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Days
Profile Joined February 2010
United States219 Posts
August 12 2013 01:53 GMT
#81
On August 12 2013 10:43 afiLiazn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 10:39 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
On August 12 2013 10:31 Days wrote:
Nanocloud you are the best man, and you totally don't try to manipulate people and make them do things for you! I totally trust you. PLEASE employ me in one of your 3 companies that you have! You said you would help me with rent and everything!



HAha another brainedwashed victim. This is amusing.

Uh... that is obviously sarcasm, dude.

Shhhh, only the enlightened can sense the sarcasm
We buy things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like.
Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
August 12 2013 02:11 GMT
#82
Scamming sucks and props to eLeVaTioN on such a detailed write up.

I have one question though: how do sites like fundsponge even work? How can people pay the normal amazon price and both fundsponge make money to exist and the benefiting party get the 4% of the cost? Does amazon give up some of their profit to allow this to exist or something?!?!
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 02:43:57
August 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#83
On August 12 2013 08:16 coldscars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 08:09 -Kyo- wrote:
Oh god, the above chat log. How does anyone believe these people?! Unless you're getting an actual binding contract from a legitimate organization you should have them either front you payment or something to show they're actually willing to support you as a player. How can you believe this sort of stuff? I feel really sorry for Sonic and the others, but... you guys should get a second opinion or something first. Unless of course, you don't mind jumping from team to team when what they're saying they're going to provide you will never be there @_@;;


we already got paid as neurotic said before. days was on the active roster not the progaming roster


perhaps, for journalistic balance, the above post should be quoted in the OP? Since it is evidence in the favour of Core Gaming not being a scam. While I agree that there are some sketchy things going on, that isn't anywhere near enough evidence to support the claim of it being a scam... especially since you have one of the players stating outright that they have been paid.

p.s.... i took the time to read the whole thread, it is quite obvious that most of the last 10 posters didn't even read anything past the OP. This is why you need to add the above evidence!
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
PtossRemix
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States73 Posts
August 12 2013 03:00 GMT
#84
Its obvious nanocloud will never come out and admit his stupidity.. But if nanocloud was speakin the slightest truth about himself, itd be so easy to prove everyone wrong.. First step in proving this guy nanocloud is even remotely honest about himself is to stream with cam and play at high level GM PROTOSS , TERRAN AND ZERG.
PLaYbOi..
Profile Joined July 2013
7 Posts
August 12 2013 03:02 GMT
#85
wow... this is interesting good job investigating , hope everything is situated
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 03:37:45
August 12 2013 03:37 GMT
#86
I wrote
This is crazy because I was actually the very 1st person to accuse Nanocloud of being a fraud about being top 16 gm and bragging about it. I was just tired of hearing this guy say he was beating polt and byun on NA ladder so I did my reasearch I have the chat logs of skype to prove it dating back to May 3 2013. Ive asked him to play me numerous times when i confronted him but declined every time. When I googled his name i was actually amazed to see his acomplishments. Double degree and an ambassador and self-proclaimed top 16 grandmaster in starcraft2? If that really is Nanocloud then why bother lying in starcraft 2 a video game at that? I just dont get it.



And I got a pm from Nanocloud shortly after
http://imgur.com/6YszI6b
Not only did he lie about his skill level but he lied about who he was.
For a second I was gonna ask him to bride me to keep it a secret and ask him why do this but then I thought it just a video game. I love sc2 from the bottom of my heart and i just want the scene to grow. This person is truly vile, greedy and overall disgusting human being.

So im asking TL a 2ND time to ip ban this person.
Didnt even know people like that existed.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
pea_Sea
Profile Joined April 2008
United States29 Posts
August 12 2013 03:55 GMT
#87
On August 12 2013 11:11 Ry2D2 wrote:
I have one question though: how do sites like fundsponge even work? How can people pay the normal amazon price and both fundsponge make money to exist and the benefiting party get the 4% of the cost? Does amazon give up some of their profit to allow this to exist or something?!?!


It works just like any advertising works. Amazon wants more customers so they pay out money to get them. Someone might normally buy from Walmart, but once they hear of fundsponge.com, they buy from Amazon to support their favorite team. This way, amazon gets more customers, FundSponge gets money for handling all the work, and the organizations or teams get money for helping to advertise. Teamliquid does the same thing if you buy Starcraft through their store. Its a win for everyone.
Wanna-be-cool
Profile Joined June 2007
United States87 Posts
August 12 2013 03:55 GMT
#88
I'm in Core gaming and it seems legit so far. No scams I see. Also, I was the first one to join the Team fyi
It's not about mechanics and apm. It's about strategy!!
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 04:11:29
August 12 2013 04:00 GMT
#89
On August 12 2013 11:42 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 08:16 coldscars wrote:
On August 12 2013 08:09 -Kyo- wrote:
Oh god, the above chat log. How does anyone believe these people?! Unless you're getting an actual binding contract from a legitimate organization you should have them either front you payment or something to show they're actually willing to support you as a player. How can you believe this sort of stuff? I feel really sorry for Sonic and the others, but... you guys should get a second opinion or something first. Unless of course, you don't mind jumping from team to team when what they're saying they're going to provide you will never be there @_@;;


we already got paid as neurotic said before. days was on the active roster not the progaming roster


perhaps, for journalistic balance, the above post should be quoted in the OP? Since it is evidence in the favour of Core Gaming not being a scam. While I agree that there are some sketchy things going on, that isn't anywhere near enough evidence to support the claim of it being a scam... especially since you have one of the players stating outright that they have been paid.

p.s.... i took the time to read the whole thread, it is quite obvious that most of the last 10 posters didn't even read anything past the OP. This is why you need to add the above evidence!


