On October 12 2018 06:54 Noocta wrote: My guild killed Ghuun tonight. 78th world, 5th france, which is pretty nice.
I was benched for fetid ( other windwalker in the roster did that on ), mythrax and ghuun ( very melle unfriendly ) tho, and that really makes the tier feel a bit bitter to me. First time I experience a tier without doing the progress on the difficult bosses. Collateral effect of being a guild that doesn't ask for 1 alt, we're 35 raiders.
I'm not happy about the situation, but there's so little choice for a good 4 days raiding guild in France. :/ But heh, a kill is a kill I guess.
Yeah I feel your pain. I'm Frost DK and my guild is currently progressing on Vectis. I've pretty much been told that my chances of getting in the Fetid roster are 0. I've tried to steal a maintank spot to stop this from happening ;D Already tanking Zek'Voz because blood DK is OP there and started on Vectis progression. Hopefully I can stay on and progress as tank.
Definitely not a fun tier for Melee though. Unless you're a Rogue I suppose.
e: A 35-man roster is insane though.
which and how many melee are they currently running? because frost dk is actaully one of the best melee for that fight if they are choosing to run some other stuff and arent aware
I wonder how DK DPS do that fight properly. Since with the movement I always find myself falling a bit behind. Could be just the PUGs I run who tank it in weird places. I assume there is a sweet spot somewhere where the melee can avoid getting knocked too far back.
Overall though Frost is performing super well in Mythic from what I hear.
And I just got my AotC tonight while currently sitting at 368 ilvl as a Frost DK. So happy to have gotten that done. PUG raiding is fucking hell.
I heard frost dk's one of highest singletarget melee dps it that true?
AFAIK they have high burst, both ST and AOE. They usually blow way past me (havoc) on the meters even if they end up being substantially lower at the end of the fight
Havoc has a 13-28k DPS range (2.15x) on the sim profile, most of the upper end being caused by heroism and bursting blood potion rather than any mechanic in the spec causing a DPS change over time. BOS FDK's is 8-45k (>5x).
A healthy, normal range is probably something around 3x, give or take a bit.
Havoc is stable almost to a fault* while FDK's burst is extremely strong and distorting for the spec as they have to be afk and wet noodle for enormous periods of time to balance it out. I think they could both do with a bit of normalization to keep the damage range of specs maybe in the 2.25 - 4x area.
*The more consistent your damage is, the more you're hurt by any downtime. It also reduces your ability to effectively deal damage when it's a high priority to deal max damage within a time window of say 20 seconds instead of 5 minutes. To tune around that, specs with more stable damage are often given higher average DPS when applied optimally (otherwise burstier specs would be straight up better, sometimes doing 50% more and rarely doing less damage) which does feel good in a way to play with.
Swapping BOS for Obliteration on FDK alone (even with probably bad sim profile due to lack of updates) reduces the DPS range, reduces DPS variance and increases APM - it has a quarter of the downtime - but some combination of Blizzard and the FDK community have abandoned it.
On October 12 2018 06:54 Noocta wrote: My guild killed Ghuun tonight. 78th world, 5th france, which is pretty nice.
I was benched for fetid ( other windwalker in the roster did that on ), mythrax and ghuun ( very melle unfriendly ) tho, and that really makes the tier feel a bit bitter to me. First time I experience a tier without doing the progress on the difficult bosses. Collateral effect of being a guild that doesn't ask for 1 alt, we're 35 raiders.
I'm not happy about the situation, but there's so little choice for a good 4 days raiding guild in France. :/ But heh, a kill is a kill I guess.
Yeah I feel your pain. I'm Frost DK and my guild is currently progressing on Vectis. I've pretty much been told that my chances of getting in the Fetid roster are 0. I've tried to steal a maintank spot to stop this from happening ;D Already tanking Zek'Voz because blood DK is OP there and started on Vectis progression. Hopefully I can stay on and progress as tank.
Definitely not a fun tier for Melee though. Unless you're a Rogue I suppose.
e: A 35-man roster is insane though.
which and how many melee are they currently running? because frost dk is actaully one of the best melee for that fight if they are choosing to run some other stuff and arent aware
There are 2 Rogues and 2 DHs that outDPS me and will get picked I'm pretty sure. There's also 2 warriors. One of those will be picked for Shout (and they also have good DPS). Then there's a Paladin healer who insists on running a certain talent that means he's in melee too. I know it's retarded but he's the healing officer and there's not much we can do about it lol.
Frost is decent on Fetid because we can just pre-cast March of the Damned and ignore 50% of the knockbacks. Unfortunately the warrior, the Rogues and DHs have their 385 weapons already while mine drops from Fetid/Mythrax so I'm stuck with 370 for now...
