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On August 13 2013 01:01 BisuDagger wrote: I'd be pissed if I had Dendi on my team in that finals game too. XBOST knows his teammates are no Nature's Prophet TP spam.
Fixed that for you
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United States47024 Posts
On August 13 2013 00:47 Warri wrote: He does look pissed in the videos, but i dont know why he would be pissed at kuro. Puppey drafted "cute" stuff that didnt work out. This is the difference between the old Na'Vi and the new Na'Vi.
Puppey doesn't just draft "cute" stuff. He drafts what he believes will win. The only flaw is that sometimes this is independent of what Na'Vi's comfort zone is, but with the old Na'Vi this worked because quite simply, LightOfHeaven and Ars-Art had the breadth and the experience to play whatever Puppey wanted them to play.
Funn1k and Kuro don't have this breadth, at least, not yet. They have a pretty clearly defined comfort zone with regard to what they can play well. This causes issues even with regard to some popular heroes, such as Funn1k's lackluster performance on Batrider in the finals. In game 4, Burning was saying on the Chinese stream that Na'Vi should have an almost guaranteed win from the draft, but later attributed the loss almost entirely to Funn1k.
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On August 13 2013 01:12 ymir233 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 01:01 BisuDagger wrote: I'd be pissed if I had Dendi on my team in that finals game too. XBOST knows his teammates are no Nature's Prophet TP spam. Fixed that for you 
That's bullshit and you know it.
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On August 13 2013 01:11 crms wrote: you can immediately tell how bad someones comprehension of dota is when they call xboct bad, easily replaceable, or na'vi's worst player.
funny how words like throw become so common people just parrot each other. Xboct is god tier player, especially on LAN in high stress games. 100%.
Xboct was the best carry at TI3.
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Bisutopia19200 Posts
On August 13 2013 01:12 ymir233 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 01:01 BisuDagger wrote: I'd be pissed if I had Dendi on my team in that finals game too. XBOST knows his teammates are no Nature's Prophet TP spam. Fixed that for you  You can hate greatness all you want. It's just counter intuitive.You should learn to welcome greatness into your hearts.
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<--- master troll
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On August 13 2013 01:11 crms wrote: you can immediately tell how bad someones comprehension of dota is when they call xboct bad, easily replaceable, or na'vi's worst player.
funny how words like throw become so common people just parrot each other. Xboct is god tier player, especially on LAN in high stress games. It is so true. Xboct played so well and receoved from some amazing set backs. People who think they can just replace him just don't really understand Dota 2.
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On August 13 2013 01:11 crms wrote: you can immediately tell how bad someones comprehension of dota is when they call xboct bad, easily replaceable, or na'vi's worst player.
funny how words like throw become so common people just parrot each other. Xboct is god tier player, especially on LAN in high stress games. You don't even have to comprehend DOTA. In case of XBOCT the results speak for themselves and there is no room for interpretation. He is by far the most accomplished carry in DOTA2 and frankly if you think that makes him easily replaceable, then you dont know anything about ESPORTS.
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On August 13 2013 01:13 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 00:47 Warri wrote: He does look pissed in the videos, but i dont know why he would be pissed at kuro. Puppey drafted "cute" stuff that didnt work out. Funn1k and Kuro don't have this breadth, at least, not yet. They have a pretty clearly defined comfort zone with regard to what they can play well. This causes issues even with regard to some popular heroes, such as Funn1k's lackluster performance on Batrider in the finals. In game 4, Burning was saying on the Chinese stream that Na'Vi should have an almost guaranteed win from the draft, but later attributed the loss almost entirely to Funn1k. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this - Funn1k really did play poorly in the finals.
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On August 13 2013 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 01:12 ymir233 wrote:On August 13 2013 01:01 BisuDagger wrote: I'd be pissed if I had Dendi on my team in that finals game too. XBOST knows his teammates are no Nature's Prophet TP spam. Fixed that for you  You can hate greatness all you want. It's just counter intuitive.You should learn to welcome greatness into your hearts.
