NBA Offseason - Page 28

JJR- "i love all these guys adopting the psycho-mean-angry Bray Wyatt look as a form of intimidation. here is Aron Baynes."
Sounds like you are saying he is growing a beard to intimidate other players. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. It's an assumption.

Response:JC- "I don't think its intimidation I think its the hipster thing. There are so many big mangy beards around now a days, not just in sports but also whenever I hit the public. I'm ok with it, as long as the skinny jeans go away."
A differing personal opinion, and a valid one. In many areas hipsters are abundant and sport similar looks, often with thick rimmed glasses, styled mustaches, and jeans their younger sister used to wear.

Defensive posturing:JJR- "according to studies beards scare males away. that intimidation factor contributes to the beard growing decision for some athletes in all sports, not just basketball. and it happens in any era, not just now. just as 1 example, Lyle Alzado."
This is followed with an article from The Daily Mail, but originally made for The Conversation. Not a source I go to for my scientific articles but hey I'd love to use hte link to read the full results, except it isn't there. Going deeper it's an OK study that leaves out many variables including the cost and technology of shaving over the years and how trends are made. Even if it was a good source/study, why the hell is it being brought up? To confirm your opinion (and that's all it is) is more valid than anothers?

Later you post more confirmation bias with the BBC article, which is actually the same article. the same author originally made for The Conversation.

Then:JJR- "the science says that at the deepest levels males grow beards to intimidate regardless of what their conscious beliefs on the matter might be."
That's not what the study says, the study draws no concrete conclusions and honestly being unable to find the original study to examine any flaws in the methodology, it's more of a sensationalistic article than science.

Then a statement on Lek behavior in which you post a link to Britannica which describes the animal behavior and has no mention of humans and state "according to some prominent social scientists all sports are a form of lek behaviour".

? You described lek behavior but it doesn't tie into your original statement and with no scientific links I don't understand the point of this. Are you moving the goalposts?

Then it devolves back into "you didn't read this", "no, you didn't read this", "you misread me"

And then, to strengthen your position that beards are grown subconsciously to intimidate others, you quote a blog........... A blog with the word philosophy spelled philASIFy. With the word As If clearly inserted into it. Complain about SOMEONE ELSES source, before saying that their position on concussions is wrong.

The goal posts have now been moved, possibly lost, along with your credibility in this discussion.... On NBA players beards...

2 posters believed RJ would not get a raise. i believed he would get a raise. its all there. it also explains in there how LBJ resigning is formality making JR Smith Cavs #1 concern with RJ being #2. Common knowledge LBJ is back at the time i made the ranking of important FAs for the Cavs.

here is ur incorrect projection on RJ
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/510598-nba-offseason?page=5#82

"He was lucky to catch on for the minimum last year and it will be the same thing this year"

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/510598-nba-offseason?page=6#105
"he will not get a raise"

you specified no team. you stated "same thing". that is not what happened. he got a raise and multiyear deal. the other poster projected no raise along with u. i projected a raise and he was important to the Cavs. He re-signed right away during the 1 week moratorium thing. Previous year he signed with Cleveland in August as a late addition and was "lucky to catch on" as you correctly characterized it. He Got a Raise. HeGot a Multi-year deal. He signed early. Hardly the "same thing this year".

this is a welcome change you've been lobbying to have me banned from every thread for years. i guess the denial, anger, bargaining and depression stages are over and after 4 years and you've finally hit the acceptance stage.