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JimmiC
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andrewlt
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On July 01 2016 15:06 Jibba wrote: I actually understand the Lakers wanting Mozgov for the 2017 and 2018. They need someone to play center and they have to sign some guys to hit the cap floor, plus the upcoming CBA/cap raise will make $16M seem fine. But I don't understand Mozgov for the 2019 or 2020 Lakers, unless you think he's going to improve or offer some veteran presence. What it really shows is that the Lakers have no advantage with FAs anymore. They can't even get interviews with B+ guys like Whiteside, and they've got little confidence that they can land a B- guy like Biyombo. I just don't understand... nobody else was gunning for Mozgov; giving him 16/year is stupid for 4 years. If they were just trying to reach the floor this year b/c they knew they were striking out on most FA's, they should have just offered him like a 1 year deal at 20 million or something stupid. If they wanted him at 4 years; they could have probably gotten him for ~12/year which would have been pretty reasonable in light of the ridiculous cap. I have no clue what's going on with the Lakers. Hell, they could have just re-signed Hibbert at ~12-13/year and that would've been better. Hibbert is also a good locker room dude, so he's got that going for him. On the flip side; snagging Clarkson at 4/50 is insanely good work. | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
On July 02 2016 02:24 Xeris wrote: I just don't understand... nobody else was gunning for Mozgov; giving him 16/year is stupid for 4 years. If they were just trying to reach the floor this year b/c they knew they were striking out on most FA's, they should have just offered him like a 1 year deal at 20 million or something stupid. If they wanted him at 4 years; they could have probably gotten him for ~12/year which would have been pretty reasonable in light of the ridiculous cap. I have no clue what's going on with the Lakers. Hell, they could have just re-signed Hibbert at ~12-13/year and that would've been better. Hibbert is also a good locker room dude, so he's got that going for him. On the flip side; snagging Clarkson at 4/50 is insanely good work. Mostly agree with what you said. Ever since Dwight and Pau left, there have been very few things appealing about LA to free agents.. I'm pretty sad about the inflated cap room that is making mozgov 16/year for 4 years....3mil more a year was Pau, and I don't think Mozgov is worth nearly that kind of money. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
The Cleveland Cavaliers have lost more basketball players than the Cleveland Indians have lost baseball games since the Cavs won the NBA title. Cleveland... city of champions. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
- Parsons to Memphis (kinda expected) - Delly to Bucks (expected) - Al Jefferson to Pacers (nice) | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 02 2016 06:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Lebron congratulated Dellavedova via twitter so i guess he will sign with the Bucks. gratz to him he deserves to be in a situation that gives him more playing time. this development sort of lines up with my belief that JR Smith and RJ are the Cavs top priorities. (and of course they are going to resign LBJ) The Cleveland Cavaliers have lost more basketball players than the Cleveland Indians have lost baseball games since the Cavs won the NBA title. Cleveland... city of champions. Well, Delly is a Restricted Free Agent, so he's getting at least $38 million, one way or the other. The guy was making just over $1 mil per season, so he just got himself a pretty huge pay increase. (Not Whiteside levels, but more than enough to be set for life.) But it's unlikely Cleveland matches, even though that's about the right price for the guy. He's a solid back-up PG that'll give you a strong 25-minutes per game. That's worth 10% of your total cap space. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-suspends-bucks-o-j-mayo-two-years-for-violating-anti-drug-program/ | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On July 02 2016 06:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote: this development sort of lines up with my belief that JR Smith and RJ are the Cavs top priorities. So the cavs deciding to not match a massive pay rise on delly's contract means RJ's more of a priority? Man you're desperate. If RJ by some miracle gets an offer with a pay increase anywhere near Delly's there's 0 chance the cavs match. | ||
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JimmiC
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icystorage
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
I'm not sure if the Big O realized that he went from "didn't get a single first place vote" to "everyone who didn't vote for Lebron first (which is everyone) should be kicked out . | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
On July 02 2016 10:11 Scarecrow wrote: So the cavs deciding to not match a massive pay rise on delly's contract means RJ's more of a priority? Man you're desperate. If RJ by some miracle gets an offer with a pay increase anywhere near Delly's there's 0 chance the cavs match. during last year's magical playoff run.. did Delly even shoot 35%? LOL did he shoot 35% this year? Re: the bucks. OJ Mayo just got suspended. Greivis Vasquez is prolly gone. The 33-win Bucks have to spend money to hit the salary floor of $85 million. if the new salary floor of $85 million this year and around $100 million next year has helped a career bench player like MD earn a bit more cash playing for a 33 win team... great. the world champions are focused on winning playoff games in 2017 and repeating as champions. they are not focused on hitting the salary floor and filling out their roster with players who may or may not develop into somewhat better players. the world champs are focused on now. MD is a priority to the Cavs to the extent of his minutes granted by Lue in the playoffs. He is not useless. However, both JR Smith and Richard Jefferson are more important. JRS > RJ > MD according to their playoff minutes. Furthermore, RJ is not the be-all and end-all of players. He also is a priority to the extent of his usefulness the playoffs. JR Smith is more important than Jefferson. I can't blame Lue for not using MD because the guy can't hit the side of a barn door with his 3 point shot; u gotta spread the floor in the playoffs with as many 3 point threats as possible... and MD just can't hit 3s. Cleveland is going for a championship next year and the 33 win Bucks are not. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On July 02 2016 11:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote: during last year's magical playoff run.. did Delly even shoot 35%? LOL did he shoot 35% this year? I can't blame Lue for not using MD because the guy can't hit the side of a barn door with his 3 point shot; u gotta spread the floor in the playoffs with as many 3 point threats as possible... and MD just can't hit 3s. Delly rolled his ankle vs the raps and clearly wasnt 100%. The cavs not matching a massive raise also says very little about their priorities, regardless of how much you try to spin it. It means even less when you consider keeping Delly would cost more than $24 million a season if you add in luxury tax considerations (http://factoryofsadness.co/2016/06/29/nba-free-agency-5-potential-landing-spots-for-matthew-dellavedova/). So unless RJ's worth more than that, this development does nothing to support your crush on him. You also look like an idiot saying a 41% regular season 3 pt shooter can't hit the side of a barn door. Shooting is streaky and I'll take a season's worth of data and suggest he can actually hit barn doors. Last playoffs doesn't even count, he was on a roster with no firepower in a much larger role, and even Lebron's FG% took a big hit. These playoffs he was likely hurt and couldn't (not can't) get hot. Danny Green held the record for playoff series' 3 pt shooting but has also had some horrificly cold playoff runs. It's called being a shooter and small playoff sample sizes make the %'s fairly meaningless. Jefferson was forced to play more due to Lebron moving to PF and the cavs having no other decent SF options, which I've said several times cause you keep bringing up minutes like it means something other than Lue being stuck having to play a cheap low impact vet (due to salary cap restricting their depth) who surprisingly had a decent run (not even backed up by the numbers) after years of irrelevance. Good luck finding any ranking/analyst that thinks RJ is worth more than Delly. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Savage. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
I could dig Durant on the Clippers, but their supporting cast is thin enough as it is. | ||
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JimmiC
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