• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:13
CEST 03:13
KST 10:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On7Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)65$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12BSL Season 218
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada Had to smile :) 2024/25 Off-Season Roster Moves SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update
Tourneys
$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BSL Season 21 Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup №3
Strategy
Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1827 users

Interview to Pat [PGTour Owner]

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
LG)cheloman
Profile Joined June 2004
Argentina159 Posts
February 10 2008 19:03 GMT
#1
You can see it here:

http://www.latingamers.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=137&Itemid=1
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
February 10 2008 19:15 GMT
#2
Hahaha.. ICCUP Copying PGT ^^
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
February 10 2008 19:18 GMT
#3
I really like the artwork on that page. Good stuff.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
February 10 2008 19:25 GMT
#4
very nice interview wish it were longer though
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
February 10 2008 19:46 GMT
#5
Wish this interview came much, much, earlier.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
February 11 2008 03:00 GMT
#6
interesting. wonder what hes up to now
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
February 11 2008 03:05 GMT
#7
for sure, i thought he was dead.
SNSD fan
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
February 11 2008 03:05 GMT
#8
horray, thanks Pat, not that your good wishes mean anything years after the fact. -_-
ModeratorGodfather
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
February 11 2008 03:06 GMT
#9
Cute.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
February 11 2008 03:14 GMT
#10
How is ICCup copying PGT? The fact that they're both on private servers?! While there is some room for differences in designing a site that is primarily a ladder, there will be so much that cannot be not copied.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
February 11 2008 03:18 GMT
#11
On February 11 2008 12:14 Dknight wrote:
How is ICCup copying PGT? The fact that they're both on private servers?! While there is some room for differences in designing a site that is primarily a ladder, there will be so much that cannot be not copied.


Word.

------------------

All gaming sites will have some similarity to one another, even if it's a small thing.
Ladder sites have a greater chance of being similar.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
February 11 2008 03:50 GMT
#12
iCCup clearly copied the rank letter icons... Along with the rating system. The forum points system is also a copy of PGT. I'm sure theres more, but I don't play iCCup. It's just what I noticed with in 10 seconds on browsing the site.

Anyways, I miss PGT. I rather enjoyed it.
Not bad for a cat toy.
BrutalMenace
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1237 Posts
February 11 2008 03:59 GMT
#13
WE LOVE YOU PAT!...

i played the beta season or w/e.... esp. season 1-2... then quit till like season 5 or w/e. Good times, i got lots of respect to people who do stuff like this for the community.
Agavond
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
448 Posts
February 11 2008 04:12 GMT
#14
nostalgia...

Anyone who takes the time and money to help the BW community deserves HUGE thanks.

THANKS GUYS <3333
O.oSins Since Op Cal
64565462
Profile Joined January 2008
Slovenia67 Posts
February 11 2008 04:15 GMT
#15
lol? abyss copied pgtour because they said so..."come to new ladder, new pgtour!!!", spamming on op tot) and other channels. why should they be ashamed of being a clone now that they've renamed the ladder and somewhat removed the corrupted russian admins who abused ladder system on old abyss...
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
February 11 2008 04:18 GMT
#16
i dont know why, but i liked pgtour alot more than iccup right now..
i really dont know why
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
February 11 2008 04:33 GMT
#17
On February 11 2008 12:50 Krohm wrote:
iCCup clearly copied the rank letter icons... Along with the rating system. The forum points system is also a copy of PGT. I'm sure theres more, but I don't play iCCup. It's just what I noticed with in 10 seconds on browsing the site.

Anyways, I miss PGT. I rather enjoyed it.


And PGT didn't copy from other ladders like Cloria or Cloud from back in the day? And PGT was the first to come up with Forum Points? And the list goes on.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
Phantom
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada2151 Posts
February 11 2008 04:38 GMT
#18
that's kinda random, at least we got an answer from him finally lol

for one thing, by design PGTour looks way cooler than iccup :D
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/members/Phantom
DTDominion
Profile Joined November 2005
United States2148 Posts
February 11 2008 04:39 GMT
#19
On February 11 2008 12:05 Manifesto7 wrote:
horray, thanks Pat, not that your good wishes mean anything years after the fact. -_-


I sorta know what you mean. The foreign Brood War scene took a major hit when PGTour went down, and Pat did nothing to at least explain why.
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
February 11 2008 04:40 GMT
#20
On February 11 2008 13:33 Dknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2008 12:50 Krohm wrote:
iCCup clearly copied the rank letter icons... Along with the rating system. The forum points system is also a copy of PGT. I'm sure theres more, but I don't play iCCup. It's just what I noticed with in 10 seconds on browsing the site.

Anyways, I miss PGT. I rather enjoyed it.


And PGT didn't copy from other ladders like Cloria or Cloud from back in the day? And PGT was the first to come up with Forum Points? And the list goes on.


Word.

----------------

Everyone will always compare a good ladder to a previous good ladder, and always say the older ladder was better.


All old school players will remember that Gamei (not the fake Game-i) was the best ladder ever for Starcraft.

Having to get a Korean to make you an account because you needed a Korean ss# was a big part of what made it fun, then playing games was exciting as well.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Online Event
23:00
L4S: Americas
SteadfastSC327
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 327
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 524
NaDa 25
Dota 2
monkeys_forever482
League of Legends
JimRising 192
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K598
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox317
ArmadaUGS18
Other Games
summit1g7426
shahzam746
Day[9].tv661
C9.Mang0315
Maynarde292
ViBE156
UpATreeSC109
NeuroSwarm66
Mew2King56
Models16
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler55
Other Games
• Scarra1032
• Day9tv661
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
9h 47m
Online Event
15h 47m
Online Event
1d 9h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 16h
Safe House 2
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.