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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
January 12 2014 20:13 GMT
#1981
Have you ever played LPQ? It's a bigger punishment than being locked out for 1hr or more even. And it's a 5 games endurance test. Before they forced you to play lp I didn't really care about abandons. Now I make sure that I can play and not go afk in the middle of the match. LPQ is horribe.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
January 12 2014 20:38 GMT
#1982
On January 13 2014 05:13 toemn wrote:
Have you ever played LPQ? It's a bigger punishment than being locked out for 1hr or more even. And it's a 5 games endurance test. Before they forced you to play lp I didn't really care about abandons. Now I make sure that I can play and not go afk in the middle of the match. LPQ is horribe.

you also don't get battle points/items
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
January 12 2014 21:33 GMT
#1983
On January 13 2014 05:12 r.Evo wrote:
I'm pretty sure the initial idea of LPQ was that people would otherwise just keep making new accounts since this game is F2P and all. Since this still rings true for normal games as long as people are kept out of ranked for some duration it's fine I guess.

Initially LPQ also used actual timer, not ingame time, so it didn't solve the problem of people making new accounts anyway. LPQ is better now compared to the old time, but since the pool is also growing, it doesn't really do anything much I think.


On January 13 2014 05:13 toemn wrote:
Have you ever played LPQ? It's a bigger punishment than being locked out for 1hr or more even. And it's a 5 games endurance test. Before they forced you to play lp I didn't really care about abandons. Now I make sure that I can play and not go afk in the middle of the match. LPQ is horribe.


Because of the unstable connection in SEA, I usually play LPQ with my friends. There're no difference between that and normal queue. I still play with/against people with the same MMR, people still rage/do stupid stuff like in normal queue. not gaining xp is not that big of a deal.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 12 2014 23:29 GMT
#1984
Terrible weekend for Dota. Playing against some folks that are just plain better and some really good drafts in CM. That and people not understanding "yo, get a BKB, they have luna and you don't want to deal with that shit."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
January 12 2014 23:39 GMT
#1985
So, i just lost 1 game, as dazzle, and i dropped 500 points

awesome
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 12 2014 23:40 GMT
#1986
On January 13 2014 08:39 Adron wrote:
So, i just lost 1 game, as dazzle, and i dropped 500 points

awesome


lol what? pic please

sounds pretty bad
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
January 12 2014 23:49 GMT
#1987
was 3650 now 3100...i can show the rank now, but not the one i had, didnt rly expect it. wasnt even a horrible game, warded alot, saved people etc

tho bloodseeker was farmed n 4 shotted me at the10th minute mark :s
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 12 2014 23:52 GMT
#1988
Match history will slow the drop on your profile.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
January 13 2014 00:11 GMT
#1989
On January 13 2014 05:38 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 05:13 toemn wrote:
Have you ever played LPQ? It's a bigger punishment than being locked out for 1hr or more even. And it's a 5 games endurance test. Before they forced you to play lp I didn't really care about abandons. Now I make sure that I can play and not go afk in the middle of the match. LPQ is horribe.

you also don't get battle points/items


Just play co-op bot match on easy level. Make sure your team gets push heroes and go all mid. You can easily win 5 games in about an hour so it's not that bad.

Surprised some people still don't know about this
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 13 2014 00:59 GMT
#1990
On January 13 2014 09:11 BlueRoyaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 05:38 CountChocula wrote:
On January 13 2014 05:13 toemn wrote:
Have you ever played LPQ? It's a bigger punishment than being locked out for 1hr or more even. And it's a 5 games endurance test. Before they forced you to play lp I didn't really care about abandons. Now I make sure that I can play and not go afk in the middle of the match. LPQ is horribe.

you also don't get battle points/items


Just play co-op bot match on easy level. Make sure your team gets push heroes and go all mid. You can easily win 5 games in about an hour so it's not that bad.

Surprised some people still don't know about this

Yeah just storm down mid, make sure the game lasts at least 5 minutes, kill a bot to be safe, repeat and it won't even take an hour.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 13 2014 07:52 GMT
#1991
On January 13 2014 04:14 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 03:59 poorcloud wrote:
played 7 or games today and i had like abandons on my team for 3 games????

Really feel like abandoning games should be punished more heavily especially for ranked mmr


They are. I think you get into LPQ after a single ranked abandon, not sure if there's an additional rating penalty though.


no you dont, i ragequittet a game yesterday after a 10 games losing spree or so and wasnt put into LPQ.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 18:55:28
January 13 2014 18:53 GMT
#1992
I got LPQ for one internet crash the other day after having stable internet for weeks

