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Ofcourse its too simple but it could work a bit like that. If u are in ELOhell it should not take long to get yourself above 4000 if u are truly better then your rating.
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govie
9334 Posts
Ofcourse its too simple but it could work a bit like that. If u are in ELOhell it should not take long to get yourself above 4000 if u are truly better then your rating. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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govie
9334 Posts
On December 20 2013 19:21 Doraemon wrote: i'm not sure i understand you govie, are you saying you are getting +25 even if you lose? Actually, in 2500 elohell u get more points for winning then losing It seems an average of 28 points for winning and 25 for losing when on a 5-2 ratio. i assume a loss does affect you as hard as in the higher regions. Most progress will be made in the earlier matches of #roadoutofelohell. I know that elo scales and when say, above 4000 u loose more points then u will gain with a win, or thats what i have read. But i typed lets be ignorant and see a positive side to this, If your winrate is above 50% in elohell u are getting out of there pretty fast because u gain more points from 1 win then from 1 loss. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On December 20 2013 19:10 govie wrote: Well to be honest. im getting 25 points per win/loss at 2500. After placement i am 5-2. Lets be ingorant for a brief moment and assume i need to win (4000-2500)/25=60 matches more then i loose to get out of ELOhell, which we assume is above 4000. At the rate i am going atm I should reach this mark in around 60wins more / 3 wins now = 20 multiplier. 20 times 7 matches = 140 games. 21 games a week could get me there in about 2 months time, give or take Ofcourse its too simple but it could work a bit like that. If u are in ELOhell it should not take long to get yourself above 4000 if u are truly better then your rating. i'm 4k+ and it's still elo hell deluxe | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
That's what elo hell is. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
A lot of pros that play support have lower ratings(and winrate) than their teams mid or carry. Quite obvious why, if you solo-q and play support you have less impact. Sure you can gank, and ward and ensure freefarm for you carry and do everything supports do but you can't win the game. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On December 20 2013 19:31 govie wrote: Actually, in 2500 elohell u get more points for winning then losing It seems an average of 28 points for winning and 25 for losing when on a 5-2 ratio. i assume a loss does affect you as hard as in the higher regions. Most progress will be made in the earlier matches of #roadoutofelohell. I know that elo scales and when say, above 4000 u loose more points then u will gain with a win, or thats what i have read. But i typed lets be ignorant and see a positive side to this, If your winrate is above 50% in elohell u are getting out of there pretty fast because u gain more points from 1 win then from 1 loss.I'm 5400 solo, and I so far I've lost an average of 24 per game, and gained an average of 22. Considering that I've only played about 20 ranked games that difference seems negligible. I think the gain/loss is based mainly on the predicted outcome of the match. For example: On average my rating changes by about 23 per game. But when me and my friends met Virtus Pro, we lost only 11 rating, due to them being higher rated. Same thing when we played vs. a stack that were quite a bit lower ranked than us, where we only gained 9 rating. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On December 20 2013 20:35 Alur wrote: I'm 5400 solo, and I so far I've lost an average of 24 per game, and gained an average of 22. Considering that I've only played about 20 ranked games that difference seems negligible. I think the gain/loss is based mainly on the predicted outcome of the match. For example: On average my rating changes by about 23 per game. But when me and my friends met Virtus Pro, we lost only 11 rating, due to them being higher rated. Same thing when we played vs. a stack that were quite a bit lower ranked than us, where we only gained 9 rating. u managed to win vs me after i dc'd u nerd | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On December 20 2013 20:59 ChunderBoy wrote: u managed to win vs me after i dc'd u nerd Alur, stealing dem ratings since dec. 2013  | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On December 20 2013 20:35 Alur wrote: I'm 5400 solo, and I so far I've lost an average of 24 per game, and gained an average of 22. Considering that I've only played about 20 ranked games that difference seems negligible. I think the gain/loss is based mainly on the predicted outcome of the match. For example: On average my rating changes by about 23 per game. But when me and my friends met Virtus Pro, we lost only 11 rating, due to them being higher rated. Same thing when we played vs. a stack that were quite a bit lower ranked than us, where we only gained 9 rating. Seems logical, predictions, points etc Then my theory could still stand. play 21 matches a week with descent play, which means win more then u lose and u end up in higher regions in a fairly short timespan | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On December 20 2013 21:09 govie wrote: Seems logical, predictions, points etc Then my theory could still stand. play 21 matches a week with descent play, which means win more then u lose and u end up in higher regions in a fairly short timespanI seem to be losing exactly as much rating as I gain by winning at 3.5k, so it might be a bit harder than that. | ||
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HarryKlein
Germany220 Posts
Played a cm game against a five man stack including 2 Players of aAa and it was one of the best games I ever had. Everyone just focused on the game, tried really hard and wasnt bitching around when someone missed his spells or died for no reason. Really awesome. | ||
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LennX
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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Thug[ro]
Romania340 Posts
why valve why??? | ||
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FFGenerations
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
(And I'm not even talking about in-game lol). | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
On December 20 2013 20:35 Alur wrote: I'm 5400 solo, and I so far I've lost an average of 24 per game, and gained an average of 22. Considering that I've only played about 20 ranked games that difference seems negligible. I think the gain/loss is based mainly on the predicted outcome of the match. For example: On average my rating changes by about 23 per game. But when me and my friends met Virtus Pro, we lost only 11 rating, due to them being higher rated. Same thing when we played vs. a stack that were quite a bit lower ranked than us, where we only gained 9 rating. So much casual brag in there How expensive is Alurs Boosting Service™? | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On December 20 2013 19:56 hfglgg wrote: You are always in elo hell. That's what elo hell is. just like traffic, it's not that you're IN elo hell, it's that you ARE elo hell. | ||
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KoRDragoon
Sweden63 Posts
WHAT DOES 2997 mean?! is it bad? is it good? Does it matter at all? | ||
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