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JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 18:08:19
August 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#41
On August 12 2013 02:51 eLeVaTioN wrote:
3. You're right, having a degree in an engineering field and neuroscience wouldn't make a person oblivious to running a bank account. However that doesn't mean a legitimate entity would allow such a person to do so. I major in a physics field, I could probably run an account just as easily, but does this mean JP Morgan or any company is going to allow me to run financial accounts for them? God no. Unless you have a real background in financing/accounting, you don't fully know what you're doing. And what about your biochemistry graduate working in communications? Explain to me how 2H2 + O2 = 2H2O has anything to do with "Information Security"?


I'll just step in from the side to comment a bit on this.
Now I don't know how math-heavy this neuroscience degree is, but it is not unheard of for graduates from math-heavy fields to be recruited into financial positions (in Denmark at lesat) and I think they can be superior to co-workers with a traditional finance degree in some regards.

While biochemistry in many instances can be viewed as very sophisticated cell communation, I don't see how a major in biochemistry would help one fill a communications position, but this guy may have other experiences that help him - and the degree mainly shows that he is capable of working towards something big (ie. not a slacker).

Atleast I oftentimes think of a major degree as more of a proof that one can work determined towards something big for several years, thus proving one could fill pretty much any position with the necessary effort.
1338, one upping 1337
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
August 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#42
On August 12 2013 03:06 JKM wrote:

I'll just step in from the side to comment a bit on this.
Now I don't know how math-heavy this neuroscience degree is, but it is not unheard of for graduates from math-heavy fields to be recruited into financial positions (in Denmark at lesat) and I think they can be superior to co-workers with a traditional finance degree in some regards.

While biochemistry in many instances can be viewed as very sophisticated cell communation, I don't see how a major in biochemistry would help one fill a communications position, but this guy may have other experiences that help him - and the degree mainly shows that he is capable of working towards something big (ie. not a slacker).

Atleast I oftentimes think of a major degree as more of a proof that one can work determined towards something big for several years, thus proving one could fill pretty much any position with the necessary effort.



Doing biomedical engineering, you would have a deep understand of mathematics but that doesn't necessarily apply to financing. It's why I provided myself as an example, I do physics and sure I've had to do a lot of math for it but that doesn't mean I understand how to run accounts, manage cashflow and do risk-analysis. No legitimate entity either would allow someone with a biomedical degree to do it either, at least here in the US. Every company has guidelines of you need a degree in a financing or accounting field to work in the area he claims to be doing for this team.

This also seems odd to me how a student who studied neurology and is conducting research in nanotechnology would have the time or be willing to do these sort of things while also running 2 companies and traveling around the world. You know what they say, if it's too good to be true then it probably is. The story of the person he claims to be sounds too good to be true.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 18:18:23
August 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#43
Nanoclown, dude, if you ever want to be taken seriously, this is not the way.

It wouldve made more sense if you said you were a garbage truck driver than this Purdue bs.
Listening to you, your days are 36 hours long.

get a life seriously.

thanks to elevation for taking the time to bring this story out.
Recruiting on bnet forum? really? hahahaha


edit: I work in finances and by no way am I a math genius lol.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 11 2013 18:23 GMT
#44
yo you guys need to chill with the random bashing and calling Neurotic out for shit he's clearly explained calmly. Neurotic is not Nano. If you have a problem with Nano keep it that way, but shitting on Neurotic's posts make you sound incredibly stupid.

We're trying to discuss whether CorePro is actually legitimate. Neurotic has answered that they're just starting up. Wait until September 1 when he's said they're becoming official before continuing your hate train. If you have an issue in who the management team is and if their credentials line up, that's a separate issue that really doesn't concern you. Neurotic seems smart enough to do his own shit, and if he isn't, then we'll find out in a month. Otherwise, stop calling out people for no reason and use your brain.
There is no one like you in the universe.
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 18:30:17
August 11 2013 18:27 GMT
#45
Lacking a business license doesn't mean anything. They could be a sole proprietership/DBA; a license is not required to have a business bank account. There's just as good a chance it's a name to make a rich kid sound professional (again, no license), nothing wrong with that either if they're solvent. The NanoCloud guy sounds like a tool, but this is a witch-hunt and OP is full of it.

Either way I hope wannabecool gets back into form and signs with a serious team, he can be a beast.
pea_Sea
Profile Joined April 2008
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 18:59:53
August 11 2013 18:56 GMT
#46
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.
Ureth_RA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States78 Posts
August 11 2013 19:14 GMT
#47
I think everyone wants every team to be a scam now
Pein Is Love
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 19:47:41
August 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#48
LOL! For a person who is majoring in Bioengineering and Neuroscience, NaNoCloud is so stupid!

