Who has highest APM ?

On June 02 2008 04:28 Leath wrote:
i think Nada still holds the title.

Doesnt Jaedong have like 250~ like most other zergs?

On June 02 2008 04:32 nevake wrote:
High apm doesn't always equate to bad macro -.-!

On June 02 2008 04:35 Guss wrote:
CASY

On June 02 2008 04:37 edzwoo wrote:


His APM isn't very high, I believe.

Three people that I can distinctly remember that have very high APM are July, Nada, and Hwasin.

On June 02 2008 04:20 KizZBG wrote:
T_T

On June 02 2008 05:08 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Isn't flash supposed to be godly fast? He plays like he is at anyrate oO

On June 02 2008 04:43 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
Nal_ra lol, i member one game he had an average of 130 apm :D

On June 02 2008 04:41 Supah wrote:

i remeber casy having like 402 and jaedong 396 in their latest game.

On June 02 2008 05:00 travis wrote:
remember when everyone was like

"omg this new guy chojja is so fast omg"

and

"omfg chojja is gonna be the best player ever"

?

On June 02 2008 04:34 jimminy_kriket wrote:

lol wut

On June 02 2008 04:22 Nitrogen23 wrote:
julyzerg used to have crazy high apm... i remember he peaked at like 818 in one match... lol.

On June 02 2008 05:46 Mindcrime wrote:
I'm a little surprised that Heaven hasn't been mentioned in this thread.

On June 02 2008 05:00 travis wrote:
remember when everyone was like

"omg this new guy chojja is so fast omg"

and

"omfg chojja is gonna be the best player ever"

?

On June 02 2008 06:56 goldenkrnboi wrote:



he was.



.......




(okay fine. only for a month. ._.)

On June 02 2008 06:44 Letmelose wrote:
As far as I know the players with the highest eapm (not apm) for each race are:

Terran - Light
Zerg - Jaedong
Protoss - Bisu

I remember the figures were roughly 260 for Light, 250 for Jaedong and 240 for Bisu. High apm doesn't necessarily mean high eapm: Xellos is known for his insane apm, but his eapm isn't as high as you'd think. As for Nada, I think his eapm was around 250.

On June 02 2008 04:37 edzwoo wrote:


His APM isn't very high, I believe.

Three people that I can distinctly remember that have very high APM are July, Nada, and Hwasin.

On June 02 2008 07:19 Jayson X wrote:
I'd say the difference between nada and a guy like for instance flash is that flash cycles trough his units most of the time and jumps screens when he has to while nada sometimes constantly jumps from one point to the next until you're about to throw up your lunch.

On June 02 2008 04:37 edzwoo wrote:


His APM isn't very high, I believe.

Three people that I can distinctly remember that have very high APM are July, Nada, and Hwasin.

On June 02 2008 08:26 CaucasianAsian wrote:
tossgirl has 400+
fast hands so she's good for what she does

She sits at the STX house and probably helps do the laundry instead of practising imo.

On June 02 2008 09:13 Yank31 wrote:



what a lack of imagination

On June 02 2008 08:44 dinmsab wrote:


Tossgirl can have all the APM she wants, it doesnt matter... she will still lose.

1v1 Record:
All: 0-8 (0.00%)
vT: 0-1 (0.00%)
vZ: 0-5 (0.00%)
vP: 0-2 (0.00%)

She sits at the STX house and probably helps do the laundry instead of practising imo.

On June 02 2008 09:13 Yank31 wrote:



what a lack of imagination

On June 02 2008 08:44 dinmsab wrote:
She sits at the STX house and probably helps do the laundry instead of practising imo.

On June 02 2008 09:54 WOrldCommunist8 wrote:



Is that what they call it now?

Anyways, I prefer the idea of EAPM or VAPM (depends on what program you use) as opposed to simple average APM. EAPM/VAPM analyze the replay. Thus, those who spam do not have ridiculous APMs (400 APM might equate to 260 VAPM)

On June 02 2008 07:18 kNyTTyM wrote:


hmm thats really interseting to know.