Alliance played great, Bulldog played great, s4 played great during a time of ridiculous pressure. I don't hate split push. But TP everywhere/treants break my heart.
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On August 13 2013 01:18 ymir233 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:On August 13 2013 01:12 ymir233 wrote:On August 13 2013 01:01 BisuDagger wrote: I'd be pissed if I had Dendi on my team in that finals game too. XBOST knows his teammates are no Nature's Prophet TP spam. Fixed that for you  You can hate greatness all you want. It's just counter intuitive.You should learn to welcome greatness into your hearts. Alliance played great, Bulldog played great, s4 played great during a time of ridiculous pressure. I don't hate split push. But TP everywhere/treants break my heart. Its no better than Chen and his ability to get a lucky harpy with the first pull and just win mid for free.
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On August 13 2013 01:13 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 00:47 Warri wrote: He does look pissed in the videos, but i dont know why he would be pissed at kuro. Puppey drafted "cute" stuff that didnt work out. This is the difference between the old Na'Vi and the new Na'Vi. Puppey doesn't just draft "cute" stuff. He drafts what he believes will win. The only flaw is that sometimes this is independent of what Na'Vi's comfort zone is, but with the old Na'Vi this worked because quite simply, LightOfHeaven and Ars-Art had the breadth and the experience to play whatever Puppey wanted them to play. Funn1k and Kuro don't have this breadth, at least, not yet. They have a pretty clearly defined comfort zone with regard to what they can play well. This causes issues even with regard to some popular heroes, such as Funn1k's lackluster performance on Batrider in the finals. In game 4, Burning was saying on the Chinese stream that Na'Vi should have an almost guaranteed win from the draft, but later attributed the loss almost entirely to Funn1k.
This pretty much sums up the current navi team. Funn1k's Batrider is honestly pretty bad compared to most of the other batriders and you can clearly see him not feeling comfortable on him. Kurokys rubick also outshines most of his other heroes and it was really painful to see navi lose the game because of a bad batrider :/
Also people should stop calling xboct the weakest navi player. He has shown this TI that he is one of the best carries and that he can play very versatile. There was a period where his play looked lackluster and he "threw" a few of games , but to be honest he is playing pretty damn well at the moment. Navi's playstyle would change quite a bit if they were to replace xboct with a different carry player. Beside that, there are barely anyother carries with the amount of tournament experience that xboct has. He has always proven himself on LAN
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On August 13 2013 01:19 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 01:18 ymir233 wrote:On August 13 2013 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:On August 13 2013 01:12 ymir233 wrote:On August 13 2013 01:01 BisuDagger wrote: I'd be pissed if I had Dendi on my team in that finals game too. XBOST knows his teammates are no Nature's Prophet TP spam. Fixed that for you  You can hate greatness all you want. It's just counter intuitive.You should learn to welcome greatness into your hearts. Alliance played great, Bulldog played great, s4 played great during a time of ridiculous pressure. I don't hate split push. But TP everywhere/treants break my heart. Its no better than Chen and his ability to get a lucky harpy with the first pull and just win mid for free.
I'll just pretend like that analogy made sense in terms of gameplay. You win, I totally hated Alliance from when they started way back in Age of Mythology.
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On August 13 2013 00:32 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 00:31 BlitzerSC wrote: Kuroky thinks he is god or something, but he is not. I wouldn't be surprised if XBOCT called Kuroky useless because that's just the truth.
edit: Maybe he was just trolling or drunk, who knows. What? Where is this coming from? Troll.
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could be that they do same thing as they do in SC2 and blast loud music/white noise in the booth.
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On August 13 2013 01:24 1Dhalism wrote:could be that they do same thing as they do in SC2 and blast loud music/white noise in the booth. Or his ears hurt from havnig headphone in them for 5 days straight?
