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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
November 27 2007 05:49 GMT
#81
im coming back to BW...
thsi guide will help me alot in TvP(gay flank mu :[) thx ls. )) )
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
November 27 2007 06:02 GMT
#82
Pressure, I can help you!! Me gosu TvP, with the help of this guide that is. =]

We can hamachi or just play on west. Message me
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 27 2007 06:06 GMT
#83
Been playing Z so long, but it got kinda boring, switched to T

your guide was an excellent place to start learning TvP, even though i guess micro is my weak point in that matchup
posting on liquid sites in current year
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
November 27 2007 06:15 GMT
#84
I don't know...

I don't play much, so I guess I can't comment on strategy, but do these build orders (especially the shadow rush) really work like the OP says they do?

Any reports from people who tried them out?

I remain unconvinced...
returns upon momentous occasions.
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
November 27 2007 10:41 GMT
#85
all i know is, lastshadow is a complete dick. He cant take a loss. He ranted and screamed for 15min after i beat him, bragging about how good he was, about all the 'good' people on his friends list, and how he could beat me with any unit combination in a re. How he was 100x better player than i was, blah blah blah. So im not going to waste my time reading his crap, and i encourage all of you to do the same
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
November 27 2007 13:18 GMT
#86
On a sidenote lumberjack, you random, get P on close positions, then zeal rush me, and I have a misplaced wall. Feel good.


Answering all the questions now that I have time. Will update the Q&A Section now.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
November 27 2007 15:24 GMT
#87
Do you whine whenever someone zealot rushes you when they random and get Protoss? o_O...
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 15:55:22
November 27 2007 15:49 GMT
#88
i dont feel good, not at all? (who are you again?) and it was only 1 zeal? i dont like you, b/c all you do is whine and your ego is super inflated. And it was a complete wall, not that it matters... sigh. This is why i dont like you
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 27 2007 15:50 GMT
#89
On November 27 2007 22:18 lastshadow wrote:
On a sidenote lumberjack, you random, get P on close positions, then zeal rush me, and I have a misplaced wall. Feel good.


Red X this guy?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32139 Posts
November 27 2007 16:52 GMT
#90
On November 28 2007 00:50 NonY[rC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2007 22:18 lastshadow wrote:
On a sidenote lumberjack, you random, get P on close positions, then zeal rush me, and I have a misplaced wall. Feel good.


Red X this guy?


His true personality shines through once again!
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Ansible
Profile Joined September 2007
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 18:03:42
November 27 2007 17:11 GMT
#91
On November 27 2007 04:45 Someone wrote:
i am pretty sure the "shadow rush" was invented by my friend first (like 2 yrs ago)

he knew what the rush could grant you before the thread creator made this guide

edit: fixed

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 28 2007 02:17 Chill wrote:
Why are you quoting yourself?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
November 27 2007 17:17 GMT
#92
Why are you quoting yourself?
Moderator
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
November 27 2007 19:33 GMT
#93
On November 28 2007 02:11 Ansible wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2007 04:45 Someone wrote:
i am pretty sure the "shadow rush" was invented by my friend first (like 2 yrs ago)

he knew what the rush could grant you before the thread creator made this guide

edit: fixed

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 28 2007 02:17 Chill wrote:
Why are you quoting yourself?


What the hell does this accomplish?
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
November 27 2007 19:57 GMT
#94
He (she) lacks attention.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
November 27 2007 20:45 GMT
#95
On November 28 2007 02:11 Ansible wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2007 04:45 Someone wrote:
i am pretty sure the "shadow rush" was invented by my friend first (like 2 yrs ago)

he knew what the rush could grant you before the thread creator made this guide

edit: fixed

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 28 2007 02:17 Chill wrote:
Why are you quoting yourself?


Nice Spoiler

Lastshadow how do you react to 13 Nex?
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 21:05:32
November 27 2007 21:02 GMT
#96
Close this thread.

I'm fucking sick and tired of the pieces of shit that instant-flame me for no reason.

So LumberJack starts a flame, even though you Chill stated if I didn't start anything people would get punished, nice job there, so I respond to defend myself and I get hell?

I'm done answering questions since I'm "sooo bad" and I gotta be "red X'd" the responses are even worth it.

Sorry I tried providing a guide and defending myself from bullshit.
Nice job TL.net(SOME people) holding 5months old shit against someone, even though they've clearly tried to change for you.


EDIT - I guess I'll respond to the last question.

13nexus is responded to by 1 of these 3 things:

a)Marine + 7 scv rally to it, bunker it and take it down.
b)Vulture before machine-shop and 2nd factory + many marine timing attack.
c)You can FE on your own, and possibly take a 3rd if your daring.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 27 2007 21:04 GMT
#97
just a heads up -- if this has angered you, i'd avoid the site from now on
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
November 27 2007 21:06 GMT
#98
On November 28 2007 06:04 CTStalker wrote:
just a heads up -- if this has angered you, i'd avoid the site from now on


No this site is absolutely amazing, best BW site out there for foreigners.

However [some] of the people are complete dickheads. Not that I haven't been in the past, I was pretty big, I tried to change, but they hold grudges like holy shit.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
November 27 2007 21:13 GMT
#99
I will PM you the reason why moderation happened the way it did. As of now this thread will remain open in case there is some discussion yet to happen. If it turns into an argument it will be closed.
Moderator
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 21:50:42
November 27 2007 21:50 GMT
#100
On November 28 2007 06:02 lastshadow wrote:
Close this thread.

I'm fucking sick and tired of the pieces of shit that instant-flame me for no reason.
well, for starters, writing shit like

Author: LastShadOw
Current Patch: 1.15.1
Date: 2007 Year
To: TeamLiquid.Net
Updates: 3
Last Update: November 26th, 2007 10:12 A.M. Eastern Time Zone
Next Update Roughly: November 26th/27th 2007 P.M. Time.
makes you look exactly like the arrogant fuck everyone thinks you are

i mean seriously, your guide was perfectly applicable in 1.14 and will be perfectly applicable in 1.16. the year this guide was written in is pretty obvious in the timestamp on the post, and WHOA hold on there champ i had no idea i was reading teamliquid.net
aaaaa
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