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Scarecrow
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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Is Dwight Howard looking for a raise in pay? or is he just trying to get into a better situation that pays similar money? | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
No one has befuddled Popovich like Jefferson. The Spurs are dumbfounded about how to reach him, how to use him, how to get him to play fluid, mistake-free basketball." From Yahoo Sports. This was when he was getting 14 mill a year... So stop bringing up the Spurs, he was a mistake. Also you keep mentioning the warriors but they weren't a contender either when they picked him up, neither were the other teams like Utah and Dallas that had him for a year each before he joined the cavs. So it's really only the cavs who saw something in him, like decent value and a good fit with their roster. If he was so valuable why did he spend time on 4 teams in 4 years as his bloated contract got handed around, before finally ending up on the minimum in dallas? The answer: noone was that interested in keeping him, and once his bad contract ended noone was rushing to pick him up, even at the minimum. Lue also had limited options and went with the best he had, it's not like they're spoiled for choice in that position. If Lebron is at PF who the hell do you play instead of jefferson? Dahntay Jones? RJ's a cheap 3 & d vet who doesn't do much else and is something like the cavs 10th best player. He just wants to end his career chasing rings rather than being garbage on a tanker. He's decent for 1 mill but nowhere near as important as you're making out, otherwise he wouldn't have ended up in Dallas 2 seasons ago playing for nothing. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 01 2016 00:37 Scarecrow wrote: No one has befuddled Popovich like Jefferson. The Spurs are dumbfounded about how to reach him, how to use him, how to get him to play fluid, mistake-free basketball." RJ was re-inventing his game during a transition period. When you change a lot you get worse for a time before you get better. ...56 minutes in games 6 and 7 of the finals... as long as guys like Vince Carter and Terrence Ross get the minutes they get on playoff teams there will be place for RJ on a playoff basketball team. RJ is not a long term solution for any team. He is a short team contributor to a team looking to shore up their bench. And, if he wants he can try and be a starter on a weak team. If he cashes in .. all the more power to him. in the 2017 playoffs i'd take RJ over Terrence Ross every day. He is flat out, end of story a better basketball player than Ross. Keep in mind Ross greatly improved as a defender over the past year. Maybe in 3 years Ross will be a better player. Maybe. RJ was a better player than VC 10 years ago and he is still better today. I guess that's why VC's #1 playoff memory is a graduation ceremony at UNC and RJ has 126 playoff games to his name. I'm too lazy to go through the 6 through 8 rotation players on every team in the NBA. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sLxRUYW.jpg) any how, regarding the impending free agent feeding frenzy. supposedly this cap tracker chart will be updated in real time... http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/ July 7 will be a good test of their "real time updating".  renounce at 12:01 and sign a free agent at 12:02? | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 01 2016 02:37 JimmiC wrote: He never murdered anyone in the playoffs in the last 10 years. every game i go to he eats the raptors for lunch... including the 2007 playoffs. 56 minutes squelching the offense of a 73-9 team is more than a "mildly useful bench player". here is a good article written about RJ before game 6 of the finals. http://www.sbnation.com/2016/6/16/11951890/richard-jefferson-cavaliers-highlights-stats-nba-finals-2016 | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 01 2016 02:37 JimmiC wrote: He never murdered anyone in the playoffs in the last 10 years. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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my stance has not changed. Lue was smart to play RJ for 56 minutes in games 6 and 7 of the Finals and RJ will be a good addition to any playoff team next year. have fun twisting and turning it into whatever you like... you can twist perception.. reality won't budge. | ||
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JimmiC
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Djagulingu
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1- Richard Fucking Jefferson 2- Exactly how old a certain rookie is 3- Only a handful of other posts involving trades and shit. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On July 01 2016 02:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote: you can twist perception.. reality won't budge. So when I talk about his irrelevance for the last 5 years it's 'twisting perception' and his play in 2 playoff games is 'reality'. I should remember to not dispute Jimmy's opinion aka 'reality'. I guess I'm also 'twisting perception' when I mention RJ was a -8 in game 7 (though he was better in game 6) and scored 5 points TOTAL in 56 minutes. What an important piece! He's simply not a good enough defender to justify that output. Besides he's far from the first bench player to impact a series for a few games (and it wasn't even significant). Anyway, you're delusional if you think you win arguments on here through anything other than stubborn attrition. WP. edit: oh a quote from that article you linked to support your RJ argument "On the rare occasion in which Jefferson looks like a poor man's Iguodala, it's only because the ineptitude of some of his teammates makes him shine. He's not late-career Grant Hill. This is not a new beginning. Far from it." looool | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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this all started with me asking if Cleveland will retain RJ after reading the GM wants to "keep this group together". Unfortunately, not much content was directed towards that question. i think how RJ was used by the coaching staff of the NBA champions speaks to his value as a player far more than anything i can't put in a forum post. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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after doing a bit of digging i think signing JR Smith is Cleveland's #1 priority and signing RJ is their #2 priority. furthermore, i've discussed many issues in my last 10 posts and all you want to do is talk about me and RJ. I've done my research and i have a pretty good idea of what Cleveland's priorities are headed into the free agent period. On July 01 2016 09:58 JimmiC wrote: Actually I did answer it. Maybe a 1 year minimum and I've said it numerous times. For some reason this enraged you, intill later you said same as last contact, which was in fact a 1 year minimum. Maybe you contest and what you read or write? great rebuttal thx for your input in this question. u outlined his common popular stats very nicely.i think he re-signs with Cleveland. | ||
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