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Shellshock
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On May 09 2015 04:22 TriO wrote: http://yourteamcheats.com/ Damn the guy who made this website is more knowledgeable than 99.9% of football fans on this forum. Basically the only 'cheat' the Browns did that isn't labeled "All 32 teams" is Textgate, which most people actually think hurt our on field performance because Ray Farmer is an idiot that pissed off Kyle Shanahan with his bullshit texting/interference. Joe Haden had a PED pop in the offseason(claimed amphetamines like everyone does but that's probably bullshit like it usually is), so that one can stick I guess. Summary: as a Browns fan I can basically call everyone else cheaters. Get on our level? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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On May 09 2015 04:22 TriO wrote: http://yourteamcheats.com/ Damn the guy who made this website is more knowledgeable than 99.9% of football fans on this forum. thanks for the link. here is a pretty good column that reflects my view on Deflate-gate http://www.sportsnet.ca/football/nfl/deflategate-a-self-inflicted-wound-for-nfl/ cheating isn't just an NFL thing its a North American Sports thing. and as the article i linked concludes ... the NFL should stay away from putting asterisks on career records and accomplishments | ||
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Ghostcom
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GoShox
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On May 09 2015 08:51 Jaaaaasper wrote: I'm still trying to grasp the difference between this and the Panthers getting caught on video messing with balls or the Chargers getting caught messing with balls and trying to cover it up in 2012, beyond the Chargers and Panthers being mediocre teams. Because, oh I don't know, the Chargers were found innocent? http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/07/chargers-cleared-use-sticky-towels-still-face-fine/ Amazing how all the Patriot fans are convinced that Brady never did anything at all and are deflecting like crazy.... while all we hear about is how punishments are imminent. Perhaps if he would've just cooperated with the investigation, all would've been okay? | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On May 11 2015 05:07 GoShox wrote: Because, oh I don't know, the Chargers were found innocent? http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/07/chargers-cleared-use-sticky-towels-still-face-fine/ Amazing how all the Patriot fans are convinced that Brady never did anything at all and are deflecting like crazy.... while all we hear about is how punishments are imminent. Perhaps if he would've just cooperated with the investigation, all would've been okay? The science is questionable at best as the sample size for the control group (the colts balls) only has 4, and if you take 4 of the patriots balls you get the same numbers... which contradicts their whole conclusion. This is combined with a questionable company being used to do some testing. 8 of the balls were also ~ 1lb under 12.5 which the report itself concludes is what they should have been. PLUS the official who initially measured the balls pregame thought he used one gauge but isn't sure and the report assumes he used the one he didn't think he used. The difference between the two gauges reads ~0.4. In New England the texts are viewed in a different context (joking) than the rest of the country seems to view them and one could argue they drew a conclusion then put much of the evidence into that context. I'd like someone from Boston who knows nothing about the situation to read those messages and see what conclusions they draw. This is also in conjunction with the fact that the two people that are the main point of the investigation willingly handed over this evidence with no real reason too (this isn't a police investigation and they had no obligation to hand personal information over). Brady did cooperate, giving what was described as a day long interview with multiple investigators and lawyers present. Brady was asked not to hand over his personal texts and information because it conflicts with the players unions stance and would set a precedent for future investigations with other players they don't want. Lastly, much to the New York media's dismay a suspension is not "imminent". The NFL made a statement saying otherwise. | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
On May 11 2015 09:05 giftdgecko wrote: The science is questionable at best as the sample size for the control group (the colts balls) only has 4, and if you take 4 of the patriots balls you get the same numbers... which contradicts their whole conclusion. This is combined with a questionable company being used to do some testing. 8 of the balls were also ~ 1lb under 12.5 which the report itself concludes is what they should have been. PLUS the official who initially measured the balls pregame thought he used one gauge but isn't sure and the report assumes he used the one he didn't think he used. The difference between the two gauges reads ~0.4. The last two sentences of your post are really important. The two needles were quite distinct in appearance; one needle was longer and was bent at the base. This needle is the one that the referee Walt Anderson recalled using before the game, though the lawyers coaxed him into stating that he wasn't certain. If we go by the referee's recollection and assume he used this needle, all of the Patriots' balls fall within the allowed limits and there is no violation at all. Instead the report insists on assuming that the referee used the other needle, which it needed to do for a pressure violation to be found. Florio sums it up here: profootballtalk.nbcsports.com. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
It doesn't help that prominent radio hosts Danny O'Neil and Dave Wyman are practically on the Seahawk's payroll. Not to mention corporate shill and executive (and also host of his own show with another blowhard) Mike Salk runs softball PR interviews for 'Hawks GM John Schneider. We are being told we should "trust" in the Seahawks judgment, so far as that Danny O'Neil argued about semantics, ie that John is not a liar about Clark hitting his girlfriend, because choking and throwing may not TECHNICALLY qualify as striking a woman... I absolutely cannot stand 710 ESPN Seattle right now | ||
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QuanticHawk
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
And then Belichick notices a flaw in the wording of the punishment that allows them to play under very awkward circumstances and he triumphs over the rules once again. | ||
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