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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22198 Posts
February 26 2014 22:20 GMT
#1501
Its boasting pure and simple.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 07:43:45
February 27 2014 06:21 GMT
#1502
Some armed individuals (around 30 of them) have entered Crimea parliment.

Edit: Shots fired. Ukrainian flag replaced with Russian.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 27 2014 08:23 GMT
#1503
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26364891

The men have not yet made any demands or issued any statements but did put up a sign saying "Crimea is Russia.".

AP reported that they threw a flash grenade in response to a journalist's questions.

lol
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 09:08:47
February 27 2014 09:08 GMT
#1504
Russia says it will defend the rights of its compatriots and will 'uncompromisingly' react to any violation of those rights, foreign ministry says - @Reuters

Russia's foreign ministry says 'large-scale human rights violations,' attacks and vandalism in Ukraine are a cause for concern - @Reuters

Photo: Russian flag raised over Crimean parliament building - @BSpringnote

Russia puts fighter jets on its western border on combat alert, defense ministry says - Interfax via @Reuters

Ukraine's acting president calls on Russian forces in Crimea not to leave naval base - @AP

Ukraine's acting president tells Russian military that troop movements outside Black Sea Fleet base in Crimea would be an act of aggression - @Reuters
Yes im
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 09:23:18
February 27 2014 09:22 GMT
#1505
Sounds like what usually happens with North Korea doing some weird shit and spontaneous US-South Korean trainings.
So boring stuff, but everyone likes to show off a bit and pretends to be supermegaawesome.

Btw:
as it wasnt mentioned: Berkut was dissolved yesterday by the new minister of internal affairs. Well.. they ould have been useful now!
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
February 27 2014 09:27 GMT
#1506
#German defence minister says concerned about events in #Crimea, breakup of #Ukraine must be avoided”

AndersFogh Rasmussen ‏@AndersFoghR 2 min
I'm concerned about developments in #Crimea. I urge #Russia not to take any action that can escalate tension or create misunderstanding
Yes im
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 09:49:57
February 27 2014 09:43 GMT
#1507
On February 27 2014 18:22 mahrgell wrote:
Sounds like what usually happens with North Korea doing some weird shit and spontaneous US-South Korean trainings.
So boring stuff, but everyone likes to show off a bit and pretends to be supermegaawesome.

Btw:
as it wasnt mentioned: Berkut was dissolved yesterday by the new minister of internal affairs. Well.. they ould have been useful now!

If there is a junta in power bringing authoritarian laws, violating minority rights and freedom of speech you don't sit around and dwindle your thumbs. Whatever is happening now in Crimea and the push for federalization in the rest of the eastern half of the country is solely the fault of the junta in Kiev right now.

If the junta starts murdering people that don't share their ultra-nationalist views it is the responsibility of Russia and the EU to intervene and give the power back to the people. The 150k soldiers on the border keep the junta in check.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
February 27 2014 09:56 GMT
#1508
This shit won't be easy to solve, i hope that Russians will back off, eventually.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 27 2014 10:08 GMT
#1509
Like they did in South Ossetia and Abkhazia and Transnistria, lol.

Fortunately, the current technocratic government shows no inclination to respond to those provocations. With the EU and US advising them, I'm hoping they'll continue to do so.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 27 2014 10:17 GMT
#1510
On February 27 2014 18:22 mahrgell wrote:
Sounds like what usually happens with North Korea doing some weird shit and spontaneous US-South Korean trainings.
So boring stuff, but everyone likes to show off a bit and pretends to be supermegaawesome.

Btw:
as it wasnt mentioned: Berkut was dissolved yesterday by the new minister of internal affairs. Well.. they ould have been useful now!

If I understand things correctly Russia is making these moves to defend the Russian speaking population of Ukraine, so comparing it to NK/SK might not be a smart move.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the majority of a certain area is Russian speaking (aka eastern Ukraine) they have all the rights in the world to be protected of the Ukrainian speaking population of the west, assuming they feel threatened and/or not represented in their parliament.

At the very least I find it really, really hard to argue against the Russians being the "good guys" here.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
February 27 2014 10:20 GMT
#1511
On February 27 2014 19:17 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 18:22 mahrgell wrote:
Sounds like what usually happens with North Korea doing some weird shit and spontaneous US-South Korean trainings.
So boring stuff, but everyone likes to show off a bit and pretends to be supermegaawesome.

