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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 30 2016 04:18 GMT
#521
Is it bad that I'm most excited to see if the 76ers relinquish thier throne at the bottom of the league?
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 05:31:32
September 30 2016 04:38 GMT
#522
On September 30 2016 13:18 cLutZ wrote:
Is it bad that I'm most excited to see if the 76ers relinquish thier throne at the bottom of the league?

imo, Colangelo is an average GM who is really good at making the execs above him think he is a genius. i think the 76ers will eventually rise to become an average team. maybe somewhat above average if their #1 pick ends up being really good. he will, however, be surrounded by an average team.


On September 30 2016 12:46 JimmiC wrote:
Hey if you can't make the heat out to be evil might as well attack the media they are easy target!

logical fallacy: appeal to motive
On September 30 2016 12:46 JimmiC wrote:
Also, they say mild concussion because its a medical term depending on the grade of concussion. https://biau.org/types-and-levels-of-brain-injury/

your source proves my point. the term mild concussion is never used. according to the CDC you either have a concussion or you don't have a concussion.

getting back to the NBA here. are you therefore claiming Beal has not much to worry about because he merely has a "mild concussion" ? or are you just going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the NBA?

On September 30 2016 12:46 JimmiC wrote:
YOU not knowing if he has met his kids.

you can't prove a negative. the burden of proof rests with the claimant. EX: you robbed a bank. prove you didn't.

If you want to advance the conversation in any meaningful way show some evidence that Spoelstra loves Bosh and his family. if there is some real evidence i'll alter my view. i can't "prove" zero photos exist of Spoelstra smiling with Bosh's family at some family event. i can't prove Bosh has never thanked Spo for his support. Just like you can't "prove" you've never robbed a bank. I can say I've never heard Bosh thank Spoelstra for his support and i've never heard of Bosh's family hanging out with Spoelstra. I can say i highly doubt you've robbed a bank, but i can't prove the negative. i can't prove you never robbed a bank.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 30 2016 11:58 GMT
#523
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 14:32:48
September 30 2016 13:58 GMT
#524
I'll bet you a coach or sports guy said "mild concussion" when discussing Beal's injury status. And the journalist just parroted the term in their article. none of this discussion changes my original comments about the dangers Beal faces if he suffers another concussion this year.
On September 30 2016 20:58 JimmiC wrote:
If you really know this little about concussions maybe you shouldn't go on long rants about them.
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/concussion-traumatic-brain-injury-symptoms-causes-treatments

it was ~30 words. a "long rant" is not ~30 words. its your own source that splits those hairs. furthermore, its only hair splitting if you think the terms "traumatic brain injury" and "concussion" are interchangeable. They are not. You should try reading the stuff you provide as a source.

WebMD is not an independent information source and is filled with direct to consumer ads. turn off ad-block and see for yourself.
https://theskepticalcardiologist.com/2016/02/07/webmd-purveyor-of-bad-health-information-and-snake-oil/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion
A concussion is a type of traumatic brain injury. Sports guys don't like saying "traumatic brain injury" because it sounds really bad. Instead they use the term "concussion" because it sounds less ominous. Then these same sports guys hear the phrase "mild traumatic brain injury" and they put together the 2 words that sound as soothing as possible. Hence we get the sports term "mild concussion". if they wanted to be accurate they should say "mild traumatic brain injury". They don't want to be accurate. They want the athlete back playing ASAP while providing some quality PR to calm down the people who watched a disoriented athlete stagger around or go unconscious.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 30 2016 14:32 GMT
#525
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
September 30 2016 15:46 GMT
#526
Not knowing Bosh's other relative medical information, it's impossible to know who's in the right here (Bosh/Reilly). Other athletes have played their sport with similar issues, but they didn't lead the same life Bosh has, Bosh didn't lead theirs, their conditions and situations are always going to be different.

Bosh has several things that may be affecting his health on top of his condition. That includes: being very tall, being african american, sitting for long trips for his job, being an athlete at a very high level. All these things and more that we probably don't know are going to impact him uniquely in ways that only a specialist is able to determine his outlook.

