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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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you half reading my stuff is more comedy. if its not hockey.. Canada is a good place to hide your age because no one cares enough about other sports to do some big investigation. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16569878/cleveland-cavaliers-gm-david-griffin-says-plan-keep-team-together I wonder if that includes signing Richard Jefferson. He played well this playoff season and he always murdered teh Raptors in the playoffs. Anyone can look up his #s so i won't post 'em. Outside of his stats.. the guy is just a really good, smart well rounded basketball player. if he cashes in due to the 2016 playoffs.. good for him. He is an important free agent. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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any user can look up the links that any other user posts... not sure what your point is here. i'm not supposed to post links? whatever teh deal is ... take it to PM. did u actually watch the 12 playoffs games where Jefferson opposed the Raptors? or are you just reading a stat sheet? the guy is good and he is good in the playoffs; he is a smart player. sry no link.. you'll just have to take my word for it.. and Tyron Lue's line up decisions as a reference. he'd be a good 20 minute a game guy on any playoff team... as he was this year. he was a smart acquisition by Cleveland last year. watching Jefferson's smart decision-making mangle the Raptors repeatedly through 12 playoff games i was not surprised to see Tyron Lue use Jefferson for 32 and 25 minutes in games 6 and 7 of the NBA Finals this year. | ||
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JimmiC
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Scarecrow
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On June 29 2016 07:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote: he'd be a good 20 minute a game guy on any playoff team... as he was this year. a few games having an impact in a good situation... you're massively overrating the guy | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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 there is more to the game than the offensive #s u parroted. and i referred to 12 games not 6.further, he is also a good defender. he'll be a good 20-minute a game guy on any team. he was good enough for the NBA champs last year. he'll continue to be good. most of the stuff i say here can't be backed by #s. Like Lowry's mismanagement of his injuries. There are no stats for that. you'll just have to take my word for it. On June 29 2016 08:56 Scarecrow wrote: Jefferson is not an important FA, he's been irrelevant for a long time and one playoff burst isn't going to change much, especially at his age. Wouldn't be surprised if he fake-retired just to get some leverage, cause no other team's going to pay him much. I still remember him being fucking awful on the spurs and that was 4 years ago. He'll get a delly contract at best. a few games having an impact in a good situation... you're massively overrating the guy are you saying he was lousy this year? i did not say he was BIll Russell or LBJ. if he is good enough for 25 and 32 minutes in games 6 and 7 between the 2 best teams in the NBA. he'll be good enough for 20 minutes a game next year. if he is healthy the guy is good. Tyron Lue said so.. not with his words.. but with his actions. look for him to play 20+ minutes a game next year if he chooses to come back. do not change or twist what i've said. i did not say he'd be a premier starter carrying a team through the playoffs... so do not claim i'm saying that. i'm not. if my team makes the playoffs in 2017 a guy like RJ is a good role player. On June 29 2016 08:56 Scarecrow wrote: He'll get a delly contract at best. RJ will probably get the same deal as last year or a bit better. i'd like to see the guy cash-in though. On June 29 2016 09:16 JimmiC wrote: I'm not taking your word for anything because clearly you don't know much. i only really follow the Raptors... and so far the few knock-down drag-em-out 50 post debates about the raptors have proven i know the team. i'm not the one who said the raptors are the worst 56 win team ever.... and i stated in 2015 the raptors were merely a slightly above average team when they went 28-13 and everyone was all gah-gah over them....Cleveland//Toronto goes 6 with Lowry healthy etc etc etc. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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did i say he is a premier starter? i said he will be a good 20 minute a game guy. my stance has not changed. his offensive playoff stats in 2016 speak for themselves. the guy was good. if he wasn't Lue would never have had him out there in games 6 and 7. the only thing stopping RJ from having another season like this one is too many drugs and too much partying. if the guy takes care of himself he'll be really good as a playoff role player again. Kudos to Cleveland for picking him up in 2015. On June 29 2016 10:23 JimmiC wrote: And as far as the Raptors go, they are a good but not great team in the weaker conference. Yes they took the Cavs to 6 but they did get humiliated in a couple of the games. They have some promise but they for sure need additions especially at the power forward spot if they wish to compete (and retain DeRozan). i guess the difference is.. i make the comments before the games are played. not after. i've already covered whether or not they are going to retain Derozan. Casey already said so. The picture below proves Thon Maker is 19. This was taken in 2007 when he was 10. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rXH2HIQ.jpg) | ||
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JimmiC
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Xeris
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Djagulingu
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Ace
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The picture below proves Thon Maker is 19. This was taken in 2007 when he was 10. hahahahahahahaha | ||
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Ace
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On June 26 2016 10:13 Xeris wrote: Boogie is dysfunctional, the Kings are also dysfunctional. They each make the other even worse. It's a bad situation and they need to end the experiment. Might as well ship him out East where he can do some damage in the opposite conference. There's nothing dysfunctional about Boogie. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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http://www.spotrac.com/ now that i've had time to mull over Richard Jefferson's situation. the guy has options. if he wants to be the starting small forward for a lousy team he can do that and he'll get paid more to do that. if he wants to be the 6th or 7th man in the rotation of a title contender he can do that as well. he'll get paid less though. the guy has played in 120+ playoff games so he's got a tonne of experience. i've been to 3 playoff games that RJ played in and the guy's decision-making was great. that is not something that diminishes with age. explosiveness can diminish with age... endurance can diminish with age. if RJ comes off the bench a reduction in endurance is a non-issue. in the 3 playoff games i attended RJ and VC put up similar stats. RJ played much better and was a far better defender. i'm sure NBA evaluators see what RJ brings to the table in a playoff series beyond his basic stats and beyond what i could see; That is probably why teams like San Antonio, Golden State and Cleveland keep signing him as he gets further and further beyond his prime. They see what this guy can do beyond the #s in basketball-reference.com any title contender that picks up RJ in order to bring him off their bench during the playoffs is making a smart move. | ||
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