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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
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Last Edited: 2015-10-01 02:16:17
October 01 2015 02:15 GMT
#2421
Cam Newton is the early front runner for this years MVP title
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000542798/article/cam-newton-pushing-panthers-with-mvpcaliber-performance
Heading into the 2015 NFL season, things looked fairly grim for the Carolina Panthers' offense.
Receiver Kelvin Benjamin, coming off a promising rookie season, was lost for the year with a torn ACL in August, leaving an already questionable receiver depth chart looking very shaky. Sure, Carolina had two-time Pro Bowler Cam Newton at quarterback, but aside from tight end Greg Olsen, who was he going to throw to? Untested rookie Devin Funchess? Ted Ginn, who averaged 26 catches and 349 yards over eight previous seasons? Second-year pro Philly Brown, who'd failed to crack the 300-yard mark in 2014? Twelfth-year pro Jerricho Cotchery, who's topped 1,000 yards just once -- in 2007? Former practice-squad player Brenton Bersin? Former Seahawk Kevin Norwood, who'd managed just nine catches for 102 yards as a rookie in 2014?

And yet, Newton and the Panthers are 3-0 and tied for first in the NFC South with the Atlanta Falcons.

Yes, the defense -- which ranks seventh overall -- has played a large role in the team's success. But the fact is, Newton has basically been responsible for all of the Panthers' offense, generating 76 percent of their offensive yards -- 792 of 1,044 -- and seven (five passing, two rushing) of their eight total touchdowns. Despite the lackluster receiving corps, they rank a respectable 16th in total offense. And I think the Panthers' 100 Million Dollar Man has proven himself to be the most valuable player in the NFL -- at least, in terms of value to his team -- through Week 3.

How's he doing it? I've listed five reasons below.
1) He seems to have stepped up as a leader.

When I visited Panthers training camp, I noticed during practices that Newton was taking a much more pronounced role as a team leader than I'd ever seen him take before. He went out of his way to compliment players and point out things guys could do better. When he was a younger guy, it seemed to me that he didn't prioritize that aspect of the quarterback position; it seemed like he felt he could do everything by himself. Ironically, now that he's practically being asked to do it all by the Panthers, Newton seems to see the benefit of trying to bring the team together.

I think we can see this paying off in the way Ted Ginn has performed. When I watched practice, I noticed Newton nurturing a good relationship with Ginn. The receiver doesn't have the best hands in the world, but rather than demonstrating frustration or disappointment when Ginn would drop a pass in practice, Newton would attempt to pump the receiver up, offering support instead of tearing him down. In three games, Ginn has racked up 188 yards -- the second-most receiving yards on the team -- and chipped in a score. A player who is now on his fourth NFL team -- and second stop in Carolina -- is on pace for his first career 1,000-yard season.
2) His work habits are translating to on-field success.

Newton has always had good work habits, but this year, I noticed him staying late after practice to spend time on his footwork with coordinator Mike Shula, in an effort to improve his accuracy. And I think we're seeing it on the field. Yes, his completion rate is 56.6 percent, which would be a career low if it held for the season, but we can't forget about the cast of receivers he's throwing to. Unlike the earlier portion of his career, there's no Steve Smith out there to lean on.

Consider that, according to STATS LLC, Panthers receivers have dropped seven catchable passes, or 11.1 percent of catchable passes -- the fifth-worst percentage in the NFL. If those seven drops had been caught instead, Newton's completion rate would be a much more robust 63.6 percent on the season -- a career high. Plus, according to NFL's Next Gen Stats, the Panthers haven't had a wide receiver finish in the top 25 in terms of distance covered as a ball carrier in a single week this season, though Olsen did rank third in Week 2 and first in Week 3 in that category. Olsen aside, the Panthers' receivers are not running much after the catch -- meaning most of their yardage comes through the air, via Newton's proficiency as a passer, rather than via the catch-and-run plays you'd see in an offense featuring a less capable quarterback.
3) He's better at running the offense.

