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wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 09 2008 16:01 GMT
#2421
Look how many pages back and notice the top .1% are heavily Democratic. The richer people are the more republican isn't because they are smarter it is because republicans don't tax the rich as much.

I always thought that was common sense, than again it isn't so common.
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
October 09 2008 16:21 GMT
#2422
On October 10 2008 00:44 Jibba wrote:
Intelligent people = democrats
rich = intelligent people
rich = republican

Hmmmmmmmmm

REPUBLICANTS R DEMOCRATS?
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
October 09 2008 16:23 GMT
#2423
On October 09 2008 18:57 fight_or_flight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 18:45 oneofthem wrote:
On October 09 2008 11:34 ahrara_ wrote:
On October 09 2008 11:30 oneofthem wrote:
On October 09 2008 10:11 ahrara_ wrote:
ultimately, i think evandi has a point

there are people in this thread who react wayyy too harshly to conservative opinions. the only thing that irked me about evandi was that he (and people who responded to him) focused so much on character and the who-said-what-when game. i really like savio's posts tho, because he tends to focus on content more.

anyway, i think we can all learn from this and be a little more tolerant of conservatives, and also spend less time on moot shit.

edit

does anyone else feel like every time a conservative starts posting he gets jumped in before being accepted by the thread. it's kind of ridiculous but also really funny.

fuck conservative opinions. forever crippled by myopia on vision and ideal in the grand scheme of things. even in specific instances where conservatives have been right, what is needed is not more conservatism but more refined policy responses from a vision that at least tries. i fail to see any redeeming feature in conservative ideology, especially given the meandering history of 'conservatism' as a token of political structure. give me an example of a conservative feature that is desirable or at any rate not entirely reprehensible in its own right. why would one want to be a conservative, and not merely a person who thinks "liberals" have some bad ideas and try to propose productive and humane alternatives.

and really, it is tiresome to repeat that political commentary is never neutral, especially meta perspectives like your post. you have not shown any reason as to why conservative opinions should be respected, and i suspect you've formed your political sympathies on too contemporary and narrow a range of readings. maybe look more into understanding theoretically the "liberal" positions and not merely see them as caricatures.

blah blah blah pastafarian blah blah myopia blah blah post-modern blah blah bigworditis blah blah blah

in summary:

SO TIRESOME blah blah
having little info on your background, i cannot make a more specific diagnosis. in any case, try harder. 3/10

How ahara can cover both the political and economic threads amazes me.

it has a lot to do with my extraordinary manliness

although to be fair most of my posts in here are along the lines of "U SUXORS I ROXORS GOGOGOG"
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 09 2008 16:28 GMT
#2424
But how are you judging the basis for intelligence? IQ? That's not a legitimate test. The fact of the matter is that you can't paint democrats, republicans, liberals or conservatives as smart or dumb, because every person lives under different circumstances and has to make a different rational choice based on that.

Are you going to tell me Columbia's liberal political science faculty is more intelligent than Stanford's conservative faculty? Chicago's Friedmanites are less intelligent than the SSE? It's a bullshit oversimplification to support your cause and one that both sides try to manipulate, but it's an all-around fallacious argument.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 09 2008 16:40 GMT
#2425
Oct. 8 (Bloomberg) -- American International Group Inc., castigated by the White House, Congress and Barack Obama for hosting a $440,000 conference days after an $85 billion federal bailout, plans to hold another gathering for brokers next week.

The event, at the Ritz-Carlton in California's Half Moon Bay, aims to ``motivate and educate'' about 150 independent agents who sell AIG coverage to high-end clients, said spokesman Nicholas Ashooh.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino today called ``despicable'' expenses from the first gathering, a weeklong conference last month at the St. Regis Resort in Monarch Beach. Those costs included $23,000 for spa services, according to Representative Henry Waxman, chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

AIG considered buying advertisements to explain its position, only to be told by public relations consultant George Sard that it would be ``a really bad idea.''


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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-09 17:40:34
October 09 2008 16:46 GMT
#2426
Question: Which Economics thread are you guys talking about when referring to Ahrara?

EDIT: I think I found it.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 09 2008 17:39 GMT
#2427
On October 09 2008 13:08 D10 wrote:
Imo the only state that would be better off would be california, for obvious reasons


California is asking for a bailout from the Federal Government. I doubt they would be better off on their own.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 09 2008 18:10 GMT
#2428
@ Evandi:

You cannot argue that the US has worse healthcare outcomes than Scandinavian countries simply because the US is bigger. You argued that because people's heath outcomes is a distribution from good to bad, that the larger group would suffer. That is just not good statistics.

