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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 22:57:13
November 02 2018 22:51 GMT
#10021
Phasing is one of the main drivers for me wanting to play non-live. Lots of gameplay/social impact and it actually ruins server performance in the open world as well, i constantly have 100+ms response time on spells now with 15 ping because i'm phased somewhere with performance issues. It used to run WAY better, no nostalgia.

---

New questlines for each crafting profession

WSG and AB remastered, visual updates

Battlegrounds against NPC's(..?)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
November 02 2018 22:55 GMT
#10022
Zandalari paladins confirmed
Almost makes me want to resub
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 23:14:52
November 02 2018 22:57 GMT
#10023
Moving onto 8.2.5

Goblin+worgen models

less awful fem worgen!

[image loading]

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Back to 8.2

Naga assaults and shit

"a crack in the ocean"

new island, nazjatar

"Rise of Azshara" for 8.2

new story quests, new factions (one faction to befriend for alliance and one for horde)

replayable outdoor content

naga themed weapon + armor sets, crab and seahorse mount, crab walks sideways lol



Azshara's Eternal Palace

8 bosses

naga hatchery

underwater boss

azshara




2'nd new landmass, "Mechagon", ancient lost city of the gnomes

Mechagnomes

robots and shit

new "MEGAdungeon", Mechagon, like karazhan - twice as long as normal


What's next for Sylvanas/Saurfang/Jaina/Anduin/Magni

new heritage armors in 8.2, tauren and gnomes

2 more islands in 8.2
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21634 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 23:16:20
November 02 2018 23:11 GMT
#10024
On November 03 2018 07:49 Danglars wrote:
I was sorta looking forward to heavily overpopulated starting zones, and tweaks on mob respawn rates. Classic with phasing? Do they know how much nostalgia is driving the hype behind Classic ... and how much people will question what else Blizz will change if there's sharding/phasing?
Yeah, give people the Classic experience they wanted. Let them see how much issues the game actually had and that the myriad of changes since has been to address actual problems that existed, then tell them 'we told you so but you wouldn't listen'.

Oh well. now we get years of "it wasn't vanilla enough".

Kinda surprised Azshara is the 2nd raid.
Is the 3e raid going to be 'totally not Garrosh 2.0 Sylvanas'?

Suppose it makes N'zoth very likely but I kinda expected him to get his own expansion.


Edit:
Turns out I can't count and totally forgot about 'Mandatory Troll raid'.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-02 23:15:18
November 02 2018 23:13 GMT
#10025
It's actually the third season, fourth raid total. It's like the TOS equivalent.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 03:01:57
November 02 2018 23:15 GMT
#10026
8.2 is bringing warfronts that you can queue into with friends, new difficulty+mechanics+rewards

FLYING (although this seems pretty damn late)

new bee, gryphon and mechanical parrot mounts

Coming.. "after 8.1.5"



Other stuff coming in the future but they're not doing the reveal at this blizzcon like they did for Argus last time

They're done talking about new content for WoW now



0:24

"What happen"

"..Someone set up us da bomb"

+ Show Spoiler +



---





"Do you guys not have phones? Yeah, you guys all have phones, right"

looool

That's like, "you think you do but you don't" tier right there. It's probably more damaging in the long run because they can't really fall back on it and go the other way like they did with the decision to make WoW Classic.

Lots of people super upset about this for many reasons. It currently has 4k likes to 105k dislikes on Youtube and Blizzard is mass deleting / censoring negative comments on the video, not just hateful stuff but actual constructive criticism.. just nuking everything. Guy got his comment deleted 4 times off of the top spot for the quote "No King Rules Forever My Son".



Six times! They've actually got somebody sat at a computer removing half of the comments on the diablo announcements. 4.5k likes and 122k dislikes so far, they haven't hidden that yet.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
November 03 2018 01:33 GMT
#10027
Why is sylvanas holding xalathat dagger? Clearly she's going full garrosh.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
November 03 2018 02:58 GMT
#10028
flying was in 7.2 in Legion, so this is the same pace as last expansion
rip
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 03:24:59
November 03 2018 03:08 GMT
#10029
Sure it is, the legion pace was just disappointing so keeping pace with that still feels bad. It took quite a while to get unlocked and then about 4 months after we unlocked it we were off to Argus where flying was not possible.

I'd rather flying for BFA come in the 8.1 to maybe 8.1.5 timeline at the latest if we're not gonna be able to use it in 8.3 anyway. We've seen the content, exalted with everyone for months before 8.1 already.

They could even open flying only on the older content and gate the 8.2 and 8.3 stuff for 3 months each to additionally unlock flying in those particular zones, whatever. That's enough time, is it not?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
November 03 2018 04:28 GMT
#10030
make draenor flying purchasable lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 03 2018 05:17 GMT
#10031
On November 03 2018 01:25 KadaverBB wrote:
You can rest easy now Cyro, I have slain the evil Tappo

I thought people had learned to stop responding to that jackass but glad he's banned anyway
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 03 2018 07:49 GMT
#10032
On November 03 2018 07:49 Danglars wrote:
I was sorta looking forward to heavily overpopulated starting zones, and tweaks on mob respawn rates. Classic with phasing? Do they know how much nostalgia is driving the hype behind Classic ... and how much people will question what else Blizz will change if there's sharding/phasing?

My first thought was to agree. But then when I think about how the classic rerelease will go down it makes me realize it wil be incomparible to vanilla anyway as the population situation will be so different..

