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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 04 2018 21:10 GMT
#8901
Some gear being removed:

[image loading]

Unclear if the weeks worth of AP are or not
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
September 04 2018 21:16 GMT
#8902
Better than nothing, but man, how amateurish.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-04 21:42:08
September 04 2018 21:39 GMT
#8903
Watching some streams warfronts drop very high ilvl stuff also lol

Blizzard quality control is so bad on this game tbh
Neosteel Enthusiast
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 04 2018 22:11 GMT
#8904
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 05 2018 02:01 GMT
#8905
On September 05 2018 06:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Watching some streams warfronts drop very high ilvl stuff also lol

Blizzard quality control is so bad on this game tbh


its the cheapest 370 loot you can get in the game, Im scratching my head at the moment..
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 13:19:01
September 05 2018 05:39 GMT
#8906
On September 05 2018 11:01 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2018 06:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Watching some streams warfronts drop very high ilvl stuff also lol

Blizzard quality control is so bad on this game tbh


its the cheapest 370 loot you can get in the game, Im scratching my head at the moment..


370 guaranteed (including weps and i think azerite) from warfront weekly completion, yeah. It was a lot worse on beta where the rares also gave 370 gear.

--

3 bugs in sethralis first clear - worm boss was teleporting underground, some enemies (before lightning boss) created 5 stacks of sanguine each when they died, had to afk for 20 sec before starting last boss because unmovable enemies created sanguine on the spots where boss mobs spawn

Them 70-ish alliance footmen that stand around the boat whenever warfront is active really hurt performance
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 13:22:59
September 05 2018 13:22 GMT
#8907
The amount of envy people have in a cooperative game is pretty crazy to me. Yeah some people are involved in a race which I think should be kept fair, but as usual there are far more people not involved in the race who are outraged. I don't get it. The people who got the handouts could be someone's teammate in their next raid or dungeon and they want them to have worse stats and fewer azerite traits. I was happy for the people who got loot. Sometimes a bug actually helps players and it's a fun little perk. It wasn't even close to game-breaking and reddit was demanding a roll back which is actually a negative and really annoying for everyone.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 15:32:12
September 05 2018 15:00 GMT
#8908
On September 05 2018 22:22 NonY wrote:
The amount of envy people have in a cooperative game is pretty crazy to me. Yeah some people are involved in a race which I think should be kept fair, but as usual there are far more people not involved in the race who are outraged. I don't get it. The people who got the handouts could be someone's teammate in their next raid or dungeon and they want them to have worse stats and fewer azerite traits. I was happy for the people who got loot. Sometimes a bug actually helps players and it's a fun little perk. It wasn't even close to game-breaking and reddit was demanding a roll back which is actually a negative and really annoying for everyone.


I agree in part, I dont really care much about other people getting gear, I am annoyed about not having my keys updating properly. + Show Spoiler +
If I did I wouldve already quit within the first few weeks seeing the amount of content I have done and the rewards related to it)


However I dont think its unreasonable totally for some people getting upset over others getting loot though its a bit silly to reward what are effectively the best items in the game for little to minimal effort,+ Show Spoiler +
even if its just one piece is more baiting people into content you created based on rewards rather than quality of the content itself.)


Now say that guy who now has an inflated ilevel from little to no experience polishing his skills in the actual dungeons themselves now gets invited in your group and proceeds to piss all over your dungeon experience.

Or what if that guy is now getting invited instead of you because that item inflated his ilevel and now you are in this perpetual hell of consistently being behind in ilevel, then not getting the achievements you need or just end up constantly falling behind the curve in terms of cooperative play. I know alot of solo, casual but very skilled players who fall into this. + Show Spoiler +
(I think of it as WOWs version of MMR hell)


I can imagine there are lot of people who feel shafted in that way, some possibly unreasonably so, but many not.

Wouldnt it be reasonable to be somewhat aggreived when X guys work this hard spends all this time and then a guy just shows up into a warfront area tags a dying elite mob and walks away with a 370 item ?



Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22204 Posts
September 05 2018 15:05 GMT
#8909
On September 06 2018 00:00 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2018 22:22 NonY wrote:
The amount of envy people have in a cooperative game is pretty crazy to me. Yeah some people are involved in a race which I think should be kept fair, but as usual there are far more people not involved in the race who are outraged. I don't get it. The people who got the handouts could be someone's teammate in their next raid or dungeon and they want them to have worse stats and fewer azerite traits. I was happy for the people who got loot. Sometimes a bug actually helps players and it's a fun little perk. It wasn't even close to game-breaking and reddit was demanding a roll back which is actually a negative and really annoying for everyone.


I agree in part, I dont really care much about other people getting gear, I am annoyed about not having my keys updating properly. + Show Spoiler +
If I did I wouldve already quit within the first few weeks seeing the amount of content I have done and the rewards related to it)


However I dont think its unreasonable totally for some people getting upset over others getting loot though its a bit silly to reward what are effectively the best items in the game for little to minimal effort,[spoiler] even if its just one piece is more baiting people into content you created based on rewards rather than quality of the content itself.)

