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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 11:30:48
August 20 2016 11:27 GMT
#1521
If you have a spare 2 million gold to pay for your sub during legion then congrats.

I don't really care about it because "spending" 50 or 100 hours of your life for a month of gameplay is of much higher value to me than $15
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 11:44:09
August 20 2016 11:34 GMT
#1522
I still have enough gold left over and am stocked on tokens to the max. Apart from that if its harder to obtain gold in Legion the token prices will reflect that.

Also for me personally it is fun to gain things in game that have value irl. More fun actually then getting some ingame item that you throw away in a week.

In Hearthstone I would also never buy card packs because it is actually fun to me to earn them. Not because I cant afford it.
Off-season = best season
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8749 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 15:46:58
August 20 2016 15:37 GMT
#1523
I'm just hoping I'm not completely bullied out of buying anything of importance during Legion with my 250k. What are the boosting/carrying guilds going to be spending their gold on? I'm afraid of prices being driven so high that I can't afford basics. There aren't raid-ilvl BoE world drops in Legion like there were in Draenor, right? So they're gonna be trying to dominate the crafted gear market, trying to get people to sell their gear for outrageous prices rather than equip it themselves. Same with flasks, potions, enchants and gems. They'll offer so much gold that the crafters would rather sell and not have enough for themselves. My main and alt are engi/jc and engi/ench. And I've got another character that I don't plan to play but is mining/herbalism. I've got an alch I'm not planning to play. So hopefully I can make some money off engineering, make my own gems and enchants, spend gold on flasks/pots, and probably give up on any hope of having any good crafted gear (which won't matter much in the long run).

edit: I'm also surprised by how many people pay for Arch carry. If the Moose was on a vendor in Warspear for 40k, I don't think so many people would buy it. So people are paying to fake the achievement? The thrill of the kill even though they're just spectators? I don't get it.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 20 2016 15:56 GMT
#1524
I don't get why anyone would pay for a HC archi kill when it's such an easy encounter that many guilds gladly take pugs for the ride for free.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 16:20:33
August 20 2016 16:16 GMT
#1525
I'm just hoping I'm not completely bullied out of buying anything of importance during Legion with my 250k. What are the boosting/carrying guilds going to be spending their gold on? I'm afraid of prices being driven so high that I can't afford basics. There aren't raid-ilvl BoE world drops in Legion like there were in Draenor, right?


My server has half a dozen or so guilds that i've heard have ~10m+ going to BoE's etc. They might even go for 250k each in the first few weeks but i have really no idea about the supply, demand or really even which items exist. I've opted out of mythic rushing the first tier for my own sanity because of all of this, class/spec selection, artifact quirks, split running for gear etc.

I don't get why anyone would pay for a HC archi kill when it's such an easy encounter that many guilds gladly take pugs for the ride for free.


I'm ~i710 on my new char w/ 13/13 mythic HFC and have been declined from every single archimonde heroic (and usually even normal) group after linking that achievement, imagine trying to do shit without it. Gimme a poke if you're in one of those guilds
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21798 Posts
August 20 2016 16:39 GMT
#1526
On August 21 2016 00:37 NonY wrote:
I'm just hoping I'm not completely bullied out of buying anything of importance during Legion with my 250k. What are the boosting/carrying guilds going to be spending their gold on? I'm afraid of prices being driven so high that I can't afford basics. There aren't raid-ilvl BoE world drops in Legion like there were in Draenor, right? So they're gonna be trying to dominate the crafted gear market, trying to get people to sell their gear for outrageous prices rather than equip it themselves. Same with flasks, potions, enchants and gems. They'll offer so much gold that the crafters would rather sell and not have enough for themselves. My main and alt are engi/jc and engi/ench. And I've got another character that I don't plan to play but is mining/herbalism. I've got an alch I'm not planning to play. So hopefully I can make some money off engineering, make my own gems and enchants, spend gold on flasks/pots, and probably give up on any hope of having any good crafted gear (which won't matter much in the long run).

edit: I'm also surprised by how many people pay for Arch carry. If the Moose was on a vendor in Warspear for 40k, I don't think so many people would buy it. So people are paying to fake the achievement? The thrill of the kill even though they're just spectators? I don't get it.

Crafted will be expensive as hell in the time before raids opens, Either get a friend/alt to craft them or simply don't bother and farm dungeons and Mythic+ once it opens.
If Epics are sold on the BMAH again then they will go for huge numbers but that's something you can ignore.