Vanilla had a steady increase in population. Rereleased classic will be the complete opposite. It will be a huge population at the start and then drop sharply. To way less than 5% of the initial numbers I guess. And that would make for a super weid experience (first overpopulated then deserted) and nothing of that will resemble classic. With phasing they can adjust to the fluctuations and the experience should actually be moe similar to classic than without phasing.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21634 Posts
November 03 2018 10:59 GMT
#10033
On November 03 2018 16:49 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:49 Danglars wrote:
I was sorta looking forward to heavily overpopulated starting zones, and tweaks on mob respawn rates. Classic with phasing? Do they know how much nostalgia is driving the hype behind Classic ... and how much people will question what else Blizz will change if there's sharding/phasing?

My first thought was to agree. But then when I think about how the classic rerelease will go down it makes me realize it wil be incomparible to vanilla anyway as the population situation will be so different..

Vanilla had a steady increase in population. Rereleased classic will be the complete opposite. It will be a huge population at the start and then drop sharply. To way less than 5% of the initial numbers I guess. And that would make for a super weid experience (first overpopulated then deserted) and nothing of that will resemble classic. With phasing they can adjust to the fluctuations and the experience should actually be moe similar to classic than without phasing.
Really? Because that sounds like the opening of the first post launch EU server (Haomarush). Queues so long people would log in before going to work in the hopes to get through by the time they got back, GM's going around kicking people afking in random huts with macro's to avoid the automatic disconnect. And then everyone left when the next new server opened.

It would be the ultimate vanilla experience.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
November 03 2018 11:46 GMT
#10034
On November 03 2018 10:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Why is sylvanas holding xalathat dagger? Clearly she's going full garrosh.


PTR spoilers and speculation:
+ Show Spoiler +
Xal'atath is dormant after Silithus. The player character gets the dagger in a questline and empowers her until she breaks free.

Sylvanas is going to use the dagger to imprison N'zoth. Likely to die in the process so we have our heroic sacrifice to redeem her character.

Saurfang will be new warchief and the next expansion roll around.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 12:51:18
November 03 2018 12:47 GMT
#10035
On November 03 2018 07:32 Cyro wrote:




Phasing in classic! - gtfo lol



Doesn't really mean there will be phasing/sharding in the live version. It's clear that Blizzard is ensuring that the demo experience is smooth for everyone who purchased into it. As how it should be.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2018 19:11 GMT
#10036
MDI is pretty good, but I kinda woulda liked to see each set be played on all 3 maps to show off every map (even if a team won 3-0).
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 21:15:04
November 03 2018 20:05 GMT
#10037
They said that there will be sharding in classic but it will apparently be minimal. I'l have to wait and see how it is with sharding having huge drawbacks in the live version of the game for gameplay and server performance. Maybe a lot of the constant server performance problems during the day of WOD through BFA is related to CRZ etc rather than just sharding, it's very hard to say for sure.

They're still mass deleting comments over on the youtube video lol, top comment has been reposted and re-upvoted to #1 for the 13'th time. 287k votes with a 32:1 dislike to like ratio.

They're also apparantly taking down clips of the announcement/Q&A they don't like, even though posting blizzcon Q&A clips has always been considered fine and stuff like the red shirt guys videos were never taken down.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
November 03 2018 20:58 GMT
#10038
What is sharding?
Skol
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 21:05:03
November 03 2018 21:03 GMT
#10039
When you have 1000 people in one zone it might create 10 zones of 100 people instead of 1 zone of 1000 people

Most people into classic wow very specifically don't want sharding because they want a consistent community that isn't split by random shards, blizzard even admitted that no sharding was a tenet of the classic experience:
"One of the tenets of Classic WoW is none of the cross-server realms and different [server] sharding options that we have available to us today."


If they actually have sharding as a thing in the final product they're frankly idiots
If they exclusively use it for launch night/week i could kind of accept it, but that's it
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 22:11:32
November 03 2018 21:15 GMT
#10040
I'm pretty much in agreement there

Sharding sounds good in some ways but just hasn't played out well in practice IMO. Main issues being so many "edge cases" which cause issues and haven't really been thought about or fixed ever.

Quick examples - if you're dueling somebody and join a group, you often get pulled into another shard and instantly fortfeit the duel + can't see any of the players that were just hanging out in town with you.

There may be five versions of a rare mob on X server instead of one, and hopping from group to group to try your luck and camp many shards is more effective gameplay than camping it out on one single shard/server - i hate this server hoppy gameplay personally and have quit other games entirely over stressing about hopping between shards to find a "good" one constantly.

If you try to make a 40 man raid, all being on the same server, you often find that your raid is in three different phases even though they're standing on the same spot so you can't do the activity that you were trying to do. You might find when your 40 dudes run into Orgrimmar that 95% of the horde players are phased out and you've ended up in a weird version of Org that has the same amount of alliance players as horde, and all of your alliance guys are level 60 while most of the orgrimmar population is level 10-50 so you just stomp over them while horde defenders can't actually zone in to fight you because the shard is at full capacity for both factions.

Since there are less concerns about overloading the servers, they tend to be ran much closer to capacity and with WAY more players per server - like three times as many as we used to have. If a server is ever not at 100% CPU load or whatever during the day then they spin up more shards and add more and more players so that the server is at 100% load and that results in an experience which is consistently laggy and weird. It's like playing with 100+ms ping, spikes to 500ms throughout the whole day even though you have 13 ping to the server and the spikes extend to multiple entire seconds at a time of no server responses very regularly when fighting e.g. a world boss or around lots of players that are phasing on/off the server!

Dungeons have their own servers and do not experience this lag.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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