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cLutZ
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JimmyJRaynor
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On September 30 2016 13:18 cLutZ wrote: Is it bad that I'm most excited to see if the 76ers relinquish thier throne at the bottom of the league? imo, Colangelo is an average GM who is really good at making the execs above him think he is a genius. i think the 76ers will eventually rise to become an average team. maybe somewhat above average if their #1 pick ends up being really good. he will, however, be surrounded by an average team. On September 30 2016 12:46 JimmiC wrote: Hey if you can't make the heat out to be evil might as well attack the media they are easy target! logical fallacy: appeal to motive On September 30 2016 12:46 JimmiC wrote: Also, they say mild concussion because its a medical term depending on the grade of concussion. https://biau.org/types-and-levels-of-brain-injury/ your source proves my point. the term mild concussion is never used. according to the CDC you either have a concussion or you don't have a concussion. getting back to the NBA here. are you therefore claiming Beal has not much to worry about because he merely has a "mild concussion" ? or are you just going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the NBA? On September 30 2016 12:46 JimmiC wrote: YOU not knowing if he has met his kids. you can't prove a negative. the burden of proof rests with the claimant. EX: you robbed a bank. prove you didn't. If you want to advance the conversation in any meaningful way show some evidence that Spoelstra loves Bosh and his family. if there is some real evidence i'll alter my view. i can't "prove" zero photos exist of Spoelstra smiling with Bosh's family at some family event. i can't prove Bosh has never thanked Spo for his support. Just like you can't "prove" you've never robbed a bank. I can say I've never heard Bosh thank Spoelstra for his support and i've never heard of Bosh's family hanging out with Spoelstra. I can say i highly doubt you've robbed a bank, but i can't prove the negative. i can't prove you never robbed a bank. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
On September 30 2016 13:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote: imo, Colangelo is an average GM who is really good at making the execs above him think he is a genius. i think the 76ers will eventually rise to become an average team. maybe somewhat above average if their #1 pick ends up being really good. he will, however, be surrounded by an average team. logical fallacy: appeal to motive your source proves my point. the term mild concussion is never used. according to the CDC you either have a concussion or you don't have a concussion. getting back to the NBA here. are you therefore claiming Beal has not much to worry about because he merely has a "mild concussion" ? or are you just going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the NBA? you can't prove a negative. the burden of proof rests with the claimant. EX: you robbed a bank. prove you didn't. If you want to advance the conversation in any meaningful way show some evidence that Spoelstra loves Bosh and his family. if there is some real evidence i'll alter my view. i can't "prove" zero photos exist of Spoelstra smiling with Bosh's family at some family event. i can't prove Bosh has never thanked Spo for his support. Just like you can't "prove" you've never robbed a bank. I can say I've never heard Bosh thank Spoelstra for his support and i've never heard of Bosh's family hanging out with Spoelstra. I can say i highly doubt you've robbed a bank, but i can't prove the negative. i can't prove you never robbed a bank. It's funny the level you will go to try to prove your assumption is a fact and your reading comprehension is utter shit. As I've said all along you have no clue what Spoelstra thinks or what's in his his heaet, it is not up to me to prove or up to you. It's a stupid thing to assume. I never once said he loved him or not simply that I'm not dumb or arrogant enough to assume. Also your really splitting hairs if you think calling a "mild taumatic brain injury" a mild concussion is wrong. Here is link where they describe it exactly as mild, moderate or severe and explain that a concussion is the most common of traumatic brain injuries. If you really know this little about concussions maybe you shouldn't go on long rants about them. http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/concussion-traumatic-brain-injury-symptoms-causes-treatments You do seam to have a decent understanding of logical fallacies might be worth applying that knowledge to your own posts. Would make them far better. That being said less hilarius so keep being you! I think the 76rs will be better this year since they will not activly be trying to suck. If they can get value from one of there 3 bigs that will also help. I think they will still be bad this year but not a utter embarrassment. I think the Knicks will be interesting to watch, so much injury prone talent. I think they could finish top 4 in east or dead last! | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15576 Posts
On September 30 2016 20:58 JimmiC wrote: If you really know this little about concussions maybe you shouldn't go on long rants about them. http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/concussion-traumatic-brain-injury-symptoms-causes-treatments it was ~30 words. a "long rant" is not ~30 words. its your own source that splits those hairs. furthermore, its only hair splitting if you think the terms "traumatic brain injury" and "concussion" are interchangeable. They are not. You should try reading the stuff you provide as a source. WebMD is not an independent information source and is filled with direct to consumer ads. turn off ad-block and see for yourself. https://theskepticalcardiologist.com/2016/02/07/webmd-purveyor-of-bad-health-information-and-snake-oil/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion A concussion is a type of traumatic brain injury. Sports guys don't like saying "traumatic brain injury" because it sounds really bad. Instead they use the term "concussion" because it sounds less ominous. Then these same sports guys hear the phrase "mild traumatic brain injury" and they put together the 2 words that sound as soothing as possible. Hence we get the sports term "mild concussion". if they wanted to be accurate they should say "mild traumatic brain injury". They don't want to be accurate. They want the athlete back playing ASAP while providing some quality PR to calm down the people who watched a disoriented athlete stagger around or go unconscious. | ||
JimmiC
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giftdgecko
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Bosh has several things that may be affecting his health on top of his condition. That includes: being very tall, being african american, sitting for long trips for his job, being an athlete at a very high level. All these things and more that we probably don't know are going to impact him uniquely in ways that only a specialist is able to determine his outlook. I also find it hard to believe that watching a player collapse and die in front of you like spoelstra did wouldn't affect how you treat this situation or the little input you have towards it. But that's just my opinion. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15576 Posts
