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BfA Community Links:
GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde
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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 21 2016 14:45 GMT
#1541
On August 21 2016 22:40 Cyro wrote:
brb taking a nap during server queue


10 million subs inc for legion

all the server ques
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 21 2016 14:58 GMT
#1542
On August 21 2016 19:46 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
They talked a bit about the WoD issues. Anyone who played on a big horde server remember the spyglass of doom and the lines people made in front of it. I'm sure they're going to do all that's possible to avoid that.


took like 6 hours in total to do the 3 worst quests


I was the 2nd Horde on my realm to get there, even me and one other guy couldn't get the fucking Spyglass to work, and we were overrun with hundreds of people about half an hour later. I just logged out and continued the next morning.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 16:34:20
August 21 2016 16:33 GMT
#1543
I think the best solution was to run slag mines until 92 and then go to Gorgrond. Some people in my guild did that and got way ahead of the curve. I don't expect Legion to have the same issues since, in the interview, they seemed very well aware of it and planning for it and testing for it. But if it does, may as well run some dungeons rather than do nothing.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 17:30:59
August 21 2016 17:30 GMT
#1544
I think the best solution was to run slag mines until 92 and then go to Gorgrond. Some people in my guild did that and got way ahead of the curve.


Yeah, seems that way

Extra bonus: World server had 2000ms of latency, dungeon server had 30ms
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 21 2016 18:16 GMT
#1545
That was a thing since bc release (which was the worst of all I am pretty sure).
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 18:46:41
August 21 2016 18:35 GMT
#1546
Previous launches didn't have hours of 2000 ping for so long after launch in my experience (day 2)

I did play through TBC, WOTLK, Cata and WOD launches. In my experience i'd put the launch problems:

WOD (broken for multiple days, often completely unplayably so)

>>> TBC (broken but not so bad 10-24+ hours after launch.. been a while, maybe i forget)

> WOTLK

>> Cata (didn't even have lag until reaching deepholm)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 21 2016 19:30 GMT
#1547
On August 21 2016 05:01 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 04:40 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 21 2016 03:25 Cyro wrote:
The team will avoid nerfing a spec from being a little too good to the worst so that you don't feel that all of your Artifact progression was a waste.


It's official, almost every mythic hunter will be MM for the whole of the first tier

Everyone on the server was doing Frostfire at the same time, resulting in a laggy zone and even more players building up there, making things even worse.


This is why the previous developers at blizzard learned from burning crusade and made WOTLK and Cataclysm have two starting zones instead of one. A lesson since forgotten and hopefully relearned

WoD had two starting zones, it's just they were faction limited


And unfortuntately most servers (especially the big ones?) are biased towards one faction. Some 60/40, others 99/1

Yeah I'm just being a nitpicky bastard

On August 22 2016 01:33 NonY wrote:
I think the best solution was to run slag mines until 92 and then go to Gorgrond. Some people in my guild did that and got way ahead of the curve. I don't expect Legion to have the same issues since, in the interview, they seemed very well aware of it and planning for it and testing for it. But if it does, may as well run some dungeons rather than do nothing.

That's what I did after I got to the Colors Don't Run quest or whatever that was buggy as shit and ran out of bonus objectives/other quest hubs to do

Fun times...
rip
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 21:30:52
August 21 2016 21:28 GMT
#1548
On August 22 2016 03:16 Redox wrote:
That was a thing since bc release (which was the worst of all I am pretty sure).

No, it was perfectly playable. Some lag here and there, but playable. WoD was definitly the worst release i had seen. I am having a hard time remembering an MMORPG release worse than WoD.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 21 2016 22:37 GMT
#1549
Cata had plenty of lag for me Cyro.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
August 21 2016 22:41 GMT
#1550
On August 22 2016 07:37 bo1b wrote:
Cata had plenty of lag for me Cyro.


Probably depends a lot on the server. When WOD came there were probably enough people queued onto my server to fill it to 150-200% capacity for a while - especially since people saw queues of 8 hours and took measures to prevent being logged out
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 23:32:41
August 21 2016 23:31 GMT
#1551
On August 22 2016 06:28 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2016 03:16 Redox wrote:
That was a thing since bc release (which was the worst of all I am pretty sure).

No, it was perfectly playable. Some lag here and there, but playable. WoD was definitly the worst release i had seen. I am having a hard time remembering an MMORPG release worse than WoD.

