[WoW] Battle for Azeroth - Page 349

I think it is difficult to redo the old world and take into account heirlooms

On November 01 2017 08:46 Cyro wrote:


That's the thing, it's completely broken even without heirlooms because it's so far away from the correct tuning. The stat squishes and class reworks borked some numbers somewhere and nobody ever went back to check so naked people are walking around oneshotting everything.

Flat 3-5x enemy health and 2x exp on everything would probably be a good start and wouldn't take that much dev time.

Time to level would decrease, time to kill anything would increase a lot and combat would still be easy because player characters have a ridiculous amount of health and hp regen.

There are mechanics in dungeons that would really hurt you pre-squish but now you can just stand in it, it hits for almost nothing and your natural health regen heals you faster than you're taking damage. That doesn't even have to go away; pre level cap can be invulnerable playground but the combat should work, naked chars shouldn't one shot world mobs, dungeon bosses should live long enough to be worth applying a DOT to. You should be able to feel your spec in some form before level 100.

Those kinds of tuning changes do not need much work, it's hardly a cataclysm 2.0 - it's just going back to what the combat should play like below the level cap, what it did play like for most of its life before being inexplicably ruined

On November 02 2017 10:08 Anlo wrote:
Isn't the issue everyone has with the old world, leveling, heirlooms etc that you outlevel things too fast though?
So, if that is the issue AND they add world-scaling that we have on the shore to EVERYWHERE you are good right?
Because then you can do whatever you want whenever you want. Just keep questing and you wont do gray/green/useless quests simply for the reason that you wanted to complete Netherstorm or whatever zone/adventure you wanted? They'll now just keep being yellow quests forever.
Scale everything and nobody should be able to one-shot anything. If they are SO SCARED of losing new players just implement a massive tutorial and give them all abilities by level 20. Now they can use those abilities to actually stay alive rather than click one button then maybe three by level 50 cause if they have one or three abilities they obviously need to be able to kill things anyways thus leading to anyone with any gear/skill or a potion to one-shot 10 mobs in a pack. I think they are just scared of demanding the smallest amount if interest from their players.

If they then do world-scaling they can add whatever questchains, zones, missions, immersive scenarios, questhubs, small cities or what they want cause everyone can do. No matter what level they are, it is just scales up or down.

Or am I missing something?

On November 02 2017 11:27 calgar wrote:The zones also have some identity attached to their level - does it really make sense to have a level 10 in Silithus or a 60 in the Barrens?

BUT Legion fixed that with, technically atleast, all of Legion being "end-game".

On November 02 2017 18:17 Cyro wrote:


Have you been to the non-argus zones recently? I was doing WQ's with prydaz on and i noticed that a pack of 4 murlocs couldn't even break the prydaz shield any more, i could just stand there afk for half an hour and my char would still be alive

meanwhile one hit to them procs inner demon and oneshot the whole pack of 4

this is despite having mobs scaling to be way stronger, like 1.5-2x stronger than usual because they're detecting that you have high item level gear; still not even close to appropriate, there's no sane way to make the numbers work. Scaling mobs even that much is a bad band-aid fix to a problem that has been created on purpose.

dinging 110 we had ~100-150k simdps, early mythic raid we had 250k, in second tier gear we have 1700k.

scaling across the game is completely fucked almost everywhere, just particularly bad at level 1-90. 100-110 is pretty great, the numbers suddenly make sense when crossing the barrier into the most recent expansion but they get broken again when hitting the runaway exponential gear scaling at level cap



I would very much like to see next expansion have a DPS increase of 3-5x from dinging to t3 gear again instead of 25x. It's something that i've thought about every week for years and every time i am left wondering who chose to make the game this way and why they thought that it would be a good idea.. and why almost nobody is talking about it. This is the kind of basic math that is at the core of how the game works and feels to play, it's way more important than that. It's also a very low hanging fruit, low effort high return.

On November 02 2017 20:09 Gorsameth wrote:

Its been talked about a lot, both here and on other forums.

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