EPTRanked matchmaking coming to Dota 2 - Page 50
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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts. | ||
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SS.Shark
Canada11 Posts
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TheEmulator
28104 Posts
On December 21 2013 11:59 ChunderBoy wrote: ya it does adopt colour system, but parties sometimes mess it up, my every single game i was on blue or pink. and i was checking other ppl's ratings in my games to check if it does follow it and yeah it does. Yeah, based off a lot of my 5k+ friends opinions they are usually the blue player. tbh I'm usually the blue player too, and I'm just barely under 5k. 5 stacks mess it up though, because in a 5 stack it just orders you in the order of your party from the lobby. So the blue player is whoever made the party. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On December 21 2013 12:26 teddyoojo wrote: i always got mid cuz i always was blue/pink... good old days T_T Does anyone know what colors are what in Dota other than blue is best? | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
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Adrian_mx
Mexico1880 Posts
everygame | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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TheEmulator
28104 Posts
On December 21 2013 17:22 Kuroeeah wrote: whats rmm? if your talking about mmr it varies on your mmr in contrast to your enemy team for each win RMM = Ranked Match Making | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On December 21 2013 17:20 Adrian_mx wrote: How much does the rating for RMM go up ? everygame its looked like it goes up about 20 for a win for me, but i think it differs judging on how the game went | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On December 21 2013 11:59 ChunderBoy wrote: ya it does adopt colour system, but parties sometimes mess it up, my every single game i was on blue or pink. and i was checking other ppl's ratings in my games to check if it does follow it and yeah it does. I'm not sure this is an argument? Do we have a reason to think that someone randomly getting the same relative mmr rating compared to his teammates several games in a row is any more or less likely than them randomly being assigned the same colour several games in a row? What I am trying to say is that even if colour was based on mmr it still doesn't make sense for anyone to be pink/blue more than 20% of the time averaged over many games. | ||
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Manijak
Slovenia112 Posts
at least in higher tiers, in lower tiers you should be blue/pink about 20% as you said | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On December 21 2013 18:13 Targe wrote: its looked like it goes up about 20 for a win for me, but i think it differs judging on how the game went always between 20 and 30 (about 40 games as indicator for me, never had a normal game give or take more or less), but if the games like someone abandons after 10 minutes it will be less. (which can be kinda abusable i guess) | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On December 21 2013 19:52 teddyoojo wrote: always between 20 and 30 (about 40 games as indicator for me, never had a normal game give or take more or less), but if the games like someone abandons after 10 minutes it will be less. (which can be kinda abusable i guess) ive only got 20 for wins and 40 for losses  | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On December 21 2013 12:13 SS.Shark wrote: This is the worst rating system Volvo could come up with. You lose points no matter what when you lose a game. No matter how much you carry a team. Doesnt matter if you end up 21-0 or 0-21. Doesnt matter if you're support and you finish 5-1 and your carry is 0-5. Same crap. And how is this motivating/rewarding players for their efforts ? You still end up in the same queue with the feeders you had in the previous game because you lost the same amount of points and your MMR is the same. Rdiculous If you are genuinely better than the people you get matched with you will win like 70%ish of the games. Otherwise you are stuck on that rating for a reason.. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On December 21 2013 20:42 DrPandaPhD wrote: If you are genuinely better than the people you get matched with you will win like 70%ish of the games. Otherwise you are stuck on that rating for a reason.. maybe if youre a lot better, but if youre just better by say 500 mmr's skill worth then this isnt true. not that i agree with first guy | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On December 21 2013 21:14 Targe wrote: maybe if youre a lot better, but if youre just better by say 500 mmr's skill worth then this isnt true. not that i agree with first guy yes it is. it says that u will win more then u loose if paired to the same 2 teams again. Winn/loss is easy to calculate, skill however is not. I think u should generally not assume mmr means skillrating. Ofcourse for most there will some sort of correlation between the two, but a higher mmr then your friend doesnt say you are more skilled at all, it says your wins-loss ratio is better then that of your friend within the heropool you and he played. I myself would rate someone that plays random in ranked of higher skill then someone that doesnt if they would have around the same mmr. Thats why mmr is fine if its based on win-loss mostly. Because if the samplesize is big enough, u will see a pretty descent and accurate rating to give everyone a nice game of there skilllevel within the size of there heropool they like to play with. Even if they play random, or only 1 hero. MMR isnt there to give u a rating on how good u are compared to others, it exists to give u the most pleasant dotaexperience Valve can offer you, thats something totally different. | ||
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[]Phase[]
Belgium927 Posts
If you play a lot of games, you are going to have games where you can make a big enough impact. If you still can't pull off a win, then that just means you are not ready to go up in the ratings. I've had games where I was doing much better than my allies, but I also had games where I wasen't playing well, but still got carried into a win by my team. So I think it'll all even out in the end. EDIT : I had a lot of losses in my first 10 games, but after that I started focussing on one role, with 3 heroes that fill that role well. Call me tryhard or whatever, but since then my rating has gone slightly up. So you can definately have an impact, even if you feel like you have a lot of shitty teammates. I think the teammate excuse is a lousy one. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On December 21 2013 21:24 govie wrote: yes it is. it says that u will win more then u loose if paired to the same 2 teams again. Winn/loss is easy to calculate, skill however is not. I think u should generally not assume mmr means skillrating. Ofcourse for most there will some sort of correlation between the two, but a higher mmr then your friend doesnt say you are more skilled at all, it says your wins-loss ratio is better then that of your friend within the heropool you and he played. I myself would rate someone that plays random in ranked of higher skill then someone that doesnt if they would have around the same mmr. Thats why mmr is fine if its based on win-loss mostly. Because if the samplesize is big enough, u will see a pretty descent and accurate rating to give everyone a nice game of there skilllevel within the size of there heropool they like to play with. Even if they play random, or only 1 hero. MMR isnt there to give u a rating on how good u are compared to others, it exists to give u the most pleasant dotaexperience Valve can offer you, thats something totally different. youre saying someone whos slightly better can carry his team to a 70% wr every game? right. | ||
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