I have a bioengineering degree, and this guy is a complete idiot!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
xShadow53
Profile Joined June 2013
14 Posts
August 11 2013 19:30 GMT
#49
On August 12 2013 04:14 Ureth_RA wrote:
I think everyone wants every team to be a scam now

There is rather so many inconsistency in this thread. No one wants people getting scammed.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 19:36:38
August 11 2013 19:34 GMT
#50
On August 12 2013 03:56 pea_Sea wrote:
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.


NaNoCloud? Or his accomplice?

Btw, liquipedia does update pretty frequently, and the Purdue website may be old. But that still puts the Purdue organization's credibility into question.

Also, we know NaNoCloud is a real person, but we also know how much of a compulsive liar he is.

Finally, if you have credible sources, then maybe you wouldn't get this much smack from other people.

EDIT: LOL, I just found out that NaNoCloud just changed his name to Cell! Beware of Cell, you guys!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 19:48:40
August 11 2013 19:47 GMT
#51
On August 12 2013 03:56 pea_Sea wrote:
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.



So you're going to tell me this guy http://developheart.org/about-us/team/ is him? A student who between his research, his jobs and his studies still manages to play Starcraft and be apart of a team? This student travels all over the world constantly, there's no way he manages to do all of that and still play a game for as much as he claims to. And why would he feel the need to defend himself when people accuse him of paying someone to boost his account? For someone who manages to do all of this with his life, I don't see why he would ever care what people thought about him.

Also for a self-proclaimed 4.0 student, he sent a PM to me mocking me for studying physics however couldn't seem to say the word properly as he called it "Physic" every time he mentioned the word. This isn't a personal vendetta, this is if a team associates with a person that not many people believe he is who he says and carries a bit of a bad reputation, I don't see how that team could be serious. And as pointed out above, there's a few problems I still find with the rest of it. Getting a license agreement to use an After Effect tutorial intro? After another company already used it? Having a biochemistry major run communications? Your "executive director" coming in with a bad reputation from the previous community he came from? Not to mention I literally have a list of team managers saying negative things involving members from Core already, including a Core manager coming into a player's twitch chat promising him salary and gear (because legitimate organizations work in such a manner...).
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
August 11 2013 20:01 GMT
#52
Unless low-level players are part of some bigger organization (like quantic or clairty academy), then any team says they have sponsorship and can offer them salary, flights, and gear is an obvious con. There is no way in hell a company would want to sponsor these teams.
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 20:23:21
August 11 2013 20:16 GMT
#53
Let me also point out that it was shown NanoClouD used a program to forge skype conversations regarding another team called LYGF and even involving Quantic. This can actually be confirmed by a number of managers as well as the "sMi scammed" thread. So an individual stooping to the level of forging skype conversations and making up rumors (you think this thread is just me making stuff up? He literally made up a conversation trying to show a manager from LYGF calling Clarity Gaming a scam team). At least I can show inconsistencies in how things were presented and claims being made that a lot of people agree with me on, the individual you associate however tried to actually screw over a team and also lied about Quantic being interested in picking up his little group.

Link to that can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423478&currentpage=24#468
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
August 11 2013 20:17 GMT
#54
On August 12 2013 03:56 pea_Sea wrote:
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.



That's funny because it lists you as one of The Core Gaming leadership. Strange for you to say "they seem to be hard working people" when you are part of that group. For someone with a Law degree, you don't give a very convincing story.

http://www.coreprogaming.com/management.html
Jamileon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 20:25:12
August 11 2013 20:24 GMT
#55
On August 12 2013 03:56 pea_Sea wrote:
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.


I'm also the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club (trust me i have a doctorate) and have not met nanocloud in real life. I have met who he is pretending to be, believe it or not he is a real person who studies nanoscience at Purdue however his name is Milad and does not play starcraft 2. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Whoever is pretending to be milad does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, for good reason, but the person he is pretending to be is real. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I can confirm Nanocloud or anyone going by that ingame name is not real because i would have met him through the club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki has been updated in what looks like very recently so i would expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is say its a "profitable company" and promise money to players and people will take ur word for it for about a month or so.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a skeleton foundation for their sponsors so as to give the illusion of a well off stable team, just give them a chance to get everything in place before you bash them and when everything is done try to forget about all of this and take their word for it. It will take roughly 35 days for nanocloud to dismember it again and for yet another thread to pop up over this stuff.

I also major in everything purdue has to offer and have been there for 67 years doing so.
Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
August 11 2013 20:41 GMT
#56
On August 12 2013 05:24 Jamileon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 03:56 pea_Sea wrote:
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.


I'm also the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club (trust me i have a doctorate) and have not met nanocloud in real life. I have met who he is pretending to be, believe it or not he is a real person who studies nanoscience at Purdue however his name is Milad and does not play starcraft 2. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Whoever is pretending to be milad does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, for good reason, but the person he is pretending to be is real. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I can confirm Nanocloud or anyone going by that ingame name is not real because i would have met him through the club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki has been updated in what looks like very recently so i would expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is say its a "profitable company" and promise money to players and people will take ur word for it for about a month or so.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a skeleton foundation for their sponsors so as to give the illusion of a well off stable team, just give them a chance to get everything in place before you bash them and when everything is done try to forget about all of this and take their word for it. It will take roughly 35 days for nanocloud to dismember it again and for yet another thread to pop up over this stuff.