Now say that guy who now has an inflated ilevel from little to no experience polishing his skills in the actual dungeons themselves now gets invited in your group and proceeds to piss all over your dungeon experience. Or what if that guy is now getting invited instead of you because that item inflated his ilevel and now you are in this perpetual hell of consistently being behind in ilevel, then not getting the achievements you need or just end up constantly falling behind the curve in terms of cooperative play. I know alot of solo casual but very skilled players who fall into this. + Show Spoiler +
(I think of it as WOWs version of MMR hell)


I can imagine there are lot of people who feel shafted in that way, some possibly unreasonably so, but many not.

Wouldnt it be reasonable to be somewhat aggreived when X guys work this hard spends all this time and then a guy just shows up into a warfront area tags a dying elite mob and walks away with a 370 item ?

If your key doesnt update after a M+ relog, it fixed the issue when we had it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 15:12:09
September 05 2018 15:09 GMT
#8910
The whole reward structure of the game is based around time, skill and socialization = loot, basically. Bugs like getting free OP loot break that down which doesn't feel good. Inequality makes it far worse

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 15:44:49
September 05 2018 15:30 GMT
#8911
On September 06 2018 00:05 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 00:00 Rebs wrote:
On September 05 2018 22:22 NonY wrote:
The amount of envy people have in a cooperative game is pretty crazy to me. Yeah some people are involved in a race which I think should be kept fair, but as usual there are far more people not involved in the race who are outraged. I don't get it. The people who got the handouts could be someone's teammate in their next raid or dungeon and they want them to have worse stats and fewer azerite traits. I was happy for the people who got loot. Sometimes a bug actually helps players and it's a fun little perk. It wasn't even close to game-breaking and reddit was demanding a roll back which is actually a negative and really annoying for everyone.


I agree in part, I dont really care much about other people getting gear, I am annoyed about not having my keys updating properly. + Show Spoiler +
If I did I wouldve already quit within the first few weeks seeing the amount of content I have done and the rewards related to it)


However I dont think its unreasonable totally for some people getting upset over others getting loot though its a bit silly to reward what are effectively the best items in the game for little to minimal effort,[spoiler] even if its just one piece is more baiting people into content you created based on rewards rather than quality of the content itself.)

Now say that guy who now has an inflated ilevel from little to no experience polishing his skills in the actual dungeons themselves now gets invited in your group and proceeds to piss all over your dungeon experience. Or what if that guy is now getting invited instead of you because that item inflated his ilevel and now you are in this perpetual hell of consistently being behind in ilevel, then not getting the achievements you need or just end up constantly falling behind the curve in terms of cooperative play. I know alot of solo casual but very skilled players who fall into this. + Show Spoiler +
(I think of it as WOWs version of MMR hell)


I can imagine there are lot of people who feel shafted in that way, some possibly unreasonably so, but many not.

Wouldnt it be reasonable to be somewhat aggreived when X guys work this hard spends all this time and then a guy just shows up into a warfront area tags a dying elite mob and walks away with a 370 item ?

If your key doesnt update after a M+ relog, it fixed the issue when we had it.


I relogged several times, its still an 8. The only time relogging worked was when we were running an M+ already and did in a timer for a +3 or a +2, but the key didnt update. Relogging fixed that,

But the +14s and +8s etc that were the initial reward from doing the 0 are still just that. I went off and found a bunch of pugs to run reasonable keys with but its severely limiting on what I can do with my friends because running our own keys was supposed to help equalise people who were behind because of gear, or just let content covered etc with more repeatable dungeon runs.

I guess ill take a look when I get home.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 16:00:28
September 05 2018 15:47 GMT
#8912
On September 06 2018 00:30 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 00:05 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 06 2018 00:00 Rebs wrote:
On September 05 2018 22:22 NonY wrote:
The amount of envy people have in a cooperative game is pretty crazy to me. Yeah some people are involved in a race which I think should be kept fair, but as usual there are far more people not involved in the race who are outraged. I don't get it. The people who got the handouts could be someone's teammate in their next raid or dungeon and they want them to have worse stats and fewer azerite traits. I was happy for the people who got loot. Sometimes a bug actually helps players and it's a fun little perk. It wasn't even close to game-breaking and reddit was demanding a roll back which is actually a negative and really annoying for everyone.


I agree in part, I dont really care much about other people getting gear, I am annoyed about not having my keys updating properly. + Show Spoiler +
If I did I wouldve already quit within the first few weeks seeing the amount of content I have done and the rewards related to it)


However I dont think its unreasonable totally for some people getting upset over others getting loot though its a bit silly to reward what are effectively the best items in the game for little to minimal effort,[spoiler] even if its just one piece is more baiting people into content you created based on rewards rather than quality of the content itself.)

