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servo2
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On October 10 2008 06:06 Flaccid wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2671/uspollnumbersoct92008gl2.jpg) The sad part is it's still going to be too close for comfort =[ Still better than I expected. P.S. this is servolisk and I forgot my pass and had no registered e-mail, could admin help plz? | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
1. Its a last ditch effort. Negative campaigning is effective. If McCain is behind, he has nothing to lose by going negative. 2. It may be too late and Obama may be too far ahead for McCain to hope to win. In that case, the GOP needs to shift into "attack and slime Obama" mode. Regardless of what you may think about the political parties, whichever party loses the Presidential election must begin to attack that President as much as possible. The sliming of GW Bush by the democratic party these last 6 years has been the most antagonistic and effective attack I have ever seen on a President. This can be evidenced by the fact that at most universities, a person can't even say he supports Bush without fearing for his life. It is also evidenced by the fact that a lot of you are now going to claim that Bush did it all to himself and the Democrats and nice people who would never slime a person's intelligence or character. The president is the straw horse of his party. By necessity, the other party must try to drag him down if they hope to win the next election. So if Obama is gonna win anyway, McCain/GOP figures, why not take down his pretty image before he goes into office. Just my thoughts. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 10 2008 09:56 Jibba wrote: GOP mentioned Obama's cocaine/pot usage as a teenager. They're opening up a can of worms that McCain himself probably doesn't want opened. His Navy history is as bad as anyone's. see: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 10 2008 10:02 Savio wrote: I was thinking today about how Obama is pulling ahead and McCain is getting more aggressive and negative in his ads. I think there are 2 reasons for McCain's negativity. 1. Its a last ditch effort. Negative campaigning is effective. If McCain is behind, he has nothing to lose by going negative. 2. It may be too late and Obama may be too far ahead for McCain to hope to win. In that case, the GOP needs to shift into "attack and slime Obama" mode. Regardless of what you may think about the political parties, whichever party loses the Presidential election must begin to attack that President as much as possible. The sliming of GW Bush by the democratic party these last 6 years has been the most antagonistic and effective attack I have ever seen on a President. This can be evidenced by the fact that at most universities, a person can't even say he supports Bush without fearing for his life. It is also evidenced by the fact that a lot of you are now going to claim that Bush did it all to himself and the Democrats and nice people who would never slime a person's intelligence or character. The president is the straw horse of his party. By necessity, the other party must try to drag him down if they hope to win the next election. So if Obama is gonna win anyway, McCain/GOP figures, why not take down his pretty image before he goes into office. Just my thoughts. Yeah! Bush was an awesome president! If it wasnt for those slimey democrats! Face it, Bush is considered one of the worst presidents in history because he was a bad president, not a good president made to look bad. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I'm going to go out on a limb and say if the tables were turned, Obama's campaign would not be mudslinging like McCain is. The country has gone through two hostile and divisive presidential elections in a row and we just finished a nasty primary season. Combine that with all the current major issues we're facing and I don't think they'd attempt to cause more hostility and polarization. I think they'd take the high road and concede gracefully. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
On October 10 2008 10:15 fusionsdf wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how they made the guy with 3 purple hearts look cowardly and the guy who skipped out on vietnam patriotic. No one knows, that's why it got its own word swiftboating. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On October 10 2008 10:15 fusionsdf wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how they made the guy with 3 purple hearts look cowardly and the guy who skipped out on vietnam patriotic. Well seeing how Obama was born in 1961... | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
On October 10 2008 11:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Well seeing how Obama was born in 1961... not talking about obama? | ||
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
correct How could anyone miss this? John Kerry and GWB. I suppose if you didn't follow the last election, but I thought (ignorant American warning) that US presidential elections were news around the world. BTW Swiftboats were not a small part of that election by any measure if foreign media didn't cover it they should have. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
edit- Drudge is reporting that a report is about to come out saying Obams was secretly talking to Iraq about troop levels? The right will be running with this hard. Probably McCains only chance at this point. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On October 10 2008 10:02 Savio wrote: The sliming of GW Bush by the democratic party these last 6 years has been the most antagonistic and effective attack I have ever seen on a President. This can be evidenced by the fact that at most universities, a person can't even say he supports Bush without fearing for his life. It is also evidenced by the fact that a lot of you are now going to claim that Bush did it all to himself and the Democrats and nice people who would never slime a person's intelligence or character. yeah, because none of the stigma about bush and the conservatives have to do with their foreign policy over the last 8 years. s'all demo sliming | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10884 Posts
On October 10 2008 06:00 Tsagacity wrote: Probably (hopefully?!) only a small portion of people are like this, but those that are are very scary  These people make the USA's image in the foreign world... Hell... Wouldn't i be a lot online i wouldn't know any other americans... sad... | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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a-game
Canada5208 Posts
On October 10 2008 10:10 Jibba wrote: Uh.. plenty of us have been continually critical of this Democratic congress. They blame the P's veto power but they do nothing on their own anyways. We just also recognize that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Powel, Gonzalez, etc. have done an extremely poor job as well. it's not just the presidential veto. the senate "filibuster" is completely imbalanced. republicans have made no efforts to acknowledge that the democrats have the majority in the senate and have filibustered at an unprecedented level. i don't think it's fair to blame the democrats until they have the actual power to pass bills in the senate (60 seat filibuster-proof majority). i think it's pretty ridiculous how thoroughly the republicans would have to be purged from the senate just to give the controlling party actual control of the senate there seems to be no acknowledgment in the media that the democrats don't actually have the power to pass bills, and thus i think their disapproval ratings are undeservedly large | ||
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