Apparently not everywhere. I was trying for hours just to get to an instance so I could do anything. Doing a quest did not even cross my mind because it was so impossible.
Off-season = best season
Lockitupv2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States496 Posts
August 22 2016 00:02 GMT
#1552
Silly question but I dont have a subscription right now so I dont know the answer but are the artifact weapons available yet?
That's right folks, I definitely heard an ethnic twang in that voice, so everyone put your guesses on the screen. It's everyone's favorite game, it's Guess the Minority!!!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-22 00:09:28
August 22 2016 00:08 GMT
#1553
No, they're available on day 1 of the expansion

[image loading]

^big lack of healers & ranged DPS recently
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22662 Posts
August 22 2016 06:40 GMT
#1554
On August 22 2016 09:02 Lockitupv2 wrote:
Silly question but I dont have a subscription right now so I dont know the answer but are the artifact weapons available yet?

no not until release
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 22 2016 06:50 GMT
#1555
On August 22 2016 09:08 Cyro wrote:
No, they're available on day 1 of the expansion

[image loading]

^big lack of healers & ranged DPS recently


Good thing they released another tank/melee class ;o

Also TBC/WOTLK/CATA all had lag issues for me at launch but MOP ran pretty smoothly

I missed the first few hours of WOD but by the time I got on it was working fine
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 22 2016 09:53 GMT
#1556
the current melee situation will probably be not a problem when legion hits (dont quote me on this) but everyone and their mother plays dh currently (and most do it pretty badly - quote me on this)
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 22 2016 13:50 GMT
#1557
Well now that the game has had 3 classes added to it and all 3 are melee (even Mistweaver spec is basically melee if you pick certain talents) it kinda makes sense things are getting a little too melee heavy.

But yea, also as the guy above me points out everyone and their mom is playing around with Demon Hunters right now. As cool as the invasion stuff is there really just isn't much to do till Legion hits besides explore the new Hero Class.

If WoW keeps going for several more expansions maybe we'll see them add a ranged class, but there isn't really any good ranged class/fantasy/theme missing from the game...

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe something dragon themed?
I can take that responsibility.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-22 14:05:32
August 22 2016 13:59 GMT
#1558
On August 22 2016 22:50 Tictock wrote:
Well now that the game has had 3 classes added to it and all 3 are melee (even Mistweaver spec is basically melee if you pick certain talents) it kinda makes sense things are getting a little too melee heavy.

But yea, also as the guy above me points out everyone and their mom is playing around with Demon Hunters right now. As cool as the invasion stuff is there really just isn't much to do till Legion hits besides explore the new Hero Class.

If WoW keeps going for several more expansions maybe we'll see them add a ranged class, but there isn't really any good ranged class/fantasy/theme missing from the game...

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe something dragon themed?


All you'd have to do is check the wc3 hero listings.

Naga sea witch.

Alchemist.

Tinker.

Nerubian crypt fiend.

Elemental anything

There's still more races and classes to make or take inspiration from.

The best thing they could do is probably to add more variants to already existing classes. C'thun warlock, Priestess of elune, dragon Hunter, etc.

You can steal a lot of stuff from pathfinder or dnd and get away with it.
"Mudkip"
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 22 2016 14:22 GMT
#1559
Sorry but I'm not sure any of those quite fit with what it would take to be a new Class in WoW.

Naga Sea Witch and Nerubian Crypt fiend are too specific and imply a race as well. Plus Sea Witch isn't really that different from the current Mage or Shaman.

Alchemist, tinker, and Elemetal anything overlap too much with stuff that is currently in the game. Well maybe something kinda like an Alchemist or Tinker, like a Potion's Master or a Mecha-Mage is possible. Elemental anything is too well covered by Mage and ofc Elemental Shaman.
I can take that responsibility.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-22 14:29:59
August 22 2016 14:28 GMT
#1560
I've found the game very difficult to play as a melee with the 29 yard max camera zoom, they unbroke the command to max it up to 39 yards which is a lot better but don't seem to have added it back to the ingame slider yet.

at 29 yards i couldn't even easily see which way iron reaver was facing because you're just staring at your character model between the feet of the boss

------

Well now that the game has had 3 classes added to it and all 3 are melee (even Mistweaver spec is basically melee if you pick certain talents) it kinda makes sense things are getting a little too melee heavy.


They reworked holy paladins and survival hunters to be melee too this expansion
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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