I also major in everything purdue has to offer and have been there for 67 years doing so.



excuse me but how old are you?
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
August 11 2013 20:41 GMT
#57
This thread is just a hate train now. Close this thread for 22 days or whatever until the 1st, and then reopen it if shit doesn't check out then. As for right now, there's no reason for players to sign anyway until they make their official announcement, so chill.
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
August 11 2013 20:42 GMT
#58
On August 12 2013 03:16 eLeVaTioN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 03:06 JKM wrote:

I'll just step in from the side to comment a bit on this.
Now I don't know how math-heavy this neuroscience degree is, but it is not unheard of for graduates from math-heavy fields to be recruited into financial positions (in Denmark at lesat) and I think they can be superior to co-workers with a traditional finance degree in some regards.

While biochemistry in many instances can be viewed as very sophisticated cell communation, I don't see how a major in biochemistry would help one fill a communications position, but this guy may have other experiences that help him - and the degree mainly shows that he is capable of working towards something big (ie. not a slacker).

Atleast I oftentimes think of a major degree as more of a proof that one can work determined towards something big for several years, thus proving one could fill pretty much any position with the necessary effort.



Doing biomedical engineering, you would have a deep understand of mathematics but that doesn't necessarily apply to financing. It's why I provided myself as an example, I do physics and sure I've had to do a lot of math for it but that doesn't mean I understand how to run accounts, manage cashflow and do risk-analysis. No legitimate entity either would allow someone with a biomedical degree to do it either, at least here in the US. Every company has guidelines of you need a degree in a financing or accounting field to work in the area he claims to be doing for this team.

This also seems odd to me how a student who studied neurology and is conducting research in nanotechnology would have the time or be willing to do these sort of things while also running 2 companies and traveling around the world. You know what they say, if it's too good to be true then it probably is. The story of the person he claims to be sounds too good to be true.

To be fair, we had to take a course in project evaluation, risk analysis and cash flow balances as a part of our engineering degree. We also had more courses in project management, corporate law, and business ethics.

I don't believe his neuroscience/biomed eng double major though as those curriculums don't overlap enough to satisfy all of the pre requisites for both degrees. He likely did a biomed engineering degree with his 2-4 science options being all biology and neuroscience classes. If that's te case, then he knows as much as your average 2nd year bio student.

Source: I have a genetics degree and am working on an engineering degree.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 11 2013 20:51 GMT
#59
On August 12 2013 05:17 BlackPanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 03:56 pea_Sea wrote:
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.



That's funny because it lists you as one of The Core Gaming leadership. Strange for you to say "they seem to be hard working people" when you are part of that group. For someone with a Law degree, you don't give a very convincing story.

http://www.coreprogaming.com/management.html


GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Jamileon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States63 Posts
August 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#60
On August 12 2013 05:41 Race is Terran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 05:24 Jamileon wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:56 pea_Sea wrote:
I'm the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club and have met nanocloud in real life. Believe it or not he is a real person that studied nanoscience at Purdue. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Nanocloud does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, but he is a real person. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I did meet him through club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki hasn't been updated in what looks like forever so I wouldn't expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is go outside and sell lemonade and make $5 to be a profitable company lol.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a good team, just give them a chance to prove themselves before you bash over everything.


I'm also the founder of Purdue University Starcraft Club (trust me i have a doctorate) and have not met nanocloud in real life. I have met who he is pretending to be, believe it or not he is a real person who studies nanoscience at Purdue however his name is Milad and does not play starcraft 2. I've even talked to his professors with him about a project they were working on. Whoever is pretending to be milad does like to exaggerate sometimes and troll people which is why people never tend to believe him, for good reason, but the person he is pretending to be is real. I no longer attend Purdue so I don't know exactly what goes on with the club anymore but I can confirm Nanocloud or anyone going by that ingame name is not real because i would have met him through the club itself. Also, the Purdue site and wiki has been updated in what looks like very recently so i would expect any information of him to be on there. Also people need to realize it is incredibly easy to make a "profitable company". All you have to do is say its a "profitable company" and promise money to players and people will take ur word for it for about a month or so.

This thread seems to be more of a personal vendetta. The Core Gaming leadership seems to be hard working people that are trying their best to make a skeleton foundation for their sponsors so as to give the illusion of a well off stable team, just give them a chance to get everything in place before you bash them and when everything is done try to forget about all of this and take their word for it. It will take roughly 35 days for nanocloud to dismember it again and for yet another thread to pop up over this stuff.

I also major in everything purdue has to offer and have been there for 67 years doing so.



excuse me but how old are you?


I'm 68, I was a very gifted child at an early age.
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