I'm pretty sure Casy has one of the highest I've ever seen. This is only based on one bo5 for each player, but Casy ranged in the mid 400s(430-450) while NaDa was Very High 300s to Low 400s(390-420)

On June 02 2008 10:06 arb wrote:
I wonder why her hands are so fast
>_>
<_<
>_>

On June 02 2008 05:33 G.s)NarutO wrote:
G.s)KyO 530++

On June 02 2008 12:20 gg_hertzz wrote:
what's eapm?

On June 02 2008 12:28 gg_hertzz wrote:
clazziquai i'll shoot you an email in a few days explaining how pros are able to achieve their apm. it's a long ass post.

and believe me, there's a 'secret' to it. otherwise i would not have been able to average 355 in my last 7 games.

On June 02 2008 12:28 gg_hertzz wrote:
clazziquai i'll shoot you an email in a few days explaining how pros are able to achieve their apm. it's a long ass post.

and believe me, there's a 'secret' to it. otherwise i would not have been able to average 355 in my last 7 games.

On June 02 2008 04:34 jimminy_kriket wrote:

lol wut

On June 02 2008 12:28 gg_hertzz wrote:
clazziquai i'll shoot you an email in a few days explaining how pros are able to achieve their apm. it's a long ass post.

and believe me, there's a 'secret' to it. otherwise i would not have been able to average 355 in my last 7 games.

On June 02 2008 13:03 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Blah I was spiking avg 177 apm vs computer today and I nearly had carpel tunnel

On June 02 2008 04:40 Supah wrote:
jaedong bad macro? wow... what zergs have good macro then?

On June 02 2008 12:28 gg_hertzz wrote:
clazziquai i'll shoot you an email in a few days explaining how pros are able to achieve their apm. it's a long ass post.

and believe me, there's a 'secret' to it. otherwise i would not have been able to average 355 in my last 7 games.

On June 02 2008 12:28 gg_hertzz wrote:
clazziquai i'll shoot you an email in a few days explaining how pros are able to achieve their apm. it's a long ass post.

and believe me, there's a 'secret' to it. otherwise i would not have been able to average 355 in my last 7 games.

On June 02 2008 11:02 clazziquai wrote:


For like what, a 3 minute game?

On June 02 2008 18:30 lolaloc wrote:
Proof that July has highest APM:


>>>>>>>>>>>video proof

On June 02 2008 04:43 rA.Xor.2 wrote:
Nal_rA lol, i member one game he had an average of 130 apm :D

On June 02 2008 07:50 DamageControL wrote:
I thought this would be polyphasic thread
Dog vs Human apm

On June 02 2008 10:06 arb wrote:
I wonder why her hands are so fast
>_>
<_<
>_>

On June 02 2008 15:01 Ancestral wrote:

This sounds exactly like every late night infomercial I've ever seen. "We have the secret to talking to women... for a larger quadriceps ... for losing weight ... for increased mental capacity ... to get rich etc."

But it's okay since you're clearing doing it as a joke.

Interesting this Heaven guy went 3-12, and I think everyone is being serious when they say he had the highest APM. I guess sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesn't.

On June 03 2008 07:23 Phoned wrote:
I'm going to close it.

On June 02 2008 20:13 gg_hertzz wrote:


hmm..i'm not sure why people are pissed at me. is it because they think that i am lying or that i won't tell them the 'secret' or maybe they just hate me for being an attention whore. ok, so i'm an attention whore. but i'm by far not the only, or biggest, attention whore on tl.net and what i do is completely harmless compared to most tl attention whores so basically i don't care.

my blog getting shut down was complete bullshit btw. most of the blog entries are by definition attention whoring in the first place and are just as or more useless as my entry. but that's a moot point.

but i didn't lie about the 'discovery' if you can call it that.

On June 03 2008 07:29 Februarys wrote:
I wonder what Boxer's APM averages ?

