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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 02:50:15
May 07 2015 02:42 GMT
#741
LOL, the "report" basically says: "Hey, they texted a bunch after it happened and he talked about getting signed things from Brady for his kids, so he probably did it. Also, I don't think that guy actually had to pee. Our scientists that previously said cigarrettes didn't cause cancer also said it wasn't possible."

From what I've read the texts are normal new englander fuck my boss messages

McNally: Tom sucks...im going make that next ball a f----- balloon

Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done

Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though

Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn... The refs f----- us...a few of then were at almost 16

Jastremski: They didnt recheck then after they put air in them

McNally: F--- tom ...16 is nothing...wait till next sunday

Jastremski: Omg! Spaz

So Tom was bitching that the refs overinflated the balls and told the guy to check them, Tom was right then the guy jokes that hes gonna overinflate it just to piss him off. Don't understand how this is even included in here.

There really isn't any evidence in the report at all other than the dude took the balls into the bathroom for a 90-100 seconds. Does anyone know what they said the actual numbers on the balls was? Can't find it anywhere.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 07 2015 03:08 GMT
#742
Ohh hey this science report came form the company that said Asbestos was harmless, cigarettes are harmless, that dumping oil waste was harmless, and that Toyota did nothing wrong when their cars were killing people and has generally be the first choice when you need a science report thats says what you want it to and has been called out for it for years. Shady as fuck
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23885 Posts
May 07 2015 03:23 GMT
#743
On May 07 2015 12:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Ohh hey this science report came form the company that said Asbestos was harmless, cigarettes are harmless, that dumping oil waste was harmless, and that Toyota did nothing wrong when their cars were killing people and has generally be the first choice when you need a science report thats says what you want it to and has been called out for it for years. Shady as fuck


It would of been more credible to just cite Yahoo Answers.

Bill Nye - 1 Bill Belichick- 0 Stick to football and sweatpants old man.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 07 2015 03:26 GMT
#744
On May 07 2015 12:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 12:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Ohh hey this science report came form the company that said Asbestos was harmless, cigarettes are harmless, that dumping oil waste was harmless, and that Toyota did nothing wrong when their cars were killing people and has generally be the first choice when you need a science report thats says what you want it to and has been called out for it for years. Shady as fuck


It would of been more credible to just cite Yahoo Answers.

Bill Nye - 1 Bill Belichick- 0 Stick to football and sweatpants old man.

So the LAtimes is less credible than Yahoo answers? No comment.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23885 Posts
May 07 2015 04:01 GMT
#745
On May 07 2015 12:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 12:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 07 2015 12:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Ohh hey this science report came form the company that said Asbestos was harmless, cigarettes are harmless, that dumping oil waste was harmless, and that Toyota did nothing wrong when their cars were killing people and has generally be the first choice when you need a science report thats says what you want it to and has been called out for it for years. Shady as fuck


It would of been more credible to just cite Yahoo Answers.

Bill Nye - 1 Bill Belichick- 0 Stick to football and sweatpants old man.

So the LAtimes is less credible than Yahoo answers? No comment.


lol I meant for the science (Exponent inc). I'm just trying to stop myself from spamming my patriots fan friend with asterisks

+ Show Spoiler +
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"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
May 07 2015 04:12 GMT
#746
On May 07 2015 12:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 12:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Ohh hey this science report came form the company that said Asbestos was harmless, cigarettes are harmless, that dumping oil waste was harmless, and that Toyota did nothing wrong when their cars were killing people and has generally be the first choice when you need a science report thats says what you want it to and has been called out for it for years. Shady as fuck


It would of been more credible to just cite Yahoo Answers.

Bill Nye - 1 Bill Belichick- 0 Stick to football and sweatpants old man.

The technical portion of the report by Exponent actually confirmed the scientific veracity of everything Belichick said, including the way that their ball rubbing process increases the PSI of the ball. It's actually Bill Nye - 0, Bill Belichick - 1.
Fat chicks need love too.
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
May 07 2015 04:18 GMT
#747
On May 07 2015 13:12 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 12:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 07 2015 12:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Ohh hey this science report came form the company that said Asbestos was harmless, cigarettes are harmless, that dumping oil waste was harmless, and that Toyota did nothing wrong when their cars were killing people and has generally be the first choice when you need a science report thats says what you want it to and has been called out for it for years. Shady as fuck


It would of been more credible to just cite Yahoo Answers.

Bill Nye - 1 Bill Belichick- 0 Stick to football and sweatpants old man.

The technical portion of the report by Exponent actually confirmed the scientific veracity of everything Belichick said, including the way that their ball rubbing process increases the PSI of the ball. It's actually Bill Nye - 0, Bill Belichick - 1.