After a relatively slow season opener -- though he still did enough to help beat the Jaguars -- Newton has ramped up his game. In fact, Sunday's win over the Saints, in which he completed 64.5 percent of his passes for 315 yards and two passing touchdowns against zero interceptions for a rating of 119.7, ranks as one of his better career outings. In general, he seems more confident in his knowledge of both the offense and opposing defenses than he has in the past. He's more than a product of the system. Rather, he seems to understand the system and how to thrive within it. He no longer seems to drop back with no plan, and he's no longer as quick to take off as he once was. He also seems to know how to work around the limitations of his offensive line; he's getting the ball out of his hand more quickly, which has led to him cutting down on his sack rate (his sack percentage of 4.8 this season is much lower than his career mark of 7.2 percent). That's a key factor, as sacks can really devastate an offensive game plan.

The bottom line is, Newton's game seems more refined. Things have slowed down for him. Rather than relying on his athletic ability alone, he's combining those natural skills with his improved knowledge of the game to become a greater threat than he's been before.
4) He's throwing the ball with more touch.

Newton used to be a guy who'd just rear back and throw it hard. But when you're a quarterback like that, sometimes your guys are going to catch the ball, sometimes they aren't. That was OK when Smith was lining up for Carolina, but it won't cut it with most of the receivers on the Panthers' roster today. Newton has started throwing with much more discretion, showing he can dial the velocity up or down as needed.

Consider three plays from Sunday's win over the Saints. On one play, Newton needed to drop the ball in the bucket on a pass to Olsen, and he was able to do just that, connecting with the tight end for a 27-yard pickup in the second quarter. Later on, Newton showed good zip on both of his 11-yard scoring strikes to Olsen. Knowing how -- and when -- to switch from the fastball to the changeup and back again is a crucial skill, one that Newton seems to have honed.
5) He's a smarter, more dangerous runner.

Newton complements his passing prowess with serious rushing abilities. Consider that he's notched two-plus touchdown passes and at least one rushing touchdown in 14 career games, third-most in the NFL since 1960, behind only Steve Young (17) and Fran Tarkenton (16). Of course, he's always been a standout ball carrier, as we saw in his rookie season, when he ran for 14 scores -- still a quarterback record -- and 706 yards. Now, though, he's taking care to run at opportune times, when the defense gives him something. This seems to be a function of his improved command of the offense. His touchdown run on Sunday is a great example of this -- he knew to check out of the play and take off around left end for pay dirt.

The Panthers' sixth-ranked rushing game has leaned heavily on him this season. Newton currently has 144 rushing yards on 31 carries, more yards than any other quarterback in the NFL -- and nearly as many as Carolina running back Jonathan Stewart (170), whom Newton is outpacing in both yards per attempt (Newton has 4.6; Stewart has 3.5) and touchdowns (Newton has two; Stewart has zero). Newton is on pace to finish with 768 rushing yards, which would be a career high. His increased acumen for the game -- along with his improved accuracy, which will compel defenses to be wary of his arm -- makes him a more dangerous runner than he has been at any point in his career.
Conclusion

Every game, all season

This is a one-horse team. Stewart is a decent runner and Olsen is a good pass-catching tight end, but beyond that, the Panthers haven't given Newton much to work with. Carolina's defense is definitely an advantage, as illustrated by Josh Norman's penchant for making clutch interceptions, but the defense can't play quarterback. If it weren't for Newton, this team would struggle to put up 100 yards per game, and there's certainly little chance the Panthers would be undefeated. Tom Brady -- who has put up unreal numbers -- might give Newton a run for his money in terms of being the NFL's MVP through three weeks. But in my mind, Newton has been the more valuable player, especially when you take into account the high level of performance and the extreme dearth of supporting weapons.

Is Newton as good a passer as, say, Aaron Rodgers? No. But I think he's as good a runner as any quarterback in the NFL. When you combine that skill with Newton's improvements as a passer, he's going to be tough to stop. I think the Panthers are going to make the playoffs, and if Newton plays well throughout the season, I could see him building a legitimate case to be the NFL MVP. After all, that award should go to the guy who did the most to lift his team up -- and no one's being asked to do as much lifting as Newton.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 04:53:31
October 01 2015 04:49 GMT
#2422
While I haven't bought into Cam Newton being an elite QB yet, I do think this year he could deliver on his assumed talent. I don't think he'll get it over Aaron Rodgers unless Carolina's O is unstoppable this year. Numbers aren't everything, but compare Rodger's 10 TD 0 INT in the first three games and it makes Cam's 5-2 number look pedestrian. Not too mention Rodgers has faced two harder opponents than Cam has. Across the board Rodgers appears to be better, and he's just as valuable to GB as Cam is to Carolina.