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Any flaming he's directing towards kuroky is likely due to him not speaking Russian, since kuroky's Rubick and wisp games were stellar. I think if anything Xboct would be mad at Funn1k after how questionably he played yesterday (although he made some clutch plays too).
And I don't understand the flaming towards Xboct by people on this site and gosugamers. Yes he has a history of making dumb decisions and throwing games in the past but he was solid in this international. He was easily the best carry player yesterday.
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On August 13 2013 00:31 BlitzerSC wrote: Kuroky thinks he is god or something, but he is not. I wouldn't be surprised if XBOCT called Kuroky useless because that's just the truth.
edit: Maybe he was just trolling or drunk, who knows.
No i think kuroky knows he is in deep sh*t lol, look at his face on the interviews before grand finals, i would have flamed the sh*t out of him (as usual) if he didnt win the Game3 for Navi.
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On August 13 2013 01:23 Bam Lee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 01:13 TheYango wrote:On August 13 2013 00:47 Warri wrote: He does look pissed in the videos, but i dont know why he would be pissed at kuro. Puppey drafted "cute" stuff that didnt work out. This is the difference between the old Na'Vi and the new Na'Vi. Puppey doesn't just draft "cute" stuff. He drafts what he believes will win. The only flaw is that sometimes this is independent of what Na'Vi's comfort zone is, but with the old Na'Vi this worked because quite simply, LightOfHeaven and Ars-Art had the breadth and the experience to play whatever Puppey wanted them to play. Funn1k and Kuro don't have this breadth, at least, not yet. They have a pretty clearly defined comfort zone with regard to what they can play well. This causes issues even with regard to some popular heroes, such as Funn1k's lackluster performance on Batrider in the finals. In game 4, Burning was saying on the Chinese stream that Na'Vi should have an almost guaranteed win from the draft, but later attributed the loss almost entirely to Funn1k. This pretty much sums up the current navi team. Funn1k's Batrider is honestly pretty bad compared to most of the other batriders and you can clearly see him not feeling comfortable on him. Kurokys rubick also outshines most of his other heroes and it was really painful to see navi lose the game because of a bad batrider :/ Also people should stop calling xboct the weakest navi player. He has shown this TI that he is one of the best carries and that he can play very versatile. There was a period where his play looked lackluster and he "threw" a few of games , but to be honest he is playing pretty damn well at the moment. Navi's playstyle would change quite a bit if they were to replace xboct with a different carry player. Beside that, there are barely anyother carries with the amount of tournament experience that xboct has. He has always proven himself on LAN I think Kuro has a bit more work to do as improving of a support player - I think his performance lately has been a bit lackluster. I often see pretty obviously positioning mistakes on him as compared to someone like EGM, and I think his other heroes besides rubick are typically pretty underwhelming.
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On August 13 2013 01:23 ymir233 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 01:19 Plansix wrote:On August 13 2013 01:18 ymir233 wrote:On August 13 2013 01:15 BisuDagger wrote:On August 13 2013 01:12 ymir233 wrote:On August 13 2013 01:01 BisuDagger wrote: I'd be pissed if I had Dendi on my team in that finals game too. XBOST knows his teammates are no Nature's Prophet TP spam. Fixed that for you  You can hate greatness all you want. It's just counter intuitive.You should learn to welcome greatness into your hearts. Alliance played great, Bulldog played great, s4 played great during a time of ridiculous pressure. I don't hate split push. But TP everywhere/treants break my heart. Its no better than Chen and his ability to get a lucky harpy with the first pull and just win mid for free. I'll just pretend like that analogy made sense in terms of gameplay. You win, I totally hated Alliance from when they started way back in Age of Mythology. There is a ton of BS stuff in Dota 2, its why we play it. NP split push of glory is one of them. Puck/lifestealer is also pretty BS. Timber saw and the endless AOEs is pretty dumb. KotL and PL are pretty fucked up. Hell, KotL is pretty fucked up. Who gives out free mana?
The point of the game is to have a number of ways to win. If they don't, then the game becomes stale and no one takes risks.
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