I think the whole point is that Exponent is right around Emperor Palpatine in their trustworthiness and therefore their "science" can't be cited authoritatively.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
May 07 2015 04:29 GMT
#748
supposedly 3 of the 4 Colts balls they measured were also underinflated
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 07 2015 04:41 GMT
#749
On May 07 2015 13:29 giftdgecko wrote:
supposedly 3 of the 4 Colts balls they measured were also underinflated

So Andrew Luck should get the same theoretical suspension Brady gets, along the colts losing any draft picks that the Patriots might lose? I believe this report about as much as I believe Trumps "report" that Obama is Kenyan.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 07 2015 04:42 GMT
#750
I think Andrew Luck should be forced to play for the team that drafted after the colts to punish the colts
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23885 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 06:02:21
May 07 2015 05:56 GMT
#751
On May 07 2015 13:42 Shellshock wrote:
I think Andrew Luck should be forced to play for the team that drafted after the colts to punish the colts



I think the Seahawks should get the Super Bowl by DQ but I'm a little biased. I think letting him pick a toe to remove is fair.

No but seriously, it can't be the slap on the wrist it should be just because they have a prior, not sure what though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Spiller
Profile Joined September 2014
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 06:35:11
May 07 2015 06:27 GMT
#752
On May 07 2015 11:42 giftdgecko wrote:
LOL, the "report" basically says: "Hey, they texted a bunch after it happened and he talked about getting signed things from Brady for his kids, so he probably did it. Also, I don't think that guy actually had to pee. Our scientists that previously said cigarrettes didn't cause cancer also said it wasn't possible."

From what I've read the texts are normal new englander fuck my boss messages

McNally: Tom sucks...im going make that next ball a f----- balloon

Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done

Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though

Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn... The refs f----- us...a few of then were at almost 16

Jastremski: They didnt recheck then after they put air in them

McNally: F--- tom ...16 is nothing...wait till next sunday

Jastremski: Omg! Spaz

So Tom was bitching that the refs overinflated the balls and told the guy to check them, Tom was right then the guy jokes that hes gonna overinflate it just to piss him off. Don't understand how this is even included in here.

There really isn't any evidence in the report at all other than the dude took the balls into the bathroom for a 90-100 seconds. Does anyone know what they said the actual numbers on the balls was? Can't find it anywhere.



Actually if you read the dates of the texts they were from summer 2014 - end of 2014, so they were before anyone knew anything about the deflation stuff. That's what make it look really bad when he says stuff like, "I'm not going to ESPN...yet" and "come on help the deflator", he obviously knew he was doing something wrong and the public didn't know anything about it yet.

I certainly don't think it affected the outcome of the Colts game in any way, but when the Patriots keep getting caught trying to find new ways to cheat the system, you have to eventually come down on them. Even if in the grand scheme of things deflated balls aren't that big of a deal.

If you actually read the report it is pretty convincing evidence though. The whole more likely than not thing is just legal speak for "we couldn't find anyone literally admitting to it in the texts/evidence" so I don't know why people are harping on that other than the fact that it's easy to make fun of.

Also, I find it curious that the only texts you quoted to make your point are by far the most benign of the ones that were leaked.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 07 2015 06:31 GMT
#753
Couldn't I argue that Tom Brady built a huge amount of his reputation on cold weather performance, and that is what would be most likely to be affected?
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 07 2015 06:39 GMT
#754
This thread has turned into a lesson on how to grasp for straws.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 07 2015 07:33 GMT
#755
Dear god not this again
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 07 2015 08:50 GMT
#756
I'm having a déjà vu:

On April 23 2015 05:32 Teoita wrote:
Why this again

Why

Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 07 2015 09:00 GMT
#757
lol well it IS fucking stupid
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 09:19:02
May 07 2015 09:10 GMT
#758
I love anything to do with the Patriots, Evil Bill and that stud muffin Tom. Brings out the best of NFL fans.

QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
May 07 2015 13:15 GMT
#759
tbh, seeing as im just rooting for chaos with the niners set to look like ass, I'm kind of happy that the dark lord won after most likely cheating.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17466 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:31:21
May 07 2015 16:07 GMT
#760
i guess i'm supposed to get excited about the PSI of footballs... but i just can't
Cheating has been part of the NFL forever.

I just finished reading "Just Win, Baby" and i must say that Al Davis' Oakland Raiders make the Patriots look like catholic school boys. Jack Tatum turns a guy into a quadraplegic on a late hit in a pre-season game.. and we are supposed to view Brady/Bellicheck as evil? umm ya ok.
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