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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
November 03 2017 22:16 GMT
#7001
http://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-how-blizzard-plans-to-finally-bring-back-vanilla-wow-servers/
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 22:48:21
November 03 2017 22:32 GMT
#7002
Looks like stats got squished hard as well, people have 500x less hp (20k instead of 10 mill on a tank)

and ilvl 1000 being squished to 335

And now the big question: Is it coming in 7 months or 15?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22326 Posts
November 03 2017 23:05 GMT
#7003
On November 04 2017 07:32 Cyro wrote:
Looks like stats got squished hard as well, people have 500x less hp (20k instead of 10 mill on a tank)

and ilvl 1000 being squished to 335

And now the big question: Is it coming in 7 months or 15?

Id guess 8-10
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 04 2017 05:48 GMT
#7004
Good lord the cinematic team at blizzard. The facial animation of anduin during that wow clip, jesus. Those guys earn their pay.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 04 2017 11:20 GMT
#7005
On October 31 2017 21:41 Warri wrote:
Y'all jealous bitches stop crying about titanforging because randomdude#33 got a 950 arcano and how unfair life is because of that please. The items of other people do not alter your gameplay and should not change your enjoyment of the game, unlesss that guy is applying to your guild and taking away your raidspot.
That you still have to do old raids because of set bonuses is blizzards fail to make newer sets stronger than the old ones and including legendaries 2+4 or 4+2 should not be a thing.
If you feel like you have to grind the heroic version of the raid in addition to the mythic one that is on you, the chance to get an item that is on mythic lvl is less than 3% and less than 1% to be higher than mythic. There are hundreds of thousands of players, so of course some will have a lucky proc, doesnt mean its a worty time investment for you.
AP and legendary drops hopefully go away too.

M+ is the new thing and takes quite a bit of focus away from raiding. If they keep pushing for it to be competitive, we need titanforging so that its not a top 100 raider only show.


Except the randomness does directly affect my enjoyment of the game.

If I insert X amount of time in the game I am expecting to be appropriately rewarded and to have better gear or power than someone who spends less time in the game.

Likewise if I've spent X amount of time in the game I should also have gotten to a certain skill level, which should be higher than someone that who spent less time.

Now if someone who spends less time playing the game and is also possibly of a lower skill level, gets a way better item than me due to luck than I will of course be pissed off.

I will be pissed off because I feel cheated, all the time I have spent on the game will feel wasted as no matter how good I am or how much time I am willing to invest someone can just get a lucky dice roll and get something better.

You could say however that, on average I should have better gear than someone with less skill and less time, and that may be true, but not all pieces of gear are created equally.

A critical legendary or trinket can make or break certain specs and it feels orders of magnitude worst to have it drop to someone who didn't earn it.

I hate warforged and titanforged with a passion, I wish it would burn in hellfire for all time across all dimensions and all realities.

It just brings so many problems to the game:
1. It makes it nearly impossible to balance the game as you can no longer tweek boss mechanics based on stats.
2. Due to the above certain boss mechanics have to be introduced which, to a certain extent invalidate gear, but this also has the effect of making the fights a lot less fun.
3. This system spits in the face of players who are willing to invest more time or skill to get the better gear.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 13:51:53
November 04 2017 13:44 GMT
#7006
http://www.wowhead.com/news=275398/class-raid-buff-abilities-returning-in-battle-for-azeroth

Class buffs back in a less micromanagement-annoying form than before. Previously if you died before the very end of a fight you had to have a good fraction of the players in the raid stop what they're doing, find you and rebuff you with stuff for optimal performance

This version looks like a lot of auras - as long as you have a DH within 40 yards of you, you've got that buff. Some others take the form of a buff that is put on one player in the raid which then buffs everybody else as well, so as long as your buff dude doesn't die then you're good; if they do, you can have a macro somewhere which rebuffs that specific player without requiring attention to find who it is, just a quick tap button.

I guess that the main goal of this is to incentivize class diversity. A raid with four rogues would have a physical damage buff but a raid with 2 rogues, a DH and a warrior would have physical damage buff AND +3% haste, +5% str/agi raidwide - a raid might not want to run the 4 rogue config even if they could and it would be optimal otherwise
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22326 Posts
November 04 2017 13:51 GMT
#7007
step 1 to better class balance is to stop designing dumb fights that hugely incentivise classes with immunities and multiple low cd dr abilities.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 13:57:24
November 04 2017 13:52 GMT
#7008
Yeah

After the nerfs avatar became a lot easier though, still perhaps too hard in the wrong ways
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
November 04 2017 16:11 GMT
#7009
No human allied race at launch, ah well. But atleast they have a great start to the project.
Sounds like it could be a great start to the expansion with tons of changes to the world.
If any of the warfront/islands/3v3 PvP/PvE-things get even close to the replayability of m+ I'm all for it. Hopefully they will not be as dead of content as scenarios back in the day.

