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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 12 2016 14:08 GMT
#501
The problem with "experts" is you can pay them to lie to you.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 12 2016 14:19 GMT
#502
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 19:10:34
September 23 2016 19:03 GMT
#503
welp, i guess things will start to get interesting now.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17619057/miami-heat-clear-chris-bosh-return-failed-physical

i wonder if the Heat found a lab that gives them the test results they want?

if Bosh plays 10 or more games this year then his salary counts towards the 2017-18 cap.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 23 2016 20:02 GMT
#504
No doctor should clear him. If he is taking blood thinners a concussion could kill him. If he's not taking blood thinners he can have a stroke on the court.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 21:50:10
September 23 2016 21:46 GMT
#505
that kind of generalization may have been true 10+ years ago. it is no longer that simple. Tomas Fleischmann played in the NHL while taking blood thinners that cleared from his system by the time practices and games started. Fleischmann even played in the high altitude city of Denver with no problems. There is more physical contact in the NHL than in the NBA.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/more-hockey-players-being-diagnosed-with-blood-clots-than-ever-1.2976686

blood clots need to be treated on a case-by-case basis. some athletes can play for years with the risk of blood clots.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 15:48:01
September 26 2016 15:41 GMT
#506
Bosh is gone. I guess its time for the Heat to cash-in on their 2 first round picks in 2017 and 2018.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17642995/chris-bosh-career-miami-heat-likely-pat-riley-says

from a salary cap perspective the Heat can remove Bosh's salary from taking up any cap space if Bosh does not return to the NBA until March.

this is a good move by the Heat. This crap about how much Spoelstra loves Bosh and his family is a bunch of BS.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
September 28 2016 05:05 GMT
#507
Spo has seen someone die on the court, it's hardly BS. Of course it's a good basketball decision as well.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 09:46:48
September 28 2016 08:31 GMT
#508
the death red herring has already been exposed on pages 25 and 26 of this thread.

Shortly after the news broke that Bosh was done... Bosh thanked "Miami" but did not thank the "Miami Heat".

the most likely scenario is not death. none of the elite athletes using blood thinners has died.

the most likely scenario is this: Bosh goes on a cycled blood thinning protocol and this allows him to play 10 or 20 or 30 games. Then he has complications that show up on his blood tests and he has to quit like Pascal Dupuis had to quit. Meanwhile, Miami is on the hook for another year of salary on their cap. Also, they have a good part of their offensive scheme revolving around a guy who can't play half the year and in the playoffs.

Miami is trying to avoid all this so they are just claiming its medically impossible for him to play. When really... its only improbable its not impossible. Its been done before at an elite level many times dating back to the 1980s with much more primitive protocols and testing than hematologists have at their disposal now.

This is Pat "by any means necessary" Riley at work. Spoelstra is just following the Riley agenda by "loving" BOsh and his 5 kids as they tell him to GTFO.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 14:32:42
September 28 2016 14:30 GMT
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
September 28 2016 15:13 GMT
#510
On September 28 2016 23:30 JimmiC wrote:
It could be that way. But treating your assumptions as facts is one of the reasons you are the worlds most annoying poster.


there are zero assumptions its all backed up by the sources i've proviided and some logic.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 28 2016 15:37 GMT
#511
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 16:53:26
September 28 2016 15:58 GMT
#512
yep, which is why i posted this conclusion 4 days ago.
On September 24 2016 06:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
blood clots need to be treated on a case-by-case basis. some athletes can play for years with the risk of blood clots.


i never commented on Bosh's case specifically, however, i provided a rebuttal to an incorrect generalization about how blood clots must be dealt with in 2016.

the Miami Heat are pushing an overly simplified view in order to forward their agenda. The science is constantly evolving. Miami did a nice job of covering their asses by saying Bosh won`t play for them. The Miami Heat did not say Bosh will never play in the NBA again. Its a very good stance and a very carefully thought out position they`ve taken. Riley is good.