Now say that guy who now has an inflated ilevel from little to no experience polishing his skills in the actual dungeons themselves now gets invited in your group and proceeds to piss all over your dungeon experience. Or what if that guy is now getting invited instead of you because that item inflated his ilevel and now you are in this perpetual hell of consistently being behind in ilevel, then not getting the achievements you need or just end up constantly falling behind the curve in terms of cooperative play. I know alot of solo casual but very skilled players who fall into this. + Show Spoiler +
(I think of it as WOWs version of MMR hell)


I can imagine there are lot of people who feel shafted in that way, some possibly unreasonably so, but many not.

Wouldnt it be reasonable to be somewhat aggreived when X guys work this hard spends all this time and then a guy just shows up into a warfront area tags a dying elite mob and walks away with a 370 item ?

If your key doesnt update after a M+ relog, it fixed the issue when we had it.


I relogged several times, its still an 8. The only time relogging worked was when we were running an M+ already and did in a timer for a +3 or a +2, but the key didnt update. Relogging fixed that,

But the +14s and +8s etc that were the initial reward from doing the 0 are still just that. I went off and found a bunch of pugs to run reasonable keys with but its severely limiting on what I can do with my friends because running our own keys was supposed to help equalise people who were behind because of gear, or just let content covered etc with more repeatable dungeon runs.

I guess ill take a look when I get home.

Aren't they super easy to derank? Go in solo, start it, leave, reset.

On September 06 2018 00:09 Cyro wrote:
The whole reward structure of the game is based around time, skill and socialization = loot, basically. Bugs like getting free OP loot break that down which doesn't feel good. Inequality makes it far worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg


lol if people are happy having the same emotional maturity as a monkey, then I guess I'm just isolated for wanting to live up to higher standards. I'm not surprised by the reaction or tendency. I agree it's natural. I actually felt a pang of envy myself. But then when I process it and decide how to act, I'm able to behave differently and the way I feel about it changes from envy to something more productive. The people who spend so much time and effort processing it and don't get beyond envy are the ones I don't understand. We are not slaves to our impulses and natural reactions and emotions. If that were true I'd have been dead years ago :o

People decide to make a public post on a forum like reddit and they can choose to present themselves however they like. Whatever natural reaction they had they can now transform with rational thought into something productive. I don't know why they'd cling to envy and weakness and victimhood and choose to present themselves like that. And it's disturbing that there's a whole community of people so willing to circlejerk around that. Okay so some people got some free loot. There's plenty of loot to be had for everyone in the next few weeks. Go earn your loot and play well and enjoy the game. If some of your teammates got a little leg up, so much the better. I don't think it's that hard to frame it in a positive way and go on with life. Instead, people wallow in their worst reactions and make the situation worse for everyone.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 05 2018 15:56 GMT
#8913
Made out like a damn bandit with this whole Arathi thing. I was ilvl 280 going into it yesterday and I am now ilvl 310. Wooohoooo. It's funny because I have 6 pieces of 340 gear, but also a lot of 250 gear lololol
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 17:02:31
September 05 2018 17:00 GMT
#8914
I fucking loathe having to play RJW in dungeons to be competitive

https://imgur.com/a/NTSLYlc

Just look at this visual noise.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 05 2018 17:03 GMT
#8915
On September 06 2018 02:00 Noocta wrote:
I fucking loathe having to play RJW in dunegosn to be competitive

https://imgur.com/a/NTSLYlc

Just look at this visual noise.


I love RJW ! I find it so hilarious topping dps on big pulls with some weaker pugs ive run tanking and RJW is like 60% of the damage..

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 19:54:32
September 05 2018 19:45 GMT
#8916
Having a good laugh at ghuun, oneshot everything and then taking hours on him normal mode with a cutting edge guild. Pug killer? :D

Edit: Hotfix nerfs mid-pull! Hahahah
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 20:48:42
September 05 2018 20:48 GMT
#8917
Last boss on Temple of Sethraliss is so fucking boring. Who came up with this.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 05 2018 21:31 GMT
#8918
Honestly it seems like it was originally a much more complicated fight that got gutted. You’ve got those energy orbs for empowering Sethraliss that spawn after she’s fully healed, but they don’t really matter because you’re already effectively invincible at that point anyway. I’d wager that originally getting her healed was just the first half or so.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 05 2018 21:35 GMT
#8919
I feel like the fight would be much more fun if it wasnt 4 phases. By third phase you're just so bored of the fight and you cant speed it up by doing a mass heal at once since they changed it to specifically be 30% healing intervals.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 05 2018 21:36 GMT
#8920
On September 06 2018 06:35 Alventenie wrote:
I feel like the fight would be much more fun if it wasnt 4 phases. By third phase you're just so bored of the fight and you cant speed it up by doing a mass heal at once since they changed it to specifically be 30% healing intervals.


Its somewhat more of a challenge at higher keystones at the current gear level, but outside the challenge in terms of execution it is indeed quite boring
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