Gems/Flasks/Food will be more expensive because there will be less mats. No farm/mine to give everyone free mats and they will be maybe to expensive for the first week or 2 of raiding but that will quickly drop to manageable levels.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 18:30:02
August 20 2016 18:25 GMT
#1527
The team will avoid nerfing a spec from being a little too good to the worst so that you don't feel that all of your Artifact progression was a waste.


It's official, almost every mythic hunter will be MM for the whole of the first tier

Everyone on the server was doing Frostfire at the same time, resulting in a laggy zone and even more players building up there, making things even worse.


This is why the previous developers at blizzard learned from burning crusade and made WOTLK and Cataclysm have two starting zones instead of one. A lesson since forgotten and hopefully relearned
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
August 20 2016 18:33 GMT
#1528
On August 21 2016 00:37 NonY wrote:
I'm just hoping I'm not completely bullied out of buying anything of importance during Legion with my 250k. What are the boosting/carrying guilds going to be spending their gold on? I'm afraid of prices being driven so high that I can't afford basics. There aren't raid-ilvl BoE world drops in Legion like there were in Draenor, right? So they're gonna be trying to dominate the crafted gear market, trying to get people to sell their gear for outrageous prices rather than equip it themselves. Same with flasks, potions, enchants and gems. They'll offer so much gold that the crafters would rather sell and not have enough for themselves. My main and alt are engi/jc and engi/ench. And I've got another character that I don't plan to play but is mining/herbalism. I've got an alch I'm not planning to play. So hopefully I can make some money off engineering, make my own gems and enchants, spend gold on flasks/pots, and probably give up on any hope of having any good crafted gear (which won't matter much in the long run).

edit: I'm also surprised by how many people pay for Arch carry. If the Moose was on a vendor in Warspear for 40k, I don't think so many people would buy it. So people are paying to fake the achievement? The thrill of the kill even though they're just spectators? I don't get it.


The appeal of the moose, is the exclusivity. They're patching it out after Legion hits.

But yea, expect the prices to be INSANE for like. a month or two before in the game. There's limited amounts of gear since raids won't be unlocked, and you have all these nerds that have farmed up millions of gold by selling gear/mounts in HFC for the last year. Not only will those raids be locked, but there wont be LFR until weeks after those raids unlock, so demand is going to crazy!!

Speaking of raids being locked, check out this interview (transcript + VOD) https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4yjl4b/legion_interview_fatboss_vs_ion_hazzikostas/

Raids & Mythic keystones will unlock after 3 weeks
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 18:45:18
August 20 2016 18:44 GMT
#1529
On August 20 2016 19:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2016 12:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I can't get the invasion glaives to register even though my DH has them literally equipped.

Did you get them from a chest?
I heard they do not register if you buy them.


Ive got multiple from both sources it might be bugged. I dont even see it under the appearances for Glaives I havent unlocked yet.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 18:51:53
August 20 2016 18:51 GMT
#1530
Oh wow this is huge: http://www.wowhead.com/news=255220/gamescom-interview-with-ion-watcher-hazzikostas-and-slootbag
In 7.1
“Addons will not be able to access unit positions in raids, dungeons, and competitive instances.” This was meant to be implemented for 7.0.3 but didn’t get addressed in time—there was a risk it could break outdoor world addons. Blizzard didn’t want to announce it until it was doable, and the work has been completed internally.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 20 2016 19:28 GMT
#1531
Honestly, Blizzard for a while created encounters with the idea of addons in mind.

Mythic Archimonde or even Mythic Kormok mechanics seems insane without a propoer tool to tell players where to be.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 19:36:07
August 20 2016 19:32 GMT
#1532
Yeah that's pretty huge, those addons are not just for those fights but rangemeters/radars help on a huge number of fights. All of those "hits everybody within 6 yard" mechanics etc.. They're on hellfire assault, iron reaver, kormrok, council.. you'd have to list off all of the fights that DO NOT use that mechanic.

This feels like the removal of that addon capability back in Wrath that let you draw on the ground - same stuff. Hopefully it improves encounter design and gameplay. It had gotten to the point where we just expect on every fight that blizzard will likely use these mechanics and every player will have a radar on their screen for them
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 20 2016 19:40 GMT
#1533
On August 21 2016 03:25 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
The team will avoid nerfing a spec from being a little too good to the worst so that you don't feel that all of your Artifact progression was a waste.


It's official, almost every mythic hunter will be MM for the whole of the first tier

Show nested quote +
Everyone on the server was doing Frostfire at the same time, resulting in a laggy zone and even more players building up there, making things even worse.


