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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
December 20 2013 00:40 GMT
#921
Wow this thing(rigged bullshit) killed ixdl in 4 days.After a long time i played mm again (not ranked i m not 13lvl yet) and i already feel sick a luna with maelstrom first item a captain who doesnt pick visage cuz he says visage is not support and a lot of stuff like these, anyway i m stuck in a low mmr and i play with people that are much worst than me, as i read the comments above i worry that if this thing ll continue after the calibration games i ll stuck for ever in shitty games.I tryhard all the time only play cm mode and visage and i abandon if the draft isnt competitive.
So are there any differences between ranked mm and simple mm in the quality of the games?
How close to ixdl is the quality in high ranked games?
If you abandon in draft is it counted as lose in calibration games?
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
December 20 2013 01:31 GMT
#922
You're clearly garbage and people like you are the reason why the dota community is so awful in general. Manner up and focus on improving your own play.n_n
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 20 2013 01:31 GMT
#923
Noone is stuck in shitty games. You should consider playing -AP if all you accept playing is a single hero.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
December 20 2013 01:41 GMT
#924
On December 20 2013 10:31 SKC wrote:
Noone is stuck in shitty games. You should consider playing -AP if all you accept playing is a single hero.



I played my first game of CM, and it was horrible. Dude picked Medusa, Wraith King, Phantom Assassin, Sven, and Invoker for us to play.

Not playing that shit again unless I'm stacking.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 20 2013 01:49 GMT
#925
Something has broken after ranked games introduced. 11 wins and 25 losses over 36 games. Fucking %30 wr. Ranked & unranked mixed. Needless to say, all games including rare wins are stomps. Majority of them are solo queue.
For last 20 games in dotabuff, I manage to win only 5 of them.
I envy guys having fun games...
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
December 20 2013 01:53 GMT
#926
Dunno if linked before, don't want to check whole thread. But here's a really good video for the "ELO hell" aka "I am lower rating than I should be because of teammates."

리노크 👑
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
December 20 2013 02:00 GMT
#927
On December 20 2013 10:49 Laserist wrote:
Something has broken after ranked games introduced. 11 wins and 25 losses over 36 games. Fucking %30 wr. Ranked & unranked mixed. Needless to say, all games including rare wins are stomps. Majority of them are solo queue.
For last 20 games in dotabuff, I manage to win only 5 of them.
I envy guys having fun games...

Pretty much the same for me. I keep queueing thinking "it cant just keep happening"... but then it does.
Living the liefe
ArchmageKruzer
Profile Joined August 2013
64 Posts
December 20 2013 02:55 GMT
#928
I'm kinda feeling guilty right now, because all the games I've had are ranked, cm, and fun. We don't always win, but we always have a good time, our captain listens to our logic during picks/bans, we're supportive, and I haven't had a game yet where at least two people on my team have mics plugged in, or are stacking on skype. We may not play the best, our supports don't ward on the minute, our carries don't get perfect farm, we don't get the perfect ganks, but we are supportive, and noone gets defensive.
ty volvo. whatever mmr boost you gave me, I thank you.
Also, on my calibration games, I'm 4:4
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
December 20 2013 03:01 GMT
#929
I always have fun in solo rank all pick

Change attitude!
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
December 20 2013 05:01 GMT
#930
im 3114. 4-6 in calibration matches with some of the most stupid matches i had for a while. Well. I need to see if I can get out of this trench solo.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
December 20 2013 05:13 GMT
#931
Seems kinda strange, only get marginally more points for a win than a loss.... Which means if valve is enforcing a 50% win ratio across the board, most people will never increase in MMR regardless of their skill increase. They will always face harder opponents until they lose to put them back even.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 05:45:11
December 20 2013 05:41 GMT
#932
Gotta second how I think ranked matchmaking is pretty fun. Been having a good time playing it so far. Went 50-50 in placement matches, got put in 3900 ELO, and I've only encountered one asshole in like 20 games, everyone else has been super fun to play with.

