Ukraine Crisis - Page 274

On March 12 2014 07:29 nunez wrote:


according to nuland us has spent over 5 billion dollars on shaping ukraine politics to their liking since 1991, dunno what the ruskis tally is.

Putin said it’s not his troops who are surrounding Ukrainian army installations. Yet Bochkarev, the Simferopol commander, said Russian involvement is key.

“The fact that our Russian brothers are here gives us a 100 percent confidence,” Bochkarev said.

Between Sevastopol and Simferopol, cars stop at a militia checkpoint. Men in camouflage gear open trunks and scrutinize documents, while women cook in a nearby tent. A banner says: “Russia is the cemetery for ideas that are conceived by evil.”

On March 12 2014 08:20 Cheerio wrote:

quote?

In its current form the referendum regarding Crimea scheduled for March 16, 2014, is in contradiction with the Ukrainian Constitution and must be considered illegal, Swiss Foreign Minister and OSCE Chair Didier Burkhalter said.

For any referendum regarding the degree of autonomy or sovereignty of the Crimea to be legitimate, it would need to be based on the Ukrainian constitution and would have to be in line with international law, he said. In that context, Burkhalter called upon all actors to refrain from supporting unconstitutional activities.

The Chair also ruled out the possibility of an OSCE observation of the planned referendum of March 16 as the basic criteria for a decision in a constitutional framework was not met. Furthermore, an invitation by the participating State concerned would be a precondition to any observation activity in this regard.
Source.

Since its independence in 1991, the American people have supported Ukraine’s transition to democracy and a free market economy with over $5 billion in assistance. In FY2013, our assistance topped $100 million, and much of it went to help Ukraine meet European standards in law enforcement, electoral reform, business climate and the judicial sector, including key support for Ukraine’s newly adopted Criminal Procedure Code. If Ukraine meets the EU’s conditions and signs in Vilnius, it will be able to export its goods to the largest single market in the world, tariff-free, by early 2014. This should provide a great stimulus to an economy which has been in a difficult recession for over a year. In the past few months, Ukraine has come under pressure from Russia, including bans on chocolate, stoppage of refrigerated goods at the border, and reductions in other key imports. We are working with the EU on options to help Ukraine make difficult trade adjustments and weather the EU implementation period if Ukraine makes the political decisions necessary to sign its AA at Vilnius.

On March 12 2014 08:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I'm just curious.
Okay, let's say, referendum is happened, Crimea is de facto part of Russia. De jure it's part of Ukraine, even if autonomic. AFAIK OFC. I really don't know details.

What happen next? Years of useless whine from both sides? Because i barely can believe that there is at least 1% chance that war will occure because of Ukraine.

On March 12 2014 08:35 Cheerio wrote:



well, thanks US I guess.

On March 12 2014 08:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I'm just curious.
Okay, let's say, referendum is happened, Crimea is de facto part of Russia. De jure it's part of Ukraine, even if autonomic. AFAIK OFC. I really don't know details.

What happen next? Years of useless whine from both sides? Because i barely can believe that there is at least 1% chance that war will occure because of Ukraine.

Without Crimea, Ukraine looks set to lose an important piece of its economic and energy future: valuable undersea oil and gas fields that lie just offshore the Crimean peninsula. Exploiting those Black Sea fields could help reduce Ukraine’s dependence on Russian gas imports.

Ukraine has estimated that oil and gas production from Skifska, along with another Crimean offshore area known as Foros, could reach the energy equivalent of up to 7 million tons of oil annually. That’s less than 10 percent of the oil and gas Norway extracts annually from beneath the North Sea. Still, it totals about 20 percent of Ukraine’s current annual gas imports, which come mainly from Russia and have been a longstanding source of friction between the two countries.

On March 12 2014 09:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:


Once fucking again for retards.
Abkhazia, South Ossetia and ESPECIALLY Transdnistria aren't parts of Russia.
You can call them as "Zones of influence", but no more.

Kyrgyzstan's Foreign Ministry says ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych cannot be considered the legitimate leader of the country.

In a statement issued March 11, the Foreign Ministry said the current crisis in Ukraine was caused by corruption and wrong decisions by the former authorities of that country when Yanukovych was president.
Source.

On March 12 2014 10:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:


Can we just swap Kyrgyzes from Moscow for Russian population there just to free some working slots here, save someone from being killed/being on drugs/burglared and make situation peaceful?
Honestly.

Let's just live in peace.

Russians based in London – or oligarchs in Moscow who base their assets in London – will be exempt from sanctions because they are not linked to the "infringements".

So far, none of the measures being publicly discussed would pose a major threat to Exxon’s operations in Russia. Leaders in the U.S. have given no indications that they are willing to impose sanctions on Russia comparable to those they have imposed for countries like Iran, which prohibit doing business with a hostile regime.