Btw:
as it wasnt mentioned: Berkut was dissolved yesterday by the new minister of internal affairs. Well.. they ould have been useful now!

If I understand things correctly Russia is making these moves to defend the Russian speaking population of Ukraine, so comparing it to NK/SK might not be a smart move.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the majority of a certain area is Russian speaking (aka eastern Ukraine) they have all the rights in the world to be protected of the Ukrainian speaking population of the west, assuming they feel threatened and/or not represented in their parliament.

At the very least I find it really, really hard to argue against the Russians being the "good guys" here.


the south is Russian

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Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
February 27 2014 10:33 GMT
#1512
Yanukovych:

"I, Viktor Yanukovych, address the Ukrainian nation. I still consider myself to be the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state, elected by the free will of the Ukrainian citizens," is said in the appeal of Yanukovych, which was received by Interfax on Thursday.


http://interfax.com.ua/news/political/193118.html
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 27 2014 10:43 GMT
#1513
On February 27 2014 19:17 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 18:22 mahrgell wrote:
Sounds like what usually happens with North Korea doing some weird shit and spontaneous US-South Korean trainings.
So boring stuff, but everyone likes to show off a bit and pretends to be supermegaawesome.

Btw:
as it wasnt mentioned: Berkut was dissolved yesterday by the new minister of internal affairs. Well.. they ould have been useful now!

If I understand things correctly Russia is making these moves to defend the Russian speaking population of Ukraine, so comparing it to NK/SK might not be a smart move.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the majority of a certain area is Russian speaking (aka eastern Ukraine) they have all the rights in the world to be protected of the Ukrainian speaking population of the west, assuming they feel threatened and/or not represented in their parliament.

At the very least I find it really, really hard to argue against the Russians being the "good guys" here.


That's nonsense. Being russian-speaking gives no rights of any kind. I don't see Germany sending its troops around the globe every time some foreigner who has learned German is imperilled.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
February 27 2014 10:59 GMT
#1514
On February 27 2014 19:17 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 18:22 mahrgell wrote:
Sounds like what usually happens with North Korea doing some weird shit and spontaneous US-South Korean trainings.
So boring stuff, but everyone likes to show off a bit and pretends to be supermegaawesome.

Btw:
as it wasnt mentioned: Berkut was dissolved yesterday by the new minister of internal affairs. Well.. they ould have been useful now!

If I understand things correctly Russia is making these moves to defend the Russian speaking population of Ukraine, so comparing it to NK/SK might not be a smart move.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the majority of a certain area is Russian speaking (aka eastern Ukraine) they have all the rights in the world to be protected of the Ukrainian speaking population of the west, assuming they feel threatened and/or not represented in their parliament.

At the very least I find it really, really hard to argue against the Russians being the "good guys" here.

I don't get how anyone can construe the role the Russians have been playing in this entire process as being the 'good guys'. Let's remember they were the ones pushing for shooting more protestors.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10871 Posts
February 27 2014 11:18 GMT
#1515
Yeah, but they are most likely also not the cunning devils that the western media tries to make out of them.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 11:54:29
February 27 2014 11:53 GMT
#1516
Nothing cunning here, Standard Russian tactics. They have been doing this for quite some time now. Its still effective though (as this thread clearly demonstrate).
Pathetic Greta hater.
Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 12:13:59
February 27 2014 12:11 GMT
#1517
Euromaidan its terorists with guns/Berkut are real Heroes
Kiev
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 12:21:46
February 27 2014 12:21 GMT
#1518
It's like an attack by zombies, but instead of the stench of death, you recognize them by their poor spelling and insubstantial arguments.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
February 27 2014 12:40 GMT
#1519
On February 27 2014 21:11 Gamlet wrote:
Euromaidan its terorists with guns/Berkut are real Heroes


finally words of wisdom
Pure fan
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
February 27 2014 13:04 GMT
#1520
Sign of true heroes: Using sniper rifles to shoot the heads/necks of unarmed young women in white, with red crosses painted on their bodies, who are doing nothing other than trying to help the wounded.
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