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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
November 17 2016 22:29 GMT
#4241
yeah it feels like i'm pretty useless in any m+ past +9 - don't have a second legendary yet, don't have level 35 trait.
Commentator
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-17 22:34:01
November 17 2016 22:30 GMT
#4242
Small question: at warcraftlogs how can I get a list of which player I have healed how much? I can only see which player I have healed how much with a specific selected ability like this:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XqGPBbDnW4QTpVag/#type=healing&source=37&ability=119611

If I deselect the ability and go to "all abilities" I get an overview of how much I healed with what, but not whom I healed.
Off-season = best season
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 17 2016 22:54 GMT
#4243
On November 18 2016 07:29 GTR wrote:
yeah it feels like i'm pretty useless in any m+ past +9 - don't have a second legendary yet, don't have level 35 trait.

I ran a +12 with a feral doing 180k dps on bossfights. It was his key so we couldnt choose but still. If youre pulling anywhere between 250 and 300k youre doing as much as 99% of the non 7/7 mythic guys.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-17 23:41:48
November 17 2016 23:38 GMT
#4244
On November 18 2016 07:30 Redox wrote:
Small question: at warcraftlogs how can I get a list of which player I have healed how much? I can only see which player I have healed how much with a specific selected ability like this:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XqGPBbDnW4QTpVag/#type=healing&source=37&ability=119611

If I deselect the ability and go to "all abilities" I get an overview of how much I healed with what, but not whom I healed.

edit: nm i misunderstood what you wanted. i dont know how to do that

edit2: i found it lol. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XqGPBbDnW4QTpVag/#type=healing&source=37&by=target on the right, there is a dropdown menu to change from "done by ability" to "done to friendly"

like this? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XqGPBbDnW4QTpVag/#type=healing&source=37&target=8

next to where you select an ability, like you have renewing mist selected in your link, there is a dropdown menu that says "all friendlies" where you can go select a specific ally
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-17 23:41:56
November 17 2016 23:39 GMT
#4245
+12 in time is doable w/ any class without that stuff, it's more about how you run it and who you're playing with
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 17 2016 23:46 GMT
#4246
On November 18 2016 08:38 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2016 07:30 Redox wrote:
Small question: at warcraftlogs how can I get a list of which player I have healed how much? I can only see which player I have healed how much with a specific selected ability like this:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XqGPBbDnW4QTpVag/#type=healing&source=37&ability=119611

If I deselect the ability and go to "all abilities" I get an overview of how much I healed with what, but not whom I healed.

on the right, there is a dropdown menu to change from "done by ability" to "done to friendly"

Yep that's it, thanks. Could not find that one.
Off-season = best season
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 00:15:33
November 18 2016 00:13 GMT
#4247
Apparently the people who exploited the Suramar AP bug kept the AP after their ban expired.

Fuck them.

A 72-hour ban is like a tap on the wrist compared to what the 'reward' is for exploiting the temporary glitch.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 00:20:58
November 18 2016 00:19 GMT
#4248
A 72-hour ban is like a tap on the wrist compared to what the 'reward' is for exploiting the temporary glitch.


Yep, that ban duration means that you're possibly ahead AFTER being banned vs where you would be if you hadn't exploited. Fuck that

at least ban durations are not static (some got 1 day, some got way more AFAIK)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 18 2016 00:27 GMT
#4249
They most likely also rerolled the ap dont you think?
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
November 18 2016 00:52 GMT
#4250
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess they couldn't roll back the AP for technical reasons.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 18 2016 00:54 GMT
#4251
Oh boy that dps requirement on mythic guarm...Q_Q gonna be next year before my guild will be even close to that. 15-16 people over 400k when we can muster maybe 6 at the moment in a single target fight.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 01:25:59
November 18 2016 01:25 GMT
#4252
On November 18 2016 09:52 Azuzu wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess they couldn't roll back the AP for technical reasons.

