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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:41 Jibba wrote: So even though the Magic got horribly ripped off, the Kings are still the worst organization in the league. Holy shit. I came to type something to this effect. What are the Magic and Kings doing?!? Also, the Pistons quietly had a nice draft ^^. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
On June 24 2016 04:23 Jerubaal wrote: It feels like the collection of talent in the NBA is becoming more and more concentrated. nah, if anything there is more parity than ever before in the East. I can't speak for the west because i don't watch it enough to comment. the Raptors, Heat, and Pacers are 1 really good player away from competing with Cleveland. For the Raptors that 1 good player might be JV. Tall athletes take a long while to develop and often improve by leaps and bounds even when they are 24 or 25. JV just turned 24. Had Bosh been 100% healthy and playing at a top level do the Heat take Cleveland to 7? Had Lowry and JV been 100% the Raptors have a reasonable chance at taking Cleveland to 7. I'm not sure why Atlanta can't handle Cleveland in the playoffs but they are good as well... and really only 1 player away from winning the Eastern Conference in 2017. imo, the eastern conference Cleveland is favoured but by no means are they unstoppable. 1 key player gets hurt and there are several teams that can beat them. i'll have more on this later when i cover the shifting trend of NBA teams developing their own players. The NBA is becoming more like MLB in this respect and i think its great. Fuck the NCAA. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 25 2016 04:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote: nah, if anything there is more parity than ever before in the East. I can't speak for the west because i don't watch it enough to comment. the Raptors, Heat, and Pacers are 1 really good player away from competing with Cleveland. For the Raptors that 1 good player might be JV. Tall athletes take a long while to develop and often improve by leaps and bounds even when they are 24 or 25. JV just turned 24. Had Bosh been 100% healthy and playing at a top level do the Heat take Cleveland to 7? Had Lowry and JV been 100% the Raptors have a reasonable chance at taking Cleveland to 7. I'm not sure why Atlanta can't handle Cleveland in the playoffs but they are good as well... and really only 1 player away from winning the Eastern Conference in 2017. imo, the eastern conference Cleveland is favoured but by no means are they unstoppable. 1 key player gets hurt and there are several teams that can beat them. i'll have more on this later when i cover the shifting trend of NBA teams developing their own players. The NBA is becoming more like MLB in this respect and i think its great. Fuck the NCAA. Atlanta went into rebuilding mode though. It'll be a couple years before they back at it. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
On June 25 2016 07:41 Jerubaal wrote: Maybe, but it felt like there were some shining seasons when teamwork and strategy could overcome brute talent and athleticism....and then it just devolved into a free agent arms race again. it might do that. lots of big market teams will have lots of money to spend. This is mitigated now more than ever due to the importance of developing 19-22 year olds on your D-league team though. So the New York Yankees always outspent the Tampa Bay Rays by 4 to 1. The Rays were much better at developing pitchers and so they competed very successfully against New YOrk while spending not much. Obviously, the importance of development in the NBA is nowhere near MLB levels. So as extreme an example like NYY and TBR is not possible in the NBA. However, the 2 leagues are getting closer on the importance of development than ever before. Development is now at least a small factor in an NBA team's success. 20+ years ago it was irrelevent. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 25 2016 02:04 MassHysteria wrote: I came to type something to this effect. What are the Magic and Kings doing?!? Also, the Pistons quietly had a nice draft ^^. Yeah, I can live with our guys. Ellenson's defense is the biggest concern but to get him at 18 is quite nice. Even if he's a backup 4, I can live with that. It's Andre's improvement we're really counting on. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
The Kings drafted 2 centers... and they already have Cauley-Stein and Koufos. The writing is on the wall. Anyways... ya that's my pipe dream for this offseason, would be sick to see Wall and Boogie back on the same team | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 26 2016 05:27 JimmiC wrote: It will be interesting to see if the kings are dysfunctional because of boogie or vice versa. He for sure needs to be somewhere new. Boogie is dysfunctional, the Kings are also dysfunctional. They each make the other even worse. It's a bad situation and they need to end the experiment. Might as well ship him out East where he can do some damage in the opposite conference. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16513711 the only real question is : will this be a 5 year deal giving the Raptors the bird exemption from the cap? | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 26 2016 22:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote: further confirming all the previous info i've provided. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16513711 the only real question is : will this be a 5 year deal giving the Raptors the bird exemption from the cap? Thanks for providing this info | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Regardless of whether or not he's 19 like he claims or 23, the fact is he's athletically gifted and what he can do at his height is pretty enticing. If you imagine that every player has a finite number of 'miles' with which to play basketball with, Maker at 23 has used substantially less miles than let's say Ingram at 19. Ingram has played high level organized ball since he was a kid, and been developing skills for many years. Maker was probably serving around school yards until only a few years ago. The only difference is that in the 2-3 years it'll take him to develop he'll be older than someone like Ingram will be. If you imagine that a player peaks from 27-30, and a long NBA career takes you to about 35, Maker still has a 12 year career ahead of him. If you can get him for 12 years and he reaches his potential, I don't really see how him starting at 19 or 23 really matters... | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
Most male athletes 6 feet tall and under peak at a substantially lower age. Many shorter athletes peak from age 22-24. Lying about age may only have a small impact, in this case, as you've indicated. However, this kind of deception can be huge in other cases. Basically, the taller you are the later you peak as an athlete. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
Morey had been pretty open about not wanting Dwight anymore months ago too(which speaks volumes). It didn't surprise me when they hired D'Antoni as coach for that same reason. Whiteside to LA is very possible. He is still young enough and not-rich-enough to be solely looking at contenders. They have to (and prob should) make him their top target and offer him his max (which is still less than Horford's) so they have a good chance. I am glad Mike Brown is back in the league. He was never given a fair chance in LA, and he is by no means a bad coach. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
how about a 30 year old pretending to be 17.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/basketball/the-facts-in-jonathan-nicolas-case-are-sometimes-a-bit-hazy/article29813704/ both Maker and Nicola are Sudanese. Basically, if you are a helpless under-18 refugee from what Canada considers to be a "poor country" you can get in here pretty easily as long as you're polite during the interview. | ||
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