Bosh is not in the same situation as a guy like Dennis Boyd or that Soccer player guy currently playing on blood thinners. These guys only play 1 or 2 times per week. He needs to be able to play 4 times a week and so far only a couple of NHL-ers have pulled that off long term. Most NHL-ers have short term success and fail long term and retire. They don't die because they are being so closely monitored with emergency medical staff on site.

The low probability of success combined with constant uncertainty is enough for Riley to pull the plug on the Bosh comeback project. I'd do the exact same thing.

Its been fun to watch the NBA, NBAPA, Riley and Bosh go at it these last few months. If you want to get angry/annoyed about it... have fun. me? I`m getting more popcorn and preparing for the next episode.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 28 2016 17:50 GMT
#513
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 18:46:54
September 28 2016 18:42 GMT
#514
also regarding whatshisface's "love" for Bosh and his 5 kids. any emotion is not provable. so the guy yammers on about how much he "loves" Bosh and his family as they cut him. the management person closest to the employee is the "nice guy" and the company Prez is the "dick faced total prick" who is making the decisions. while the "nice guy" can keep saying.. "hey man .. not my call .. i luv you like a brother, brother". that's why its BS.

On September 29 2016 02:50 JimmiC wrote:
Yes you posted that and I didn't respond because it wasn't wrong. What you posted next was so I did respond. Interesting how that works.

I'm not at all annoyed at the situation the annoying part is you. This last post is far better then the one I commented on because you are not drawing as concrete conclusions as you were in the previous post.


i never drew any conclusions.. its all probabilities. if you want to half-read my stuff have fun.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 29 2016 00:37 GMT
#515
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-29 02:44:13
September 29 2016 02:32 GMT
#516
have fun arguing with urself. i'll stick to discussing the NBA in the NBA thread.

Bosh just fired his long time agent Henry Thomas of CAA
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/09/28/report-chris-bosh-fires-agent/

so is Bosh a free agent? do the Heat have to waive him? what now? can Bosh go play in Europe? i wonder if Bosh thinks his agent is really a double-agent and gave the Heat too much info. or maybe Thomas is advising Bosh to retire and Bosh doesn't want to hear it.

EDIT: Bosh can become a free agent February 9th... the Heat will waive him through the league and he is officially a free agent at that point.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 29 2016 04:25 GMT
#517
idk what we're arguing about but let's chill, Bosh is a very unique case, my guess is he won't step on an NBA court again.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 29 2016 15:35 GMT
#518
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17706 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 03:19:08
September 30 2016 03:00 GMT
#519
are there any photos of Spoelstra smiling with Bosh's family? has Spoelstra even met his kids? has Bosh ever made a public comment thanking Spoelstra for his support? like ever? if so... produce the evidence. i base my views on evidence not some mouthpiece yapping into a microphone. any how, i can change my view with some evidence and maybe there is some genuine real human goodwill between the 2.

Short of any real evidence backing up Spoelstra's proclamations of love: Spoelstra "loves" Bosh about as Jerry Maguire "loves" that college QB ( Kushman?) in the Jerry Maguire movie. Its just BS to grease the skids on Bosh's exit so other players and free agents won't get mad at the Heat.

now , onto head injuries.

ya, so Brad Beal has his 2nd concussion in 9 months and every media outlet every where is calling it a "mild concussion".

with all that's been discussed about head injuries you'd figure people would not throw around the term "mild concussion". its a BS term. its a concussion. full stop. If Beal has another concussion in 2016 I'd be concerned about the viability of his career. 3 concussions in 1 year is a recipe for disaster. Washington should seriously consider giving Beal the first 40 games off.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2016/09/29/bradley-beal-held-out-of-wizards-training-camp-practice-with-a-mild-concussion/

On September 29 2016 13:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
idk what we're arguing about but let's chill, Bosh is a very unique case, my guess is he won't step on an NBA court again.


what i wonder is .. at this point today.. after the Heat physical and whatever it uncovered...
is he on blood thinners for only 12 hours a day while playing/practising ball 2 hours a day? if he is and not developing complications he's got a shot at playing again. if he is on blood thinners almost all the time and practising basketball once every 2 weeks he is fooling himself.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 30 2016 03:46 GMT
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