Newton is going to have a lot of bites at the apple but if he doesn't win a SB ring in the next few years, I think the hype train will derail.

Oh, and I do think that Newton being a mobile/running QB will spell his own demise when he gets a few hard hits as he goes for more yards. His legs are almost as important weapons as his arm because it forces the defense into spying schemes to stop him.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 01 2015 05:02 GMT
#2423
I think Rodgers, Brady, Peterson, and Dalton are all ahead of Newton for MVP right now. I'm interested to see Cam's numbers week 5 and 8, against the seahawks and packers.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 01 2015 12:49 GMT
#2424
Julio for MVP. Julio for president.
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
October 01 2015 13:36 GMT
#2425
Why are most posts in here discussing QBs and how good they are to other QBs? There are 52 other guys than the starting QB on every rooster you know... I thoght this was an NFL-Season discussion, about games, news, teams and players rising and falling, coaches making impacts etc, but it just tends to come back to the same old QB rankings :-(
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 01 2015 13:42 GMT
#2426
Everyone list your top 12 long snappers. I had high hopes for Jon Dorenbos coming into the season but he's really let me down.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 01 2015 14:10 GMT
#2427
Obviously Matt Overton is the hottest long snapper atm. The way he read the defense and off-snapped the ball to indicate to McAfee that he should run it was one of the best snaps in recent years.

Michael Vick vs Joe Flacco tonight. Does Vick have enough left in the tank? What does a Pittsburg team look like when it doesn't have a QB who can feed Antonio Brown? Meanwhile top 3 QB Joe Flacco has been playing so well that he makes a 36 year old receiver look good. I'm excited.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 01 2015 14:26 GMT
#2428
tampa bay vs raiders in the superbowl, what do other people think?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 01 2015 15:32 GMT
#2429
On October 01 2015 23:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
tampa bay vs raiders in the superbowl, what do other people think?

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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 01 2015 15:43 GMT
#2430
On October 01 2015 22:36 Slydie wrote:
Why are most posts in here discussing QBs and how good they are to other QBs? There are 52 other guys than the starting QB on every rooster you know... I thoght this was an NFL-Season discussion, about games, news, teams and players rising and falling, coaches making impacts etc, but it just tends to come back to the same old QB rankings :-(


in your honest opinion, who's the best 8th string defensive lineman in the NFL?
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 17:42:49
October 01 2015 17:39 GMT
#2431
On October 01 2015 22:36 Slydie wrote:
Why are most posts in here discussing QBs and how good they are to other QBs? There are 52 other guys than the starting QB on every rooster you know... I thoght this was an NFL-Season discussion, about games, news, teams and players rising and falling, coaches making impacts etc, but it just tends to come back to the same old QB rankings :-(


in your honest opinion, who's the best 8th string defensive lineman in the NFL?


Lineman depth can be crucial, and could be discussed if it is hampering teams late in the season.

Tbh, the NFL website does rankings of every possible kind during the off season, so I have read it too much already. However, I when I read discussions of which QB is "elite" or "top 10" or "top 5" or "worst in the NFL" I just cant believe anyone finds it interresting anymore.. is there really nothing else out there to discuss?
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 01 2015 18:16 GMT
#2432
On October 02 2015 02:39 Slydie wrote:
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On October 01 2015 22:36 Slydie wrote:
Why are most posts in here discussing QBs and how good they are to other QBs? There are 52 other guys than the starting QB on every rooster you know... I thoght this was an NFL-Season discussion, about games, news, teams and players rising and falling, coaches making impacts etc, but it just tends to come back to the same old QB rankings :-(


in your honest opinion, who's the best 8th string defensive lineman in the NFL?


Lineman depth can be crucial, and could be discussed if it is hampering teams late in the season.

Tbh, the NFL website does rankings of every possible kind during the off season, so I have read it too much already. However, I when I read discussions of which QB is "elite" or "top 10" or "top 5" or "worst in the NFL" I just cant believe anyone finds it interresting anymore.. is there really nothing else out there to discuss?