Increasing the sampling size does not bias the result or change the mean values. It affects the variance only (actually lowers it).

There are valid reasons that comparing our health to Scandinavian countries is not a fair comparison, but sample size is not one of them. Demographics, cultural, and ethnic differences are valid points.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-09 18:23:22
October 09 2008 18:23 GMT
#2429
*sigh* (of pain, not relief)

RealClearPolitics in their tracking of state polls for the first time have shown Obama with over 270 votes (the required number to win) without even counting the toss-up states.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

Unless something major changes, this looks like its about over.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Clutch3
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1344 Posts
October 09 2008 18:23 GMT
#2430
On October 10 2008 02:39 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 13:08 D10 wrote:
Imo the only state that would be better off would be california, for obvious reasons


California is asking for a bailout from the Federal Government. I doubt they would be better off on their own.

Well, if you look at the amount that California pays to the federal government and the amount it receives, the deficit is more than enough to balance the California budget. So, financially, California would definitely be better off alone. On other fronts, it's kind of a matter of opinion.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr139.pdf
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-09 18:38:41
October 09 2008 18:35 GMT
#2431
On October 10 2008 03:23 Savio wrote:
*sigh* (of pain, not relief)

RealClearPolitics in their tracking of state polls for the first time have shown Obama with over 270 votes (the required number to win) without even counting the toss-up states.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

Unless something major changes, this looks like its about over.

come on savio, you know that the GOP is just saving wright/hussein/terrorism ads until closer to voting day.

i don't consider this thing in the bag until/if obama's weathered those attacks

i think the power of looping reverend wright sermons 72 hours before election day is being underestimated here

Edit: and i think obama could go a some ways to undercutting those attacks preemptively by having a second "wright" speech a couple weeks before voting day... (which still wouldn't be that effective, i mean those wright clips are GOLD)
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
October 09 2008 20:24 GMT
#2432
I still promise to get back to that one poster about Russia, and apologize for my smartaleck condescending tone last night (REALLY TIRED).

I will mention that "dirty tactics" like labeling Obama a "terrorist" are only effective in the long run. They take time to "cling" and gain traction. This happens because criticisms only work when there's a ring of truth, the candidates have to have a reputation for similar flaws. I don't think that's been established with Obama very well. Now you could argue this kinda rhetoric has been around throughout the campaign, but only recently has McCain really been pushing these ideas aggressively (with the exception of Ayers). ultimately, mccain's inability to stick to a consistent message, as opposed to Obama's campaign which from day one has labeled mccain as a typical republican, just like bush, and weak on the economy, is what is costing McCain this election. In other words, Obama has successfully cast McCain into the Republican stereotype, whereas McCain is running around like a chicken with its head cut off throwing whatever nonsense accusations it can muster. None of these accusations are sticking because none of it is a part of a consistent message.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-09 21:01:31
October 09 2008 21:00 GMT
#2433
Probably (hopefully?!) only a small portion of people are like this, but those that are are very scary

"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8866 Posts
October 09 2008 21:06 GMT
#2434
[image loading]


The sad part is it's still going to be too close for comfort =[
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7320 Posts
October 09 2008 21:15 GMT
#2435
On October 10 2008 06:00 Tsagacity wrote:
Probably (hopefully?!) only a small portion of people are like this, but those that are are very scary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E&eurl=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/09/mccain



those bitches are pathetic.

Its one thing to have a different viewpoint than someone if its logical at all. But to see those people.....they seem like your typical white bread anti anything not known to them middle american. Its sick
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8866 Posts
October 09 2008 21:46 GMT
#2436
The media uses the euphemism "low information voters" ;-)
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 09 2008 22:00 GMT
#2437
I LIEK SARAH PAYLINS
LEEV HURRR ALOWN
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 09 2008 22:20 GMT
#2438
Those people are from Ohio, what do you expect? If there's one group of people you're allowed to paint broad generalizations of, it's Ohioans.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
October 09 2008 22:39 GMT
#2439
lmao now mccain has pissed off the science community for his remarks on Obama's spending towards an "overhead projector" for a planetarium.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl78
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
October 09 2008 23:05 GMT
#2440
http://shop.adlerplanetarium.org/catalog/display.php?product_id=983

For anyone interested in what the said "overhead projector" is.
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