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shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 14:53:55
October 14 2009 14:49 GMT
#721
My desktop will be total overkill but I would like to know if my notebook is capable of running SC2:

CPU: AMD Turion MT-32 @ 1,8 Ghz (singlecore but I hope he's just good enough)
RAM: 512 MB Ram (way to sparse but upgradeable to 2 GB (extremly expensive though :\ ))
GFX: ATI Mobility Radeon X700 with 128 MB VRAM (not shared)

The graphics card is the point: It's a real good card for such an old notebook (even better than those low-budget gfx-cards they use today), but maybe 128 VRAM is not enough for SC2. Also: The last driver update was in 2005 (~ Catalyst 5.3) and it's not compatible with those generic ATI-Mobility-drivers...

What do you think is a good benchmark-game? (= If this runs, SC2 will work)
The most recent game I played on that machine is Dawn of War: Soulstorm + Mods (runs great)
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 20:02:58
October 14 2009 20:02 GMT
#722
On October 14 2009 17:12 PastrySC wrote:
12 GB DDR3 1300

lol
Is that even useful ?

I thought 8 go was more than enough for gaming.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 20:35:44
October 14 2009 20:29 GMT
#723
Guys I have a simple question... if I don't want to assemble my own computer, what's the best place to buy one? I'm fine with buying online or at a store. I have a gateway right now, I'm pretty satisfied with the price/performance overall, but it came with a lot of annoying software i don't need and can't remove and it insists on me using a stupid backup utility, I can't just install windows fresh from a disc when I want to reformat, I have to use their recovery disks. What brands are good and which ones should I avoid? Are there any good ebay sellers/stores? Would buying all the parts and hiring somebody to assemble it be an affordable option? I'm looking to spend less than $1000 on both a computer AND monitor that can go to 1920 resolution, so no more than like 700-800 or so for the computer. I'm looking to buy around late November or early-mid December once I'm done with exams and have some time to do some research and comparison shopping.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
October 14 2009 23:06 GMT
#724
On October 15 2009 05:02 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 17:12 PastrySC wrote:
12 GB DDR3 1300

lol
Is that even useful ?

I thought 8 go was more than enough for gaming.

3 is enough for gaming.

Even if you run x64 os most games don't have x64 extensions or versions of it. So it's still limited to a x32 memory allocation. Meaning your GPU+Ram+other ram such as sound card = your total usage.
Most GPU use 512mb-1gig and your allocation ranges from 3.3gigs max usually meaning about 2.7gigs of ram is all you need.

High amount of RAM is great for high res photo and movie editing, Or if you just so wanted to open 1000 windows for some reason.
I don't use AIM/MSN/ etc stop asking...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
October 14 2009 23:08 GMT
#725
who doesn't want to keep everything on their computer open?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
October 14 2009 23:49 GMT
#726
The classic open 100 instances of IE still works today as a test!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 15 2009 00:01 GMT
#727
Who the hell needs 12gigs of RAM?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 02:56:32
October 15 2009 02:54 GMT
#728
2x 8800 GTX's thanks to a friend that gave them too me.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.40Ghz
2GB Ram
Windows 7 32bit
24" Dell Ultrasharp

Don't remember the make of my mobo or ram.

I'm simply not sure if I will need to upgrade my CPU & Ram + Mobo to i7 as it kinda expensive so will wait till beta shows performance.

On triple channel 3 or 6 GB is more then enough. Though more can't hurt and they can only ever make games that are able to use more ram better not worse so as long as you have multiple use for a lot of ram its never a bad thing, i.e. graphics work uses a lot of ram like Zbrush or 3DSM, Maya etc.
Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
October 15 2009 03:15 GMT
#729
On October 15 2009 09:01 Disregard wrote:
Who the hell needs 12gigs of RAM?

Again Video and Photo editing at high res def needs a ton of ram. Certain types of data compression also benefits from high amounts of ram. It's why photo editors and Video editors usually have a x64 version.
I don't use AIM/MSN/ etc stop asking...
Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
October 15 2009 03:21 GMT
#730
On October 15 2009 11:54 Adeeler wrote:
2x 8800 GTX's thanks to a friend that gave them too me.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.40Ghz
2GB Ram
Windows 7 32bit
24" Dell Ultrasharp

Don't remember the make of my mobo or ram.

I'm simply not sure if I will need to upgrade my CPU & Ram + Mobo to i7 as it kinda expensive so will wait till beta shows performance.

On triple channel 3 or 6 GB is more then enough. Though more can't hurt and they can only ever make games that are able to use more ram better not worse so as long as you have multiple use for a lot of ram its never a bad thing, i.e. graphics work uses a lot of ram like Zbrush or 3DSM, Maya etc.

The newer i7 and i5 platform is much less costly then the i7 LGA 1366, LGA 1366 def still has a performance niche but cost of ton.

One can assemble a i5 computer for about
180cpu +110 mobo(on the cheaper end)+ ram 80 (bit more expensive) it's only dual channel ddr3
So for about 370 or about 400 bucks which is the avg start up for a medium gaming grade computer mobo ram and cpu on a budget of about 700 bucks it's more then enough room.
I don't use AIM/MSN/ etc stop asking...
Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
October 15 2009 03:33 GMT
#731
On October 15 2009 05:29 Drowsy wrote:
Guys I have a simple question... if I don't want to assemble my own computer, what's the best place to buy one? I'm fine with buying online or at a store. I have a gateway right now, I'm pretty satisfied with the price/performance overall, but it came with a lot of annoying software i don't need and can't remove and it insists on me using a stupid backup utility, I can't just install windows fresh from a disc when I want to reformat, I have to use their recovery disks. What brands are good and which ones should I avoid? Are there any good ebay sellers/stores? Would buying all the parts and hiring somebody to assemble it be an affordable option? I'm looking to spend less than $1000 on both a computer AND monitor that can go to 1920 resolution, so no more than like 700-800 or so for the computer. I'm looking to buy around late November or early-mid December once I'm done with exams and have some time to do some research and comparison shopping.

