Interview to Pat [PGTour Owner] - Page 3

Skew

United States1019 Posts

February 12 2008 03:06 GMT

#41

On February 12 2008 11:41 a-game wrote:
PR's contributed quite a lot but others commenting in this thread can't hold a flame to the contributions pat made. people like GI and skew should realize they are dwarfs on the BW scene compared to pat and should maybe think twice about dissing one of the gods of foreign SC

Please make a list of everything Pat contributed to the foreign starcraft community.

edit: Because apparently he did more than manage a small ladder website, then run away with everything when he got cranky.

CTStalker

Canada9720 Posts

February 12 2008 03:09 GMT

#42

that's a pretty retarded and gross over-simplifcation of the situation, especially considering this thread is about an interview explaining in part why he abandoned pgt

PuertoRican

United States5709 Posts

February 12 2008 03:10 GMT

#43

On February 12 2008 12:06 Skew wrote:

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In reality, he did 1 thing for the community, but that 1 thing was something that held the community together through hard times, which is a big thing.

Skew

United States1019 Posts

February 12 2008 03:38 GMT

#44

Well if you're going to give credit, give it to the ridiculous amount of admins that spent all their own time actually doing a good job and trying to keep it together, while taking no credit for themselves. Not the guy who started it, did some managing and then threw it all away without even considering the thousands that depended on it.

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Canada2170 Posts

February 12 2008 03:38 GMT

#45

Those who are blaming Pat really need to wake up. Anyone who was involved with the situation and/or spoke to Pat and the rest of the staff before it shut down know what the problems were.

For starters, PGT was costing Pat a fortune. He took a ridiculous amount of time out of his life, a life that involved a wife. He had a lot of real-life priorities that, without a single doubt, trump any video game and all that's related to it. But Pat dealt with that. Despite any problems in his personal life, he sunk more money and more time into PGTour. As it progressed, admins and webmasters had to leave for their own personal reasons, leaving Pat to do it all himself. After more time, it started getting worse. Hardware was being damaged and he had to hire outside help to work on the server. This was even more money out of pocket. That's the reason for the sponsors we had; to help maintain the costs of the server and website. And still, this money barely made a dent in Pat's final cost. So we rolled out the pay-per-click ads from Google. Those failed too (they canceled us for click-fraud, which never happened).

And then the cracker comes out and takes down the entire database. At that point, everything that was PGTour was lost. Recovering the ladder would have cost too much time and too much money. And this time, Pat was left to do it alone. The only choice Pat had was to let it go and let someone else pick up the slack. PGTour was dead, and all that remained was a partial website and almost no staff. What would be the point of trying to bring it back?

Sure, Pat taking off without saying a word to anyone sucked, big time. But hey, I don't blame him one bit. That was a big project of his and it got shit on big time and most of the players just bitched and complained.

The simple fact is that Pat didn't owe us anything. He brought us one of, if not the, best ladders we've ever seen to this day. It's just a shame we never got the chance to thank him personally for all his work.

skyglow1

New Zealand3962 Posts

February 12 2008 03:44 GMT

#46

iCCup copying PGT should be a flattering thing for those who owned and ran PGT. Imitation is the highest form of flattery anyway (or something like that).

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