Just because their players got paid for 1 month (and not all of them confirmed by Days) that doesn't mean the team isn't a scam. From the information I've found about Neurotic, people are claiming he's just some rich kid trying to throw money into something, not a business man. Even one of their players confirms this is a sketchy situation, them saying they want to help out with their rent payments? Team claiming to a sponsor that they're owned by said company that doesn't exist (I don't see how any real business even if they were starting up would give a name that hasn't even been registered and approved of yet) then claims another one? Them associating with a known compulsive liar who also tried to completely screw over a team and is known for getting account boosted? I never claimed they wouldn't be able to provide anything, I said they aren't who they say they are and I still find that to be an issue for their players. When you have your own players coming in, confirming not everyone got paid and it's sketchy, then team managers telling me a number of issues they've had with their management coming into twitch chats promising salary and gear among other things. No I don't have set proof this team is entirely a scam like sMi, but there are way too many things that don't make sense and they still haven't answered any of my questions or questions of other people.

EDIT: The link above showing NanoClouD admitting to stealing the guy's identity. However "Core Gaming" defended him saying they had personally spoken to him confirming he is who he says and spoke to his colleagues... So how can you expect people to believe everything else they are saying when they came in here and lied from the start? Also claiming that they were partnering with the executives of Nano's supposed companies... So you plan to start up a company partnering with executives from a company that an individual claimed he ran? This right here is a major red flag now.
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-21 19:37:55
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#90
Core Gaming's Executive Director and other management however defended him earlier in the post claiming they confirmed his identity and were even going to partner with executives from the 2 companies that Milad owns and another confirming he supposedly met Milad in real life from Purdue and claimed to have spoken with his professors regarding his projects however spoke as if he wasn't apart of Core Gaming. Confirmed by their website he is management for them http://www.coreprogaming.com/management.html

http://gyazo.com/672d4e316ce89a940261dd45ce570096
http://gyazo.com/4aac8c9c0b110684f51f8e57085d8762


So the guy stole another person's identity and they defended him. I don't know if they were also lied to or in on the lie itself however they claimed to be partnering with said executives from companies that the real NanoClouD does not own. This should raise a major red flag for a lot of people. The company was being started up based on a lie essentially.

Link posted above regarding NanoClouD's PM is here http://imgur.com/6YszI6b Thanks to Rickyville21 for posting
Team .SCA
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 04:32:27
August 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#91
Game Over
edit: NanoClouD get shut down
General Manager | Team Ascension | teamascension.co | @T_Ascension
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#92
On August 12 2013 12:37 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
I wrote
Show nested quote +
This is crazy because I was actually the very 1st person to accuse Nanocloud of being a fraud about being top 16 gm and bragging about it. I was just tired of hearing this guy say he was beating polt and byun on NA ladder so I did my reasearch I have the chat logs of skype to prove it dating back to May 3 2013. Ive asked him to play me numerous times when i confronted him but declined every time. When I googled his name i was actually amazed to see his acomplishments. Double degree and an ambassador and self-proclaimed top 16 grandmaster in starcraft2? If that really is Nanocloud then why bother lying in starcraft 2 a video game at that? I just dont get it.



And I got a pm from Nanocloud shortly after
http://imgur.com/6YszI6b
Not only did he lie about his skill level but he lied about who he was.
For a second I was gonna ask him to bride me to keep it a secret and ask him why do this but then I thought it just a video game. I love sc2 from the bottom of my heart and i just want the scene to grow. This person is truly vile, greedy and overall disgusting human being.

So im asking TL a 2ND time to ip ban this person.
Didnt even know people like that existed.

I'm glad the my friends found a legit team, I just hope this team to not associate with this nanocloud guy, I trust the players' words because they have no reason to lie for the team, If they said they got paid then they got paid. Keep the players get rid of nanocloud.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
pea_Sea
Profile Joined April 2008
United States29 Posts
August 12 2013 04:43 GMT
#93
"I think we should use your logic and assume I stole the guys identity. GG"

You guys do realize this is not a confession and just sarcasm right?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 12 2013 04:48 GMT
#94
On August 12 2013 13:43 pea_Sea wrote:
"I think we should use your logic and assume I stole the guys identity. GG"

You guys do realize this is not a confession and just sarcasm right?


defend http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423478&currentpage=7#129
how can a legit team associate with people that promotes cheating and not uphold the idea of fair game?
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
August 12 2013 04:54 GMT
#95
On August 12 2013 13:43 pea_Sea wrote:
"I think we should use your logic and assume I stole the guys identity. GG"

You guys do realize this is not a confession and just sarcasm right?



Neglecting the first part of his message where he says "I stole his identity, do you think a wealthy, over-achiever, who owns companies, non-profits, would be good at sc2 or spent time on sc2?"

He admitted he stole the identity and your organization defended him saying he didn't. You lied. End of story.
Ironsights
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:09:54
August 12 2013 04:58 GMT
#96
I am the ironsights from the core page. I have read the OP and am responding. May respond to additional posts, but 5 pages take time to read.

Core is not a scