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On April 07 2014 02:10 DrCooper wrote: Also, the last time Germany send large amounts of troops to east east europe it turned out pretty bad for everyone involved. Really, gonna bring up 75 years old shit? Especially when there is no indication that Germany is on a road to build 4th reich? Or was it a joke?
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It seems Ukraine is close to losing more territory soon. Crimean scenario in Donetsk.
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http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-04/putin-s-rejection-of-the-west-in-writing
Now, Putin is planning to put the intellectual and ideological foundations of the new regime into words.
A document called "Foundations of the State Cultural Policy" has been under development since 2012. A special working group under Putin's chief of staff Sergei Ivanov will soon roll it out for a month of "public debate" before Putin gets to sign it. Quotes from the culture ministry's draft, presumably the basis for the final one, have leaked out.
"Russia must be viewed as a unique and original civilization that cannot be reduced to 'East' or 'West,'" reads the document, signed by Deputy Culture Minister Vladimir Aristarkhov. "A concise way of formulating this stand would be, 'Russia is not Europe,' and that is confirmed by the entire history of the country and the people."
Russia's non-European path should be marked by "the rejection of such principles as multiculturalism and tolerance," according to the draft. "No references to 'creative freedom' and 'national originality' can justify behavior considered unacceptable from the point of view of Russia's traditional value system." That, the document stresses, is not an infringement on basic freedoms but merely the withdrawal of government support from "projects imposing alien values on society."
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Because if you're in the right building, it makes it legitimate...
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This is one way to combat blatant desinformation:
A Vilnius court on Monday satisfied a request by the Radio and Television Commission of Lithuania and sanctioned a ban on broadcasts of Russian TV channel RTR Planeta for three months. Source.
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Ukraine government has to put this down before the Russians do this in more provinces than just Donetsk. You can't let your neighbors freely carve off parts of your country.
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On April 07 2014 21:42 PaleMan wrote: what goverment?
I agree with PaleMan.
Russia should topple all of Ukraine's region's with agent provateurs, because I do not respect the soverignty of 21st century democratic peoples.
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On April 07 2014 21:42 PaleMan wrote: what goverment? Is your comment directed toward their lack of response to Russian provocation or are you questioning the legitimacy of the government itself?
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He is trolling as always. He just wants attention.
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Is that independent republic of Donetsk thing serious? I guess it's just another provocation in style of that hilarious proposition to partition Ukraine between Hungary, Poland, Romania and Russia but I'm not an expert in Russian humour
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Good job Russia! You managed to bring a peacefull country on a brink of a civil war.
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On April 07 2014 21:55 Saryph wrote:Is your comment directed toward their lack of response to Russian provocation or are you questioning the legitimacy of the government itself?
latter
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On April 07 2014 22:07 mdb wrote: Good job Russia! You managed to bring a peacefull country on a brink of a civil war.
oh i thought its all started with Euromaida?
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On April 07 2014 22:11 PaleMan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 22:07 mdb wrote: Good job Russia! You managed to bring a peacefull country on a brink of a civil war. oh i thought its all started with Euromaida? Ah, no. It started with a liar president who promised something and did not keep his promise.
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On April 07 2014 22:07 mdb wrote: Good job Russia! You managed to bring a peacefull country on a brink of a civil war. Euromaidan brought the country on the brink of a civil war. This thread is called the Euromaidan thread because everything happening now in the Ukraine is a direct result of the actions of Euromaidan and the collapse of civil society it brought with it.
On April 07 2014 22:42 Roman666 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 22:11 PaleMan wrote:On April 07 2014 22:07 mdb wrote: Good job Russia! You managed to bring a peacefull country on a brink of a civil war. oh i thought its all started with Euromaida? Ah, no. It started with a liar president who promised something and did not keep his promise. You mean this? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26289318
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i see, it's all Russia's fault
i hear a lot of this from some ukrainians: you had a bad day - blame Russia you president is thief - blame Russia you did a coup d'etat - blame Russia it went wrong - blame Russia 23 years of independence and your country is in ruins - blame Russia
i guess someone should start blaming himself - this will be the 1st step in the right direction
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Jesus... Its so sad that many russians are so bitter about the fact that the ukrainian people had the balls to do what russians wish they could have done themselfs
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On April 07 2014 22:53 PaleMan wrote: i see, it's all Russia's fault
i hear a lot of this from some ukrainians: you had a bad day - blame Russia you president is thief - blame Russia you did a coup d'etat - blame Russia it went wrong - blame Russia 23 years of independence and your country is in ruins - blame Russia
i guess someone should start blaming himself - this will be the 1st step in the right direction You forgot one: Your country was invaded - blame Russia.
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Hahaha, if only TL threads would always have the power to sway world politics just by giving the right title :D
Looks like Ukraine is handling these provocations well:
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