 4 pin power plugged in? The plug above and to the left of the processor.
Try testing with a different power supply, also.
U Gotta Skate.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 12 2010 23:38 GMT
#1656
If the 4pin power isn't plugged in, I don't think it would even start at all. I'd have to bet on the RAM or mobo too, but since it isn't too likely that we'll have all 3 sticks going wrong, mobo feels like the culprit.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
February 12 2010 23:51 GMT
#1657
On February 13 2010 04:42 KOFgokuon wrote:
I should prolly blog this, but i'll just post it here
My friend is building a comp, after he put it all together he hit the power button, and basically his motherboard wouldn't POST. It would start for maybe 2 seconds and then reset, go for 2 seconds, reset, start for 2 seconds, reset, etc. He tried a number of different configurations, took out everything except CPU, 1 stick of ram, and the video card, tried each stick of ram in different slots, used both the stock cooler and the cooler master heat sink in the build, none of those worked. He didn't have a spare video card to swap in so he couldn't test if that was the issue

So the question is, can a bad video card cause the system to fail to POST this epically? The ram seems to be ok (or at least, isn't the only problem) and he shouldn't be having any problems with CPU heat issues unless the heat sink and stock cooler were seated really really badly. So that leaves video card, CPU damage somehow (visually looks ok), power supply (but with so few components in it shouldn't overload it) or the motherboard. Any opinion on what's the most likely culprit? If he were close by this wouldn't be a problem, but he lives in NY (I live in Boston) and I bought his cpu/MB for him at the local microcenter so exchanging it isn't as easy as the rest of the components

build:
Intel i7-920
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P X58 1366 ATX Motherboard
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
OCZ ModXStream Pro Power Supply - 600-Watt
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB HD
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X
Acer P205H 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor
SAPPHIRE Radeon 5770 1GB


it's a bit of a flier, hopefully someone has a better idea. We've been searching around other various forums and sites we find from google and there's no real clear indication of what's wrong. Probably hard to diagnose without seeing the comp yourself, but I figured I'd ask just to make sure


I had that; a faulty CPU caused the motherboard to break down. Not sure if that's what it is, but it's something to consider, especially if it's starting for a small amount of time, then turning off, without POSTing.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 13 2010 00:11 GMT
#1658
if i had to take a guess i would say it's an issue with the psu or mobo. i had a similar issue pretty often but i didn't feel like mailing my parts in for warranty (still dont know which part is failing). sometimes it would boot up and the monitor would not pick up a signal and the computer just restarted itself in order to try and boot default settings. the solution i found was just hit the kill switch on the psu wait like 10 seconds and try booting again. usually it would then boot up and tell me overclock failed or something.
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cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 13 2010 00:23 GMT
#1659
I'd be really thankfull to anyone who can give me an answer about how/if SC2 will run on my laptop.

It's an Fujitsu Siemens - Amilo Li 2727
*Pentium DualCore @ 1.73Ghz
*2048 ram
*Intel GMA X3100

I have plans to buy a new pc, but is hard to get it now, so I'm really curious if my laptop will help until I get it.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51531 Posts
February 13 2010 00:30 GMT
#1660
Anyone know what would be the specs required to both play the game with max settings at a high resolution AND stream at a good frame rate? I'd imagine a solid quad-core with 4GB+ RAM.
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