I also find it hard to believe that watching a player collapse and die in front of you like spoelstra did wouldn't affect how you treat this situation or the little input you have towards it. But that's just my opinion.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 22:16:32
September 30 2016 22:01 GMT
#527
looks like we're getting down to nut-cutting time in the JR Smith/Cavaliers negotiations.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/09/30/lebron-james-on-cavaliers-negotiations-i-just-hate-to-deal-with-this-s-again-j-r-smith-did-his-part/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

from the ESPN article on the same topic
"The only teams with significant cap space remaining -- the 76ers, Nuggets, Nets, Suns and Jazz -- are either in rebuilding mode or already stocked at his position."
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13007 Posts
September 30 2016 23:18 GMT
#528
Dammit, Simmons broke his foot =/
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 30 2016 23:44 GMT
#529
not a huge deal, will only miss a week or two, unless this turns into Embiid again.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-01 00:46:15
October 01 2016 00:17 GMT
#530
On October 01 2016 08:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
not a huge deal, will only miss a week or two, unless this turns into Embiid again.

a week or 2 for a broken foot? i guess the coach diagnosed it as a "mild" broken foot. so its ok.

i love all these guys adopting the psycho-mean-angry Bray Wyatt look as a form of intimidation. here is Aron Baynes.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-01 00:46:00
October 01 2016 00:44 GMT
#531
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-01 01:07:16
October 01 2016 00:58 GMT
#532
according to studies beards scare males away. that intimidation factor contributes to the beard growing decision for some athletes in all sports, not just basketball. and it happens in any era, not just now. just as 1 example, Lyle Alzado.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3552713/The-REAL-reason-men-grow-beards-Scientists-reveal-facial-hair-helps-make-appear-dominant.html

i feel like this thread is becoming a 21st century edition of SNL's Point-Counterpoint.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 01 2016 01:16 GMT
#533
it's a metatarsal break, don't know much about it or anything more but I've always recalled it healing with 2-3 months for soccer players.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-01 01:24:51
October 01 2016 01:22 GMT
#534
i think the 5th metatarsal is the most common break in the foot for NBA players.

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 01 2016 21:11 GMT
#535
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 01 2016 21:52 GMT
#536
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 01 2016 21:54 GMT
#537
Seems pretty ridiculous that they were okay with his gaining 30 lbs or something during the summer when his body is still developing and that no human should willfully gain that much weight in such a short amount of time period.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-01 23:36:13
October 01 2016 22:59 GMT
#538
On October 02 2016 06:52 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2016 09:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
according to studies beards scare males away. that intimidation factor contributes to the beard growing decision for some athletes in all sports, not just basketball. and it happens in any era, not just now. just as 1 example, Lyle Alzado.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3552713/The-REAL-reason-men-grow-beards-Scientists-reveal-facial-hair-helps-make-appear-dominant.html

i feel like this thread is becoming a 21st century edition of SNL's Point-Counterpoint.



Because you constantly say your assumptions as facts and its funny to point out. Sure he could want to intimidate people but that exact look is the one that comes up when u google hipster haircut and beard. It is stupid to claim he's doing for intimidation when it's the current popular style. He could be doing it for that, or he could be doing it for style. Style is far more likely but acting like it is a fact that he's doing it for intimidation because there is not well known scientific link to that is classic jimmyj "I think it so it is so" logic.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=hipster haircut and beard&biw=1366&bih=662&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwj80qf6yrrPAhWq54MKHTYxBWsQ_AUIBigB


ya, for centuries men have been doing this. that is why it has appeared in many male sports for decades. on the surface it might seem its for fashion. the underlying reasons, the most primal reasons, the subconscious reasons are outlined in my source. dozens of studies have been done on this.. so give it up.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160418-the-real-reason-men-grow-beards

"a number of studies have suggested that both men and women perceive men with beards as older, stronger and more aggressive than others. And dominant men can get more mating opportunities by intimidating rivals to stand aside."

On October 02 2016 06:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Seems pretty ridiculous that they were okay with his gaining 30 lbs or something during the summer when his body is still developing and that no human should willfully gain that much weight in such a short amount of time period.

if he grew 0 inches in height and gained 30 pounds in less than one year they are inviting injury. didn't he have leg cramps in summer league and a host of other small problems leading up to this broken foot?

Can't wait for Colangelo's silver tongued spin on this...
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 01 2016 23:46 GMT
#539
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-02 00:21:53
October 02 2016 00:12 GMT
#540
On October 02 2016 08:46 JimmiC wrote:
How you read this to mean every guy who grows a beard is 100% doing it to be more dominate is as amazing as

let's go back to my original sentence. re-read that.
"i love all these guys adopting the psycho-mean-angry Bray Wyatt look as a form of intimidation."

"all these guys"
therefore, if u r doing it for some other conscious reason you're not included in my comment. i'm zeroing in on the subset of guys doing it as a form of intimidation.

that said, the science says that at the deepest levels males grow beards to intimidate regardless of what their conscious beliefs on the matter might be.
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