Also for those wondering, Aui doesn't stream anymore because he changed net and he now gets packet loss and lag in-game while streaming (although his stream works apparently, maybe QoS issues?)
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-FmP-
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada85 Posts
January 13 2014 20:02 GMT
#1993
On January 13 2014 08:49 Adron wrote:
was 3650 now 3100...i can show the rank now, but not the one i had, didnt rly expect it. wasnt even a horrible game, warded alot, saved people etc

tho bloodseeker was farmed n 4 shotted me at the10th minute mark :s


calling bullshit on this

screenshot of match history please
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
January 13 2014 20:03 GMT
#1994
I would assume its QoS. He should contact his ISP and get that shit figured out!
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
January 13 2014 20:11 GMT
#1995
So, I have a pretty bad solo ranking (~2500) but I'm really trying to improve and I feel like I'm getting fucked by team comp quite a lot. Like for the past 10 games or so, we are in the lobby, I select a hero (not confirmed yet) and position myself on the map where I'd like to be. I wait a bit to see if other people do the same, maybe try to talk about what we would need and what people want to play. And usually get zero answers. And then, when the timeout expires, it seems like everybody goes back from afk and select their favorites carries without even looking what the team comp is. If I've already confirmed a carry, congratulation, we now have a 5 carries team and we get stomped. If not, that's still a 4 carries 1 support team and the game is hard. And no kidding, this happens 4 games out of 5.

First question is: is there anything I can do against that? I'd really like to up my ranking a bit because I'm sure people don't play like that at higher levels.
And secondly, is there a hero I can pick quickly that's pretty descent no matter what my allies chose and that I will be able to make the most off ? (I've already seen the Lycan thread and it's good but I'd like other suggestions).
Heroes I usually play: Luna, weaver, prophet, enchantress, CM, shadow shaman.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 20:19:20
January 13 2014 20:19 GMT
#1996
On January 14 2014 05:11 Merany wrote:
So, I have a pretty bad solo ranking (~2500) but I'm really trying to improve and I feel like I'm getting fucked by team comp quite a lot. Like for the past 10 games or so, we are in the lobby, I select a hero (not confirmed yet) and position myself on the map where I'd like to be. I wait a bit to see if other people do the same, maybe try to talk about what we would need and what people want to play. And usually get zero answers. And then, when the timeout expires, it seems like everybody goes back from afk and select their favorites carries without even looking what the team comp is. If I've already confirmed a carry, congratulation, we now have a 5 carries team and we get stomped. If not, that's still a 4 carries 1 support team and the game is hard. And no kidding, this happens 4 games out of 5.

First question is: is there anything I can do against that? I'd really like to up my ranking a bit because I'm sure people don't play like that at higher levels.
And secondly, is there a hero I can pick quickly that's pretty descent no matter what my allies chose and that I will be able to make the most off ? (I've already seen the Lycan thread and it's good but I'd like other suggestions).
Heroes I usually play: Luna, weaver, prophet, enchantress, CM, shadow shaman.

Just do your best and don't get angry. I am at 3.7 and people still do that there. Just do your thing and hope for the best
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 13 2014 20:20 GMT
#1997
Viper can fill a lot of roles and plays well kinda regardless of what your teammates pick. You win 95% of 1v1 lanes, support pretty well, and can easily carry with farm. Build is traditionally 1-1-1 into max whatever you need (q for ganks, w for lasthitting/farming, e for teamfights where you get focussed), GET MEK ASAP and just kinda win because nobody can fight you and nobody is smart enough to TP away and nobody carries TP's to TP in either.

Be aware that there are morons who do garbage stuff for the next 3000 mmr (no kidding 5500 people do shit like naga mid that will make you mad even though they are insanely good at dota) so you aren't getting above it lol. Don't forget that for each time your team sucks and has awful picks, your enemies will at some point be the same way. If getting on the mic and trying to organize a smart draft doesn't work, then its pretty safe to say your opponents aren't gonna be doing much smart either.

Realistically, at 2500 mmr work on stuff like lasthitting as a carry/mid player, pulling and smoke-ganking as a support, and in general just being more efficient than your enemies (who obviously are pretty awful considering they are around 2500MMR). I know a lot of people like to play heroes like furion (and lycan as you mentioned) at that level and simply out-farm the enemy.
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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 20:25:25
January 13 2014 20:21 GMT
#1998
There's no way to make the game not a 5v5, but every one of those heroes is impactful and relatively team-independent. That's slightly less true of Luna - if you're sharing farm in lane life might be hard - but otherwise your current hero pool isn't a problem.

My most reliable hero for wins has always been CM. Especially at low levels, just carrying a TP and counterganking makes a massive difference, and there's never a time where you've got nothing to do, as CM can roam / woods / babysit all very easily. AND your mana aura helps circumvent the problems that would normally arise for people with shitty builds and constantly no mana.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
ILoveCoffee
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia164 Posts
January 13 2014 20:37 GMT
#1999
Does anybody have any idea what percentiles the MMRs correspond to? I find MMR to be much more meaningful if you have something to refer it to.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 13 2014 20:48 GMT
#2000
On January 14 2014 05:37 ILoveCoffee wrote:
Does anybody have any idea what percentiles the MMRs correspond to? I find MMR to be much more meaningful if you have something to refer it to.

I recommend reading the OP, its traditionally a good thing to do.
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