This is why the previous developers at blizzard learned from burning crusade and made WOTLK and Cataclysm have two starting zones instead of one. A lesson since forgotten and hopefully relearned

WoD had two starting zones, it's just they were faction limited
rip
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 20:07:10
August 20 2016 20:01 GMT
#1534
On August 21 2016 04:40 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 03:25 Cyro wrote:
The team will avoid nerfing a spec from being a little too good to the worst so that you don't feel that all of your Artifact progression was a waste.


It's official, almost every mythic hunter will be MM for the whole of the first tier

Everyone on the server was doing Frostfire at the same time, resulting in a laggy zone and even more players building up there, making things even worse.


This is why the previous developers at blizzard learned from burning crusade and made WOTLK and Cataclysm have two starting zones instead of one. A lesson since forgotten and hopefully relearned

WoD had two starting zones, it's just they were faction limited


And unfortuntately most servers (especially the big ones?) are biased towards one faction. Some 60/40, others 99/1
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21798 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 20:05:28
August 20 2016 20:03 GMT
#1535
On August 21 2016 04:32 Cyro wrote:
Yeah that's pretty huge, those addons are not just for those fights but rangemeters/radars help on a huge number of fights. All of those "hits everybody within 6 yard" mechanics etc.. They're on hellfire assault, iron reaver, kormrok, council.. you'd have to list off all of the fights that DO NOT use that mechanic.

This feels like the removal of that addon capability back in Wrath that let you draw on the ground - same stuff. Hopefully it improves encounter design and gameplay. It had gotten to the point where we just expect on every fight that blizzard will likely use these mechanics and every player will have a radar on their screen for them

That is pretty much exactly why its broken yeah. The AVR addon (think that was the name) was able to draw on a players screen for stuff happening in the game world and they nuked it hard because it was to much. Addons have once gain reached that point with arrows guiding you to spots on Kormrok ect so they are doing a new change to again crush that.

Providing the information the game gives you more clearly is fine, playing the game for you by telling you where to move ect, is not.

On August 21 2016 05:01 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 04:40 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 21 2016 03:25 Cyro wrote:
The team will avoid nerfing a spec from being a little too good to the worst so that you don't feel that all of your Artifact progression was a waste.


It's official, almost every mythic hunter will be MM for the whole of the first tier

Everyone on the server was doing Frostfire at the same time, resulting in a laggy zone and even more players building up there, making things even worse.


This is why the previous developers at blizzard learned from burning crusade and made WOTLK and Cataclysm have two starting zones instead of one. A lesson since forgotten and hopefully relearned

WoD had two starting zones, it's just they were faction limited


And unfortuntately most servers (especially the big ones?) are biased towards one faction. Some 60/40, others 99/1

WoD was dumb. But it kinda became unavoidable once Garrisons became static to one zone, still really dumb tho.

Fortunately Legion has 1 bottleneck at the very first minute of the expansion as everyone gathers in Dalaran and after that you spread out to your artifact quests and then to all 4 leveling zones so if the servers can survive that small initial hump it will be fine.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 20:28:41
August 20 2016 20:07 GMT
#1536
I checked a site w/ data and it said about 80% of realms have one faction outnumbering the other by 1.5x or more. Quite a lot of the biggest servers are 90/10 biased which is a big part of that issue

Fortunately Legion has 1 bottleneck at the very first minute of the expansion as everyone gathers in Dalaran


I'm sure that's gonna go completely fine :D

--

I think the radar was more problematic than kormrok arrows. We have an environment with lots of lazily communicated high damage mechanics that everybody deals with using a boss mods radar
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 20 2016 21:31 GMT
#1537
I can see the servers bugging out and the NPC who is supposed to come give you the quest to go get your artefact never showing up. But after that it should be fine.

They talked a bit about the WoD issues. Anyone who played on a big horde server remember the spyglass of doom and the lines people made in front of it. I'm sure they're going to do all that's possible to avoid that.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 10:47:09
August 21 2016 10:46 GMT
#1538
They talked a bit about the WoD issues. Anyone who played on a big horde server remember the spyglass of doom and the lines people made in front of it. I'm sure they're going to do all that's possible to avoid that.


took like 6 hours in total to do the 3 worst quests
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 11:30:32
August 21 2016 11:30 GMT
#1539
On August 21 2016 19:46 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
They talked a bit about the WoD issues. Anyone who played on a big horde server remember the spyglass of doom and the lines people made in front of it. I'm sure they're going to do all that's possible to avoid that.


took like 6 hours in total to do the 3 worst quests

Still felt faster then the fucking tea quest in mop.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20304 Posts
August 21 2016 13:40 GMT
#1540
brb taking a nap during server queue
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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