There's plenty to discuss, if you would just try to start a conversation about it... If you're just upset at other people talking about it, then really the issue isn't the topic, it's you isn't it?

I personally think QB discussion is overdone but I also realize that it is the most impacting role on most teams, and you literally can't have a contending team without a good QB. Look at Denver with Tebow, hell look at the Bengals now. Discussing the top RBs could be interesting but how useful is it in this pass-heavy league? What RBs has Tom Brady had behind him in his Superbowl appearances? In this new age they mean almost nothing.
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midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
October 01 2015 19:05 GMT
#2433
Speaking about linemen - Patriots 4th round choices:
OL Shaq Mason OL Tre Jackson are the bomb! Add the rookie free agent C David Andrews to the mix.

Here is a piece from Mike Mayock:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap3000000539122/Low-hanging-fruit-with-Mike-Mayock

I was impressed by their college highlights and now they are delivering big time.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 01 2015 19:27 GMT
#2434
On October 01 2015 23:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
tampa bay vs raiders in the superbowl, what do other people think?


Peyton Manning goes down with an injury. Broncos bring Tebow back. He goes through the Jets, Patriots and Eagles and wins the Superbowl in a run of prayer and forgiveness. Afterwards, a deeply moved Belichick says that his hidden cameras found nothing but virtue and purity in Tebow's heart.

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 22:29:49
October 01 2015 22:26 GMT
#2435
On October 02 2015 04:05 midou wrote:
Speaking about linemen - Patriots 4th round choices:
OL Shaq Mason OL Tre Jackson are the bomb! Add the rookie free agent C David Andrews to the mix.

Here is a piece from Mike Mayock:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap3000000539122/Low-hanging-fruit-with-Mike-Mayock

I was impressed by their college highlights and now they are delivering big time.

I wish we still had Shaq in college this year but I'm glad he's off to a good start in the league

I'm obviously biased but Pats got a steal on him. If he had played at almost any other school and/or been a few inches taller I think he goes much higher in the draft.

On the plus side, Belichick had such good things to say about Shaq's run blocking coming into the league maybe it'll be a good recruiting tool for GT ^^
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 01 2015 22:49 GMT
#2436
It's funny as well that both Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas went to GT. When was the last time you guys actually threw a forward pass?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 22:54:56
October 01 2015 22:54 GMT
#2437
They throw like 10 every game, 5 of those end up in the middle of nowhere and the other 5 are 40+ yards xD i love GT's offense
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 01 2015 23:00 GMT
#2438
On October 02 2015 07:49 andrewlt wrote:
It's funny as well that both Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas went to GT. When was the last time you guys actually threw a forward pass?

Calvin left the year before Paul Johnson came so he played in Chan Gailey's pro style offense. Unfortunately he played with a QB that only completed 48% of his passes in an offense that had Calvin Johnson. In Dermaryius' best year he finished 13th in the NCAA in receiving but only had 46 receptions in 14 games. We don't throw it a lot but you pretty much get single coverage and it's mostly for big gains. 25.1 yards per reception for Demaryius.

We also had 2 more WRs drafted out of GT in the most recent draft (Smelter to the 49ers and Waller to the Ravens). It only takes 1 or 2 solid WRs to make our offense go but they still do have a lot of blocking responsibility even when they're not thrown to a lot. Without their blocking our perimeter run game is pretty shit which is happening this year to GT on top of other issues.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 01 2015 23:03 GMT
#2439
Speaking of GT offense, what a glorious glorious passing game



Hey let's all run the field and hope the safety fucks up. Oh, he did fuck up, yay!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 23:34:47
October 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#2440
On October 02 2015 08:03 Teoita wrote:
Speaking of GT offense, what a glorious glorious passing game

https://youtu.be/7Nmh1zCBlKw?t=5m17s

Hey let's all run the field and hope the safety fucks up. Oh, he did fuck up, yay!

GT set the NCAA team yards per carry record in that game I believe at 12.1
http://espn.go.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=312600059
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My boy Orwin Smith had 265 yards on 5 rushes and 2 receptions. 49 more yards on special teams

Last year they were the best 3rd down offense and most efficient offense since the NCAA and Football outsiders respectively started with those stats
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