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/09/30/lebron-james-on-cavaliers-negotiations-i-just-hate-to-deal-with-this-s-again-j-r-smith-did-his-part/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter from the ESPN article on the same topic "The only teams with significant cap space remaining -- the 76ers, Nuggets, Nets, Suns and Jazz -- are either in rebuilding mode or already stocked at his position." | ||
RowdierBob
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zulu_nation8
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JimmyJRaynor
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On October 01 2016 08:44 zulu_nation8 wrote: not a huge deal, will only miss a week or two, unless this turns into Embiid again. a week or 2 for a broken foot? i guess the coach diagnosed it as a "mild" broken foot. so its ok. i love all these guys adopting the psycho-mean-angry Bray Wyatt look as a form of intimidation. here is Aron Baynes. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
I don't think its intimidation I think its the hipster thing. There are so many big mangy beards around now a days, not just in sports but also whenever I hit the public. I'm ok with it, as long as the skinny jeans go away. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15576 Posts
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3552713/The-REAL-reason-men-grow-beards-Scientists-reveal-facial-hair-helps-make-appear-dominant.html i feel like this thread is becoming a 21st century edition of SNL's Point-Counterpoint. | ||
zulu_nation8
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JimmyJRaynor
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JimmiC
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JimmiC
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On October 01 2016 09:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote: according to studies beards scare males away. that intimidation factor contributes to the beard growing decision for some athletes in all sports, not just basketball. and it happens in any era, not just now. just as 1 example, Lyle Alzado. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3552713/The-REAL-reason-men-grow-beards-Scientists-reveal-facial-hair-helps-make-appear-dominant.html i feel like this thread is becoming a 21st century edition of SNL's Point-Counterpoint. Because you constantly say your assumptions as facts and its funny to point out. Sure he could want to intimidate people but that exact look is the one that comes up when u google hipster haircut and beard. It is stupid to claim he's doing for intimidation when it's the current popular style. He could be doing it for that, or he could be doing it for style. Style is far more likely but acting like it is a fact that he's doing it for intimidation because there is not well known scientific link to that is classic jimmyj "I think it so it is so" logic. https://www.google.ca/search?q=hipster haircut and beard&biw=1366&bih=662&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwj80qf6yrrPAhWq54MKHTYxBWsQ_AUIBigB | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
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On October 02 2016 06:52 JimmiC wrote: Because you constantly say your assumptions as facts and its funny to point out. Sure he could want to intimidate people but that exact look is the one that comes up when u google hipster haircut and beard. It is stupid to claim he's doing for intimidation when it's the current popular style. He could be doing it for that, or he could be doing it for style. Style is far more likely but acting like it is a fact that he's doing it for intimidation because there is not well known scientific link to that is classic jimmyj "I think it so it is so" logic. https://www.google.ca/search?q=hipster haircut and beard&biw=1366&bih=662&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwj80qf6yrrPAhWq54MKHTYxBWsQ_AUIBigB ya, for centuries men have been doing this. that is why it has appeared in many male sports for decades. on the surface it might seem its for fashion. the underlying reasons, the most primal reasons, the subconscious reasons are outlined in my source. dozens of studies have been done on this.. so give it up. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160418-the-real-reason-men-grow-beards "a number of studies have suggested that both men and women perceive men with beards as older, stronger and more aggressive than others. And dominant men can get more mating opportunities by intimidating rivals to stand aside." On October 02 2016 06:54 zulu_nation8 wrote: Seems pretty ridiculous that they were okay with his gaining 30 lbs or something during the summer when his body is still developing and that no human should willfully gain that much weight in such a short amount of time period. if he grew 0 inches in height and gained 30 pounds in less than one year they are inviting injury. didn't he have leg cramps in summer league and a host of other small problems leading up to this broken foot? Can't wait for Colangelo's silver tongued spin on this... | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
Quotes from your most recent article: The first paragraph "What is the point of a beard, evolutionarily speaking? Children, women, and a whole bunch of men manage just fine without one. But take a walk down some streets these days and you’ll be confronted with all sizes and shapes of groomed (and less groomed) facial hair – from designer stubble to waxed moustaches and hipster beards." Second paragraph and thesis "When we see men paying attention to their appearance, it’s easy to assume that they’re just angling for partners. But our research on beards and voices shows that beards probably evolved at least partly to help men boost their standing among other men." The article goes on to say that having a deeper voice also makes some one seam more dominant. Then it finishes with "But the point is that, whether it’s facial hair or something else, we often see this pattern of competing requirements leading to differences in appearances. Think you can please everyone all of the time? You can’t." How you read this to mean every guy who grows a beard is 100% doing it to be more dominate is as amazing as how you read that article about Jefferson to mean that he was their most important player. Either you don't read more then the title, or you have 0 reading comprehension. Either way keep being you its HILARIOUS!! | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15576 Posts
On October 02 2016 08:46 JimmiC wrote: How you read this to mean every guy who grows a beard is 100% doing it to be more dominate is as amazing as let's go back to my original sentence. re-read that. "i love all these guys adopting the psycho-mean-angry Bray Wyatt look as a form of intimidation." "all these guys" therefore, if u r doing it for some other conscious reason you're not included in my comment. i'm zeroing in on the subset of guys doing it as a form of intimidation. that said, the science says that at the deepest levels males grow beards to intimidate regardless of what their conscious beliefs on the matter might be. | ||
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