Ibuypower is probably one of your best bets as they charge less for the whole assembly and shit

Seems possible i was able to configure a captiable computer for about 800 which easily can drop by 100 in 2 months

i5 with 5770 which is very capable, be a bit more capitalize if you weren't running at 1920x1200 but can't skimp on the cpu at that resolution esp if you plan on running rts games.
I don't use AIM/MSN/ etc stop asking...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
October 15 2009 03:42 GMT
#732
I think at the moment the 4870 is a better performer than the 5770. However, the 5770 does support dx11, but 256bit vs 128 bit is iffy imo.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
October 15 2009 03:58 GMT
#733
i5 is my new favorite toy, I almost wish I had waited for it instead of going with the 920. :p
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
October 15 2009 04:40 GMT
#734
On October 15 2009 12:58 Ecael wrote:
i5 is my new favorite toy, I almost wish I had waited for it instead of going with the 920. :p


Blasphemy. Even as stated by Intel, i7>i5.
U Gotta Skate.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 04:55:17
October 15 2009 04:53 GMT
#735
$180+ to spend on GPU > $0 to spend on GPU, but I'll practically always have full SLI or crossfire capabilities for the latter!

Jokes aside, just the miser in me kind of lamenting the sheer price difference.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 05:31:42
October 15 2009 05:30 GMT
#736
Okay guys i'm considering ordering this so i can run sc2 at lowest settings with 20-25fps. What do you think?

Case: Lian LI PC-P80 Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspxItem=N82E16811112159&Tpk=PC-P80
$349.99

CPU: 2x Intel Xeon W5590 @ 3.33ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117214
$3379.98

CPU Coolers: 2x ZALMAN CNPS9700
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019
$106.70

Hard Drives: 6x Corsair P128 (CMFSSD-128GBG2D) 128GB SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233087
$2099.94

Motherboard: Supermicro MBD-X8DAH+-O Dual LGA 1366
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182176
$449.99

RAM:6x Super Talent 24GB (3x8gb) (6x24gb = 144gb) DDR3 1333 ECC Registered
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609486
$9959.94

Monitors:2x LG W3000H-Bn Black 30"'' (eyefinity wooo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005115
$2319.98

Power Supply: IN WIN COMMANDER IRP-COM1200 1200w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817374014
$319.99

Video Cards: 2x XFX HD-587A-ZNF9 Radeon HD 5870 (eyefinity wooo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150443
$779.98

Sound Card: HT OMEGA STRIKER 7.1 (24-bit/96khz)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271001
$89.99

$20128.49

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man i wish i was rich enough to justify buying this, i've never heard much about dual LGA1366 performance.
U Gotta Skate.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
October 15 2009 05:49 GMT
#737
Aren't Xeons inefficient for gaming?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
October 15 2009 05:54 GMT
#738
...server processor?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 06:21:23
October 15 2009 06:13 GMT
#739
Doesn't really matter if it's a server processor. What will matter is the ECC memory bandwidth taken to town on.

Server vs Desktop cpu is actually more about the quality of the die then difference in articture or performance.

This is not a GPU where the board and the drivers are different although it's the same chip and there are no real drivers.

Mostly the difference will be in the mobo/chipset and Memory.

mobo usually isn't the issue infact usually are great.

Chipset isn't made for gaming but for bandwidth which usually isn't an issue.

Memory is EEC for error checking which takes up much of the bandwidth which is the issue.

Unless it's a sever that runs on IA64 instead of x86-64 which the chip listed isn't 't it's pretty much the same but better.

You spend more money for the EEC memory compliance along with that is best quality and care is taken into making these cpu's so the life span and things like overclock ability and reliability of the cpu is much more then the desktop cpu.

But the chipset and other things factor into the sever build.

That would actually be much better gaming then a desktop counterpart parts. But the cost is vastly different.

remember most severs are built and forgotten. More or less expected to last 10 years.

On October 15 2009 13:53 Ecael wrote:
$180+ to spend on GPU > $0 to spend on GPU, but I'll practically always have full SLI or crossfire capabilities for the latter!

Jokes aside, just the miser in me kind of lamenting the sheer price difference.

The x55 vs P55 sli/crossfire is hardly a joke well mostly yes but with high performance cards like 5870 and 295 you start to see a limit by the p55 8 lanes vs 16 and more so when you add even more cards like quad sli 9800gt's shows a quite noticeable difference. Enough of a difference for me to care. Hell maybe if i had money to throw around for the best. but alas i do not waste money on the best.
I don't use AIM/MSN/ etc stop asking...
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:30:10
October 15 2009 11:29 GMT
#740
On October 15 2009 12:42 FragKrag wrote:
I think at the moment the 4870 is a better performer than the 5770. However, the 5770 does support dx11, but 256bit vs 128 bit is iffy imo.

4870 ~ 5770
4890 > 5770

But the 5770 has Dx11 :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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