My guess is that its pretty damn slow for a Terran player

On June 02 2008 20:13 gg_hertzz wrote:


hmm..i'm not sure why people are pissed at me. is it because they think that i am lying or that i won't tell them the 'secret' or maybe they just hate me for being an attention whore. ok, so i'm an attention whore. but i'm by far not the only, or biggest, attention whore on tl.net and what i do is completely harmless compared to most tl attention whores so basically i don't care.

my blog getting shut down was complete bullshit btw. most of the blog entries are by definition attention whoring in the first place and are just as or more useless as my entry. but that's a moot point.

but i didn't lie about the 'discovery' if you can call it that.

On June 02 2008 18:30 lolaloc wrote:
Proof that July has highest APM:


>>>>>>>>>>>video proof

On June 02 2008 11:38 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:


Already adressed lol, I've never seen nal_ra's apm go above a 200 average =( yet he still can win a game doing a pure PROBE rush

On June 03 2008 10:01 oSS-Zarathustra wrote:

If you look down of the 800+ apm there is another APM, this is the Effective APM (no spam apm)
So as you can see July has only 250 real apm. The one you say is only the apm peak the one above is the normal average apm. So the one that is the most important is the EAPM because you cant get it just spaming with useless actions.

On June 03 2008 07:59 Guybrush wrote:
Micro intensive players have high apm

Hence players like Flash, Oov, Stork and Savior have low APM. Flash, Stork and Oov all have amazing macro(Savior used to have), hence they have low apm. I would imagine 815 have low apm too, and his macro is fantastic.

Two years ago would say Reach Nada and July were the fastest for their respective race, but right now I dont know. I would imagine guys like Jaedong Bisu and Nada or Casy are the fastest ones right now.

Doesnt really matter though as long as you're as effective as the macrointensive players mentioned first in my post.

On June 03 2008 11:11 NovaTheFeared wrote:


I thought the 3rd one was min APM, not EAPM. Can someone confirm?

On June 03 2008 17:41 ArC_man wrote:

It is the minimum APM, I've never seen Korean leagues use EAPM ever.

IMHO, I think Nada is still the "fastest". He might not have the highest APM, but his mouse speed is insane. If you watch any of his FPVods, you will notice that during his initial split, he will have all 4 of his SCVs split BEFORE they start moving (that just blows my mind away, you guys should try and see for yourself how hard it is). I've never seen that in any other pros' fpvods.

On June 03 2008 15:14 ktp wrote:


After reading through all the posts, this one is the only one that made any sense. Thank you.

On June 03 2008 18:27 0xDEADBEEF wrote:


Hm, if that wasn't ironic: it doesn't make any sense.
Oov and Savior have *low* APM by today's standards. Stork and Flash have both very high APM. So... Guybrush's whole idea is wrong.

On September 28 2008 22:33 vradovic wrote:
Can you explain me how you measure APM??? is there any statistic ??

On September 28 2008 23:57 Delirium wrote:
Didn't Daniel Lee say it was ELIZA ^-^

ELIZA is a computer program by Joseph Weizenbaum, designed in 1966, which parodied a Rogerian therapist, largely by rephrasing many of the patient's statements as questions and posing them to the patient.

On September 29 2008 00:00 lolaloc wrote:

Who the heck is ELIZA?

On October 05 2012 11:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I still don't think anyone has beaten July's record of that 800+ spike.

Or do you mean throughout an entire game... or do you mean on average?

On October 05 2012 12:36 asiantraceur wrote:
Does the APMAlert (shows APM and timer in game) work on iCCup? Like does the anithaxx launcher block it?

EDIT: Also which races have the highest APM and why? (and middle and lowest apm)

On October 05 2012 17:49 Pholon wrote:
Mizu

On October 05 2012 21:09 BisuDagger wrote:

This is a brood war thread lol. Dunno why there is apm discussion for a completely unrelated game. I'd sayfastest foreigner is Draco maybe or Nony.