MMR works fine. I'm not fucking expecting to be matched against Puppey or something. I feel very confident that match-making is putting me where I need to be.

You guys need to understand that any change in skill probably happens gradually. With the amount of variance in between the quality of matches due to the natural limitations of an automated matchmaking system in a game like dota, any improvement in MMR will probably take quite a bit of time to occur. Just focus on how you can better your own game in the long run, and shit will get better.

Trust that the fucking wizards at Valve know what they're doing when it comes to designing an MMR system. Unless you think you can code and design the crazy algorithms to deal with the complexities of the problem in this type of system, don't trust your tiny-ass sample size to draw conclusions about how "Volvo doesn't know what they're doing" when it comes to MMR. Trust me, they're paying some smart fucking people to figure that shit out, way smarter than me anyways.

Honestly, as long as your teammates aren't trolling you should be able to have fun. Stop playing to "win" and play to improve your own skills, like good warding, ganking, last hitting, map sense, etc.

That video posted above is pretty much perfect, and sums up my feelings on match-making systems in general.

Edit: also, I find the tag for the poster above me very ironic, in the sentiments it expresses when compared to those expressed in the post.
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
December 20 2013 05:51 GMT
#933
On December 20 2013 14:13 Darpa wrote:
Seems kinda strange, only get marginally more points for a win than a loss.... Which means if valve is enforcing a 50% win ratio across the board, most people will never increase in MMR regardless of their skill increase. They will always face harder opponents until they lose to put them back even.


There is no such thing as enforcing a 50% win ratio in this system or any system.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28096 Posts
December 20 2013 05:55 GMT
#934
On December 20 2013 14:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 14:13 Darpa wrote:
Seems kinda strange, only get marginally more points for a win than a loss.... Which means if valve is enforcing a 50% win ratio across the board, most people will never increase in MMR regardless of their skill increase. They will always face harder opponents until they lose to put them back even.


There is no such thing as enforcing a 50% win ratio in this system or any system.

Well they said specifically their system doesn't enforce a 50-50 ratio, but they have recently explained as to why it can do this on it's own.
Administrator
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 20 2013 06:14 GMT
#935
On December 20 2013 14:13 Darpa wrote:
Seems kinda strange, only get marginally more points for a win than a loss.... Which means if valve is enforcing a 50% win ratio across the board, most people will never increase in MMR regardless of their skill increase. They will always face harder opponents until they lose to put them back even.

Well the point is if you're at where you should be (skill-wise) then the system should have you stay there. If you're better than your current mmr, then you'll win more than you lose.
:)
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
December 20 2013 06:18 GMT
#936
I picked Meepo for my solo ranked. The game was bad. But does picking Meepo in ranked MM make me a b*stard or something?
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
December 20 2013 07:44 GMT
#937
Depends. If you lose you're a bastard thrower, if you win you're dendi_noTail.
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
December 20 2013 08:47 GMT
#938
3500 scrub reporting in!

I really enjoy ranked now, it's more serious than before ranked so maybe i can climb a few rating now.
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 09:11:55
December 20 2013 09:10 GMT
#939
4-1 so far, strangely the only close game is the first loss where I went 24-8-12 as slark.
The next 4 games are one sided stomped and lasted only around 30 minutes.
I guess that first game dropped my MMR way below my normal score

and people counter pick like hell, choose Riki and then instantly Gondar AND Slardar on the other side ... still won though since they have Gondar AND Slardar on their team ...
Put quote here for readability
Yarbleck
Profile Joined June 2010
France233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 09:25:14
December 20 2013 09:25 GMT
#940
I really like ranked game, it is perfect for my playstyle as i tend to play really selflessly always doing what I think is best to win as a team. In ranked at 3k8+ MMR people want to win so i have way more impact in game compared to "random pub farm 40 min into throw."
Since starting ranked I am 12 -5 and 4 of the losses are the first 4 games of me getting back into it after playing way to much hearthstone + somewhat questionable teammates.

Really love ranked it makes me want to play more dota again :3
Ez katka
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