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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On March 02 2014 06:47 r.Evo wrote: UK tl;dr: Concerned with sovereignty of Ukraine, supports new Ukrainian government, Russia should calm down. It seems like only the UK acts reasonably so far. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
On March 02 2014 06:48 darkness wrote: It seems like only the UK acts reasonably so far. All of these statements by individual Western governments have been worked out with each other beforehand; the US/UK/France know and approve of what Germany is going to say, Germany/UK/France know what the US is going to say and approves, etc. etc. They're on the phone with each other 24/7 right now. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:15 Twoflowers wrote: Does anyone here know how far the crimean autonomy goes? Could they request russian assistance or a referendum for independence on their own? No. They can't have any foreign policy on their own, and only all-Ukrainian referendums can be held according to the Constitution. | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
USA asking for international observers and sending of diplomatic envoy to Crimea. The rest seems relatively inocuous. France calling for a dialogue not from another age (unmistakable talking about the world wars). Ukraines neighbors and France/UK/EU involvement in Ukraine is called for by France. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
"We want to find peaceful way to solve situation in Ukraine" | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On March 02 2014 06:52 radiatoren wrote: US primary point: "actions speak larger than words" USA asking for international observers and sending of diplomatic envoy to Crimea. The rest seems relatively inocuous. France calling for a dialogue not from another age (unmistakable talking about the world wars). Ukraines neighbors and France/UK/EU involvement in Ukraine is called for by France. The US statement was slightly awkward imo, to me it came across as "You're always bitching at us in here when we do this kind of shit (and we get away with it anyway) and now you do it yourselves wtf?" =P | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On March 02 2014 06:53 r.Evo wrote: The US statement was slightly awkward imo, to me it came across as "You're always bitching at us in here when we do this kind of shit (and we get away with it anyway) and now you do it yourselves wtf?" =P Russias representative seemed very riled up and to some degree US statement seemed to mirror that (I suspect they have been discussing loudly before the camera was turned on). UK and France seemed like more or less canned statements. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
On March 02 2014 06:53 r.Evo wrote: The US statement was slightly awkward imo, to me it came across as "You're always bitching at us in here when we do this kind of shit (and we get away with it anyway) and now you do it yourselves wtf?" =P That's because other than Iraq all the times the peanut gallery has bitched at the US the US has had Europe on its side. The US has done it and gotten away with it once since the UN was created, Russia's done it over a dozen times since 1945. Most of those were back when the hammer and sickle were flying but it's still Russia. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On March 02 2014 06:43 DeepElemBlues wrote: I guess next time America wants to invade a country it'll just pass a law saying it's protecting Americans in that country and everything will be fine, right? Right? Bueller? Russia should have used the old 'Ukraine has weapons of mass destruction' | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:29 PaleMan wrote: >Being installed at gunpoint by a bunch of guys who took over government buildings is not legitimate in any way whatsoever he was removed by a bunch of guys who took over government buildings so maybe it is proper way to install him back there was only one incident when armed men entered the Parliament, and those were angry police officers before they were forced to leave very quickly. And the Paliament has always been swarmed by reporters. Yanukovich was impeached, deal with it. | ||
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Kamille
Monaco1035 Posts
On March 02 2014 07:00 zeo wrote: Russia should have used the old 'Ukraine has weapons of mass destruction' That only gives them the ability to invade. Protecting American citizens includes annexation of territory and all the juicy economic benefits that entails. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
On March 02 2014 07:00 zeo wrote: Russia should have used the old 'Ukraine has weapons of mass destruction' If only they still did. Your "anti"-fascist hero Putin wouldn't have dared lift a finger. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On March 02 2014 07:02 Kamille wrote: That only gives them the ability to invade. Protecting American citizens includes annexation of territory and all the juicy economic benefits that entails. Where do Americans have a serious diaspora? Maybe Mexico? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 02 2014 07:07 zeo wrote: Where do Americans have a serious diaspora? Maybe Mexico? Just some communities in Mexico. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5861 Posts
On March 02 2014 07:07 zeo wrote: Where do Americans have a serious diaspora? Maybe Mexico? Israel.  | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
Mexico has a diaspora in America, not the other way around. If you wanna take a dim suspicious view of things: America comes in, maybe sets up a puppet government, and has some corporations make some money. But they always leave after awhile, and any government they propped up will be abandoned to its fate. | ||
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