On October 05 2012 21:09 BisuDagger wrote:

This is a brood war thread lol. Dunno why there is apm discussion for a completely unrelated game. I'd sayfastest foreigner is Draco maybe or Nony.

On October 05 2012 21:54 walkeraki3 wrote:
stephano.. around 400

On October 05 2012 22:28 googolplex wrote:

is the apm in sc2 measured the same way in BW?

On October 05 2012 22:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:

i think Nada apm is better than all those players together :p

On October 05 2012 23:12 iloveav wrote:
...
my highest apm in a regular game (thou spamming like getting laid depended on it) was 539.
Still, over 300 is overkill as far as i am concerned. ...

On October 06 2012 00:35 rebdomine wrote:


You might be thinking of great? Or maybe Hydra?

I recall they had pretty high APM.

On October 06 2012 01:57 synapse wrote:
July and JD have highest max apm is all i remember (800 and 700 respectively).

On October 06 2012 04:22 aquados wrote:

stork had a max apm of like 850.

On October 06 2012 02:56 TzTz wrote:
Just wanna add: You can't compare BW and SC2 APM because it is counted differently (The time factor)

On October 06 2012 04:39 Thorin wrote:

Presumably that was him hitting the keyboard with his fists before typing out of a lost OSL final? =]

On October 06 2012 06:31 aquados wrote:

lol:D how did you knew!!!!\

it was in a ro16 match. EVER Starleague Round of 16 Park Sung Joon vs. Jin Young-Soo

On October 06 2012 14:27 vOdToasT wrote:
Why are people posting their own apm here? I thought this thread is about the players who have the highest apm.

On October 05 2012 16:23 puppykiller wrote:
I want to know who in the foreign scene has the highest apm.

On October 06 2012 14:38 dRaW wrote:



yeah so it became not about who is good with a lot of apm, but how many noobs can spam a game to save a replay to compete in this thread of measuring useless stats.



probably sziky, always close to 400. It has to be a zerg at least, technics / pike / michael all high(300+). EX for terran was like 300 +/- in all his games and dOTY for protoss (always 320-350~). In terms of all time foreigners, I have no idea this is just current.

On October 05 2012 16:23 puppykiller wrote:
I want to know who in the foreign scene has the highest apm.

On October 05 2012 17:49 Pholon wrote:
Mizu

On June 02 2008 04:43 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
Nal_ra lol, i member one game he had an average of 130 apm :D

On June 29 2012 22:29 zimp wrote:
535 is the highest apm i've seen in a normal match longer than 10 minutes:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=51308 (from 2005)
but G.s)Kyo wins highest spam rate as well: ~70% hotkey usage

a rep from 2011 with 518 apm
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=51309

fastest progamer now is By.Cola from CJ i think, he is usually above 400, often 450+, close to 500
By.HerO is fast too but rather ~300-400, just like NaDa was and many many other progamer nowdays. july peaking once at 800 doesn't mean shit lol. he just held down the keys...

the apm highly depends on the matchup, build, and length of the game. generally if there is more ongoing micro, and the rep is short, the apm will be higher.
for example zergs usually have higher apm when using 2 hatch muta in zvt because its a heavy micro build and requires both hatchery spam and constant muta micro that means many move clicks at the same time. (thats why by.hero had so high apm vs fantasy in a 9minute game... but in other cases he is "just" ~350)

i think all progamers have pretty high e-apm, especially in TvZ where terrans need to do so many things, 250-60 Eapm in tvz is not rare at all in progaming standards. PvZ on the other hand is usually much more defensive so eapm stays lower there i think. Bisu still has 200+ eapm there too tho-.- his eapm is especially high.

but you don't need to have high apm to be successful, Savior raped everyone back then with ~230 normal apm, Fantasy has ~250, Stork ~270. Movie reached the osl final with his 220ish normal apm. Clever play and concentrating on the key micros is the most important.