Cinematic was beyond amazing aswell.
sick-strings
Profile Joined November 2017
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 17:53:34
November 04 2017 17:50 GMT
#7010
I'm super excited about the legacy server, can't begin to describe how much I love classic. That's not even rose-tinted nostalgia, I actually do have a level 60 warrior on a classic server.

Though I do wonder which patch they're going to give us. If they use the BC Pre-Patch, they kind of make MC and BWL (mostly) obsolete through easily farmable PVP epics. Then again, the older PVP system is kind of terrible.

It'd be interesting to see more details about all of this.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 04 2017 18:23 GMT
#7011
Really proud of my vanilla highest pvp rank achieved in bgs, "centurion" xD
Those were amazing days. Glad to see i get the chance to redo it!
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22326 Posts
November 04 2017 18:28 GMT
#7012
Commander (r11).
Never again...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 18:39:55
November 04 2017 18:35 GMT
#7013
No more legendaries (well, not exactly )



"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22326 Posts
November 04 2017 18:43 GMT
#7014
On November 05 2017 03:35 Cyro wrote:
No more legendaries (well, not exactly )

https://clips.twitch.tv/CleanAlluringDotterelHumbleLife

https://clips.twitch.tv/UgliestStrongPidgeonTheTarFu

So yes on Titanforging (/wrist)
And no legendaries but a progression system on some armor pieces that I guess might be based on the Argus Crucible??
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
November 04 2017 19:42 GMT
#7015
On November 05 2017 03:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 03:35 Cyro wrote:
No more legendaries (well, not exactly )

https://clips.twitch.tv/CleanAlluringDotterelHumbleLife

https://clips.twitch.tv/UgliestStrongPidgeonTheTarFu

So yes on Titanforging (/wrist)
And no legendaries but a progression system on some armor pieces that I guess might be based on the Argus Crucible??


It's not random, a specific helm from a certain dungeon will always have the same options (even across normal/heroic/mythic version)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 19:57:28
November 04 2017 19:56 GMT
#7016
On November 05 2017 04:42 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 03:43 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 05 2017 03:35 Cyro wrote:
No more legendaries (well, not exactly )

https://clips.twitch.tv/CleanAlluringDotterelHumbleLife

https://clips.twitch.tv/UgliestStrongPidgeonTheTarFu

So yes on Titanforging (/wrist)
And no legendaries but a progression system on some armor pieces that I guess might be based on the Argus Crucible??


It's not random, a specific helm from a certain dungeon will always have the same options (even across normal/heroic/mythic version)

I wonder how they will handle that with new pieces tho. Is progress saved across a slot? Is a new item not going to be 'better' when it drops because you have to progress it first (highly unlikely).
Or will it be like Legendaries where they stay with you the entire expansion.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 21:50:45
November 04 2017 21:50 GMT
#7017
I happened to end up being on the west coast this week and happened on a detour to blizzcon. I attended pretty much of the wow panels. Some interesting stuff with some very ambitious ai upgrades in particular. Will share some setailes thoughts later.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
November 04 2017 21:54 GMT
#7018
Honestly quite disappointed with what I'm hearing about the new expansion. Doesn't seem like there'll be much to attract me back to the game as a player largely focused on solo content. At least it seems to be addressing some obvious stuff, so that's good.
Writermaru pls
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
November 04 2017 22:10 GMT
#7019
On November 05 2017 06:54 Soularion wrote:
Honestly quite disappointed with what I'm hearing about the new expansion. Doesn't seem like there'll be much to attract me back to the game as a player largely focused on solo content. At least it seems to be addressing some obvious stuff, so that's good.

I'm curious what kind of content were you looking for?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
November 04 2017 22:11 GMT
#7020
On November 05 2017 07:10 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 06:54 Soularion wrote:
Honestly quite disappointed with what I'm hearing about the new expansion. Doesn't seem like there'll be much to attract me back to the game as a player largely focused on solo content. At least it seems to be addressing some obvious stuff, so that's good.

I'm curious what kind of content were you looking for?

I just want the ability to kill big monsters by myself, really. I miss days of wandering the world, searching for big max level elites that would pose a challenge to kill. Doesn't really happen anymore because they're so weak relative to, say, Wrath/Cata/MoP. Like, the Direhorn dudes in MoP were super fun to solo.
Writermaru pls
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