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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
November 26 2007 18:44 GMT
#61
On November 27 2007 03:08 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2007 03:05 azndsh wrote:
That doesn't answer Hot Bid's question...

How does a protoss beat a Shadow Rush protoss just plays straight up?


The point of the rush is to catch a Protoss with his pants down.

It has Siege Tanks Vultures SCVs all with thier upgrades and abilities to build static defense.

You want to know how a Protoss beats it playing straight up? I told you.

either

a) Robotic in-human micro
or
b) Teching high (reaver/dark templar)..
or the fair
c) The protoss is much better at macro / micro, much better.
so pretty much if a protoss double expands and they're about the same level, but still beat it...

we can conclude they are a robot? that is so interesting i can't wait to try this build
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
November 26 2007 18:46 GMT
#62
Haha, by Robotic I mean't ProGamer micro, constant firing Dragoons or picking off/sniping essential spider mines / delaying the push.

And no 3base CAN'T beat the Shadow Rush, it requires 2Base from the information i've gathered, I've had higher level terrans test it out in other games, and it works out well.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-26 18:56:34
November 26 2007 18:49 GMT
#63
So they have to be a progamer to beat the shadow rush? Wow, you should never lose if you use the shadow rush it appears... Unless you are playing progamers?!?!? o_O

edit - you didn't really mean "progamer micro", you just meant people who can dance goons! right?!
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 26 2007 19:38 GMT
#64
nah hes right you arent gonna beat that rush with double expo.
but thats irrelevant since no one will double expo vs it. (floating a rax is not gonna make them think you're expoing)
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Ansible
Profile Joined September 2007
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 04:07:08
November 26 2007 19:45 GMT
#65
i am pretty sure the "shadow rush" was invented by my friend first (like 2 yrs ago)

he knew what the rush could grant you before the thread creator made this guide
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
November 26 2007 20:12 GMT
#66
Nick, your a fuckin nut! how long did it take you to type this? lol

nice work though.
Treatin' fools since '87
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-26 20:25:45
November 26 2007 20:25 GMT
#67
I am most impressed by your Studious Analysis and the results of your Data Gathering. My best wishes to your future Research. TvP is a most important Matchup Science, and your Efforts greatly illuminate the Darkness of Ignorance with the Torch of Knowledge.

This guide is truly a boon for all Humanity.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
November 26 2007 21:17 GMT
#68
hi lastshadow. nice guide. i really like the transition stuff.
I put the fu in fun
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 27 2007 03:08 GMT
#69
You know to be honest I never really liked Lastshadow because of his attitude but this seems like a pretty good guide, nice job
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 27 2007 03:39 GMT
#70
On November 27 2007 05:25 Aphelion wrote:
I am most impressed by your Studious Analysis and the results of your Data Gathering. My best wishes to your future Research. TvP is a most important Matchup Science, and your Efforts greatly illuminate the Darkness of Ignorance with the Torch of Knowledge.

This guide is truly a boon for all Humanity.


Spot on.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 27 2007 04:25 GMT
#71
I would also like to add that this is a nice guide, good job!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 04:58:25
November 27 2007 04:30 GMT
#72
shadow I really didn't like you but I must give you props for all your effort to help the community.

Thanks a lot!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 04:44:12
November 27 2007 04:43 GMT
#73
I really enjoy playing TvP than the other match ups but i definitely got some value out of this guide. Thanks alot for your input :D

Look out ICCUP!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 04:57:00
November 27 2007 04:44 GMT
#74
Hey shadow,
Q) What's the best response to a toss that harasses with Reaver followed by fast Carriers?

edit:
it seems like I can never get the timing right. I either attack too early and do insufficient damage, or attack too late and get pwned by carriers. It would be nice if you could point out the ideal timing and so on. Thanks
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 04:51:14
November 27 2007 04:49 GMT
#75
Yeah, I read most of it, and despite being difficult to read because of spelling/capitalization/grammar/usage mistakes, the guide has some pretty decent advice.

btw, I would also include Iris as belonging to the micro category. his timing attacks are way sick =)
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
November 27 2007 05:08 GMT
#76
who's Perfective? also, where does odin[fou] fit into all of this
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 27 2007 05:11 GMT
#77
On November 27 2007 14:08 tiffany wrote:
who's Perfective? also, where does odin[fou] fit into all of this


By.Perfective is a korean T player with some pretty creative build orders and good timing attacks. I watched a few of his reps in the massive Babara League pack that was posted a while ago.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
November 27 2007 05:17 GMT
#78
I like this guide... I honestly don't play very much anymore, but I'm actually going to make it a point to try a few of these builds out... you outline them clearly enough so that even my noob self should be able to pull it off. ^_^

Thanks LS!!
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
November 27 2007 05:18 GMT
#79
Hmm, I'll have to try some of this stuff thanks.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
November 27 2007 05:31 GMT
#80
Crap, now all these terrans will beat me

/cry

But awesome work LS, you sure know your stuff :D
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
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