Frost has great burst if you can get a good breath going. However breath has a 2 min CD so for 75% of the fight your dmg kinda sucks. On some fights we do great (Ghuun for example, I reach 200k single target during hero + beam lol), and on others it's frustrating. Imagine popping breath and then getting blood pool on Taloc or orb on Mythrax, GG.
I finally finished the war campaign and unlocked siege of boralus last night. Finished my +8 told dagor and got a +9 boralus key. Finished dungeon, 365 boots, but I currently had 360. I normally use my rerolls on heroic uldir on Saturdays, but I'll be at the beach with friends this weekend. So I decided "fuck it" since I really wanted to upgrade my 345 belt. Used a reroll...390 belt!!!!
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Finally up to 365 tank gear. My goal is to be able to confidently tank +10. Not quite sure if I'm there yet. But I think my key vanished? Did I lose my key from rerolling?
On October 12 2018 06:54 Noocta wrote: My guild killed Ghuun tonight. 78th world, 5th france, which is pretty nice.
I was benched for fetid ( other windwalker in the roster did that on ), mythrax and ghuun ( very melle unfriendly ) tho, and that really makes the tier feel a bit bitter to me. First time I experience a tier without doing the progress on the difficult bosses. Collateral effect of being a guild that doesn't ask for 1 alt, we're 35 raiders.
I'm not happy about the situation, but there's so little choice for a good 4 days raiding guild in France. :/ But heh, a kill is a kill I guess.
Yeah I feel your pain. I'm Frost DK and my guild is currently progressing on Vectis. I've pretty much been told that my chances of getting in the Fetid roster are 0. I've tried to steal a maintank spot to stop this from happening ;D Already tanking Zek'Voz because blood DK is OP there and started on Vectis progression. Hopefully I can stay on and progress as tank.
Definitely not a fun tier for Melee though. Unless you're a Rogue I suppose.
e: A 35-man roster is insane though.
which and how many melee are they currently running? because frost dk is actaully one of the best melee for that fight if they are choosing to run some other stuff and arent aware
There are 2 Rogues and 2 DHs that outDPS me and will get picked I'm pretty sure. There's also 2 warriors. One of those will be picked for Shout (and they also have good DPS). Then there's a Paladin healer who insists on running a certain talent that means he's in melee too. I know it's retarded but he's the healing officer and there's not much we can do about it lol.
Frost is decent on Fetid because we can just pre-cast March of the Damned and ignore 50% of the knockbacks. Unfortunately the warrior, the Rogues and DHs have their 385 weapons already while mine drops from Fetid/Mythrax so I'm stuck with 370 for now...
Frost has great burst if you can get a good breath going. However breath has a 2 min CD so for 75% of the fight your dmg kinda sucks. On some fights we do great (Ghuun for example, I reach 200k single target during hero + beam lol), and on others it's frustrating. Imagine popping breath and then getting blood pool on Taloc or orb on Mythrax, GG.
2min CDs are not bad for Fetid, you can use them on the first adds and the third ones. But it's for Mythrax and Ghuun that Frost Dk really start to shine.
On October 12 2018 22:38 Mohdoo wrote: A beautiful thing happened last night, boys.
I finally finished the war campaign and unlocked siege of boralus last night. Finished my +8 told dagor and got a +9 boralus key. Finished dungeon, 365 boots, but I currently had 360. I normally use my rerolls on heroic uldir on Saturdays, but I'll be at the beach with friends this weekend. So I decided "fuck it" since I really wanted to upgrade my 345 belt. Used a reroll...390 belt!!!!
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Finally up to 365 tank gear. My goal is to be able to confidently tank +10. Not quite sure if I'm there yet. But I think my key vanished? Did I lose my key from rerolling?
It's not a reroll it's a roll for additional loot,so maybe your key timed out? Keys are on a 7 day timer from when you obtain them.
On October 13 2018 03:01 arb wrote: Is the reorigination array retroactive? or do i need to kill a bunch of bosses in 1 week to catch up to the current level if im swapping to an alt?
It is retroactive, meaning if you have killed 3 bosses each week since uldir opened you will have the max stacks you can have. Its per character though so if your alt has not killed anything they won't have any stacks.
Does anyone have highmountain taurens unlocked and a tip or seven as to how one can speed up the grind?
I'm close to unlocking Maghar Orcs, and got the Nightborn unlocked, but the taurens are pretty ridiculous. There has to be something else than questing to honored and then finishing by doing 5 worldquests a day, that don't even give much rep in the first place?
I'm playing priest, so the dungeon grind cheaty stuff that classes with jumps can do to skip bosses, i can't.
At this rate it'll take me multiple months, is that supposed to be that way? I'm fine with the Honorbound grind, it feels like there's progress to some extend - but 500 rep at best per day is retarded for 50% honored to exalted.
Sidenote: as someone who never played a nightelf, how can someone bare that casting animation? I created a nightborn mage, made it to 22 and deleted it again. Just, ugh.
I unlocked Void Elves recently and while the grind was extremely easy, the annoying part is how most of the rep is time gated. I'm assuming it's similar for the other allied races.
Nightborn weren't that gated, to be honest. You basically can quest straight to like a third exalted, and from there it's less than a week of worldquests because every wq gives around 250 rep.
For highmountains, it stopped at 50% honoured, and you get now 75 rep per wq, with only 5-6 wq being up per day. At this rate, it'll take me more than two months to unlock them, slower than farming rep with the new factions - that can't be right.
People are talking about rep badges from the mission table that are supposed to help, but i haven't had a single one pop up yet. Is there a trick to getting them, do i miss an achievement or something?
Yeah high mountain is hard because their quest line isn't that long so it doesn't give you too much rep unlike say nightborne and you get honorbound rep for every WQ on KT(that's like 15-21 WQs), it's quite literally worst of both worlds and even the dungeon only has one boss that gives rep, apparently they're going to boost rep gains from legion in 8.1, hopefully they also make draenor flying purchaseable.
Yeah, guess it is what it is. Man, sucks. Kinda feels dumb too, why punish people who didn't play Legion excessively (i didn't). Just checked, seems to be true that they want to double the rep gained for old content.
I suppose that's good enough. Don't get me wrong, i'm not even against reputation locks for new stuff - i'm against reputation locks for new stuff that i have to grind in old content. It's like needing Bloodsail Buccaneers exalted to be able to do Kul'Tiras. It's an idiotic design choice.
Also figured out that you seem to need ilvl 900 followers for rep tokens to show up in the mission table. Great then. Even more timewasting on old content. Harumph.
On October 13 2018 10:15 m4ini wrote: Also figured out that you seem to need ilvl 900 followers for rep tokens to show up in the mission table. Great then. Even more timewasting on old content. Harumph.
The good thing is that it doesn't really take any effort to get your followers ilvl up. The bad thing is that I got them to 900+ and got 0 missions for Argussian Reach rep until a few days after I was already exalted with them
Well, it means i have to figure out how it works, so there's some effort. Didn't do mission table before, just went and bought some things that set my followers to ilvl 880 from the broken shore vendor dudette - no idea where to get the other 20 ilvl from, the doodads that i looted before set ilvl to 188, which is a bit weird to me, but alas. Can't check since all followers are on missions currently.
And, well, it'll take me quite a lot longer than a few days to reach exalted with Highmountain Tribe, so there's that.. grml.
edit: sorry, not to ilvl 188, but increases it by 10 up to ilvl 188.
I wish logging M+ was actually a thing. I'm kind of stuck at this point right now where I can't really do anything higher than a 6-7 key on my rogue (and tbh even finding a 7 pug takes about 1-2 hours). In two weeks I've only gone up a couple of ilvls because of bad M+ caches, and either getting duplicate drops or no drops from heroic uldir (stuck at 357 currently).
I'm not the best DPS by any means since I've been playing less than two months, but I'm generally the top dps by far in the keys that I'm doing. Just did a +6 ML with a 374 mage who was helping his friend pug his key, and I put up a more dps than him in the overall numbers.
Anyway if M+ were logged more often (or if people actually looked up M+ logs lol) I'm sure I could get into higher keys, but atm people just see that I'm 357 and haven't done higher than a 7. My only options are to keep doing 6-7 keys to grind my score a bit higher (which is painful considering it takes me so long to get into groups), or pray that the loot gods bring me up to 365+ next week
On October 13 2018 12:31 TheEmulator wrote: I wish logging M+ was actually a thing. I'm kind of stuck at this point right now where I can't really do anything higher than a 6-7 key on my rogue (and tbh even finding a 7 pug takes about 1-2 hours). In two weeks I've only gone up a couple of ilvls because of bad M+ caches, and getting either duplicate drops or no drops from heroic uldir (stuck at 357 currently).
I'm not the best DPS by any means since I've been playing less than two months, but I'm generally the top dps by far in the keys that I'm doing. Just did a +6 ML with a 374 mage who was helping his friend pug his key, and I put up a more dps than him in the overall numbers.
Anyway if M+ were logged more often I'm sure I could get into higher keys, but atm people just see that I'm 357 and haven't done higher than a 7. My only options are to keep doing 6-7 keys to grind my score a bit higher (which is painful considering it takes me so long to get into groups), or pray that the loot gods bring me up to 365+ next week
Fairly sure as affliction with the RA buff i should get another 20-30% mastery, which will equate to quite a large damage buff. Sadly im running out of ways to get the raid gear this week anyway lmao.
If its every 3 bosses for a stack until max it'll be at max rank at least I guess
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