I'm pretty sure they have that ability actually. Probably not specifically roll back the AP, but they must have character saves to roll back to in case of emergencies. I'd wager that everyone banned lost the AP and whatever else they did between then and the latest character save.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 02:18:45
November 18 2016 02:18 GMT
#4253
On November 18 2016 10:25 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2016 09:52 Azuzu wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess they couldn't roll back the AP for technical reasons.

I'm pretty sure they have that ability actually. Probably not specifically roll back the AP, but they must have character saves to roll back to in case of emergencies. I'd wager that everyone banned lost the AP and whatever else they did between then and the latest character save.


They have character saves but I dont think they neccessarily go back far enough to roll them back to before all of these exploits.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 02:22:06
November 18 2016 02:21 GMT
#4254
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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 18 2016 02:43 GMT
#4255
Yeah the characters that have already served their ban are coming back without any rollback. Maybe there is a quirk making rollback take more effort than it's worth or they're unwilling to take away anything that was legitimately earned. If it's the latter, I think they made a mistake, because many players are thinking the punishment was worth the benefit and are now more likely to exploit in the future.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 05:43:11
November 18 2016 02:49 GMT
#4256
Some people got 2 or 3 million AP just playing by themselves. I did mythic+ for 2 hours earlier and got under 100k AP; that kind of deficit will take a long time to make up, even if it's doable in the ban duration it's a huge amount of hours played that many people either don't have or don't want to spend.

For this to affect playing hours for progress raiding in a notable way is infuriating

--

@above DPS stuff - my simDPS has improved less than 3% in the last 2 weeks which was kara, a couple mythic+ weekly chests (10 & 12) and two clears of 7/7m, 3/3h with maybe 30 or 40 mythic+ in between. If i did 370k now then i'd fall ~1.09x short of 425k after trait 35; it's technically possible before Nighthold but i'm not sure if it's practically possible. I've heard that you can eek out a few percent for 100% ST by using a different and harder to play talent which may be relevant

Massive difference between 400, 425k and 450k though. 400k being "fuck my life", 425 being "......." and 450 being just go home, no point loading the instance in the next 2 months. I'm sad to see arbitrary tuning and luck playing a larger part than skill here.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 18 2016 05:58 GMT
#4257
people already resorting to warrior cheese on guarm lul
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 06:23:20
November 18 2016 06:02 GMT
#4258
IMO the current balance for ST damage is inadequate to enjoy a boss that is tuned like that
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 18 2016 08:33 GMT
#4259
On November 18 2016 11:49 Cyro wrote:
Some people got 2 or 3 million AP just playing by themselves. I did mythic+ for 2 hours earlier and got under 100k AP; that kind of deficit will take a long time to make up, even if it's doable in the ban duration it's a huge amount of hours played that many people either don't have or don't want to spend.

For this to affect playing hours for progress raiding in a notable way is infuriating

--

@above DPS stuff - my simDPS has improved less than 3% in the last 2 weeks which was kara, a couple mythic+ weekly chests (10 & 12) and two clears of 7/7m, 3/3h with maybe 30 or 40 mythic+ in between. If i did 370k now then i'd fall ~1.09x short of 425k after trait 35; it's technically possible before Nighthold but i'm not sure if it's practically possible. I've heard that you can eek out a few percent for 100% ST by using a different and harder to play talent which may be relevant

Massive difference between 400, 425k and 450k though. 400k being "fuck my life", 425 being "......." and 450 being just go home, no point loading the instance in the next 2 months. I'm sad to see arbitrary tuning and luck playing a larger part than skill here.

when they've pruned the game like they have i dont see how it can be any other way
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 10:23:52
November 18 2016 08:49 GMT
#4260
Previous raids have had 30-300 wipe bosses even when overgearing because of difficult mechanics - "Oh by the way, the boss kills everybody at 4:00" is just not that. I don't particularly enjoy some of the "Oops, somebody screwed up a bit and your whole raid got oneshot" mechanics but it's a step above mathematically impossible walls if it comes to that
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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