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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:41 lugggy wrote: No I am pretty sure I asked everyone in-person and recorded their responses. You must not remember. You forgot to ask me, jerk. | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:26 lugggy wrote: How come this site is like 75% atheist yet 50% don't understand evolution's place in science, or what evolution is and isn't, etc.? Not every atheist needs to have a theory for being what they are to compete with the theory of God or any other divine/mystical origin, and even fewer are evolutionary biologists. Better question: why do you expect atheists to be experts on evolution theory? | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Also if you read the first page of the bible and go "oh, that makes sense" you are a moron. EDIT:I'm not knocking the whole book, just the first page. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
You can't be a commercial airline pilot while believing the earth is flat. Same for this guy. QFT. Evolution is so basic to biology that if for some reason you reject it then you're unemployed, and deservedly so. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:45 Eatme wrote: I hope he doesnt win his lawsuit. Plus he probably got his current job for claiming to be fired for being an creationist. Also if you read the first page of the bible and go "oh, that makes sense" you are a moron. EDIT:I'm not knocking the whole book, just the first page. Only the first page? I would say that about the whole of the primeval history presented in the Bible. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:49 Mindcrime wrote: Only the first page? I would say that about the whole of the primeval history presented in the Bible. Plus all the God-sanctioned genocide. | ||
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lugggy
450 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:43 Tadzio00 wrote: Not every atheist needs to have a theory for being what they are to compete with the theory of God or any other divine/mystical origin, and even fewer are evolutionary biologists. Better question: why do you expect atheists to be experts on evolution theory? It's not a level of expertise I am demanding. More like, basic knowledge. You know. The earth isn't flat, right? That's not expert training, that's what you should know. Like, you know there were dinosaurs right? It's stuff like that. Don't we pretty much all come from nations that have compulsory schooling for 10+ years? | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:52 lugggy wrote: It's not a level of expertise I am demanding. More like, basic knowledge. You know. The earth isn't flat, right? That's not expert training, that's what you should know. Like, you know there were dinosaurs right? It's stuff like that. Don't we pretty much all come from nations that have compulsory schooling for 10+ years? You really can't make those claims. There is no "basic knowledge". This are only "basic assumptions". Honestly, if someone told me that the earth was flat, I would have lunch with them and get them to explain their ideas. edit: look at it this way - another view is that a few centuries ago it was "basic knowledge" that the earth was flat. Pretty obvious to everyone at the time. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32046 Posts
•since it's a federally funded program, wouldn't it be in some way deal with a seperation of church and state? •i dont see how it could possibly be discrimination since he admits that he doesn't believe in the theory that he would be applying every day during work. And his findings would be published. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want someone's religious views finding their way into my biology text books.. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html It gives nice reason as to why ID should not be considered science. If a scientist really believed in this, especially a biologist, I would sincerely doubt his motivation and credibility. No matter who it is or what it's about, anyone with an unmovable belief in anything is not a true scientist. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32046 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:57 Kennigit wrote: haha i love this gif | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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Mayson
312 Posts
I don't doubt the anguish he's experiencing, although said cognitive dissonance is really his own fault for failing to look at the information available, compare and contrast that to his religious beliefs, and then realize that his religious beliefs are just that: beliefs; they are nothing more. They are not founded on any tangible, quantifiable evidence. But, as much as I hate to say it, I can't agree that firing him was correct. It is not the job of his employer to force his views on him, no matter how "correct" said employer may feel said views are. It is the right of the individual in this country to be free from religious prosecution. That's what the United States of America were founded on. He did not refuse to do his job; he refused to accept another's view of the given topic. There's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. | ||
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lugggy
450 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
On December 11 2007 06:07 HnR)hT wrote: How can belief in a proposition or lack thereof make someone unfit for any job? What if you went into physics not believing in gravity? And surely you would not want someone who builds cars not to believe in thermodynamics. The problem with belief is that it's unfounded. He could surely do his part to try to produce valid, experimental results that discredit the theory of evolution, but since he didn't, he was thrown out. There is no injustice in what happened to him. This is on the level of a holocaust doubter trying to become a historian and getting laughed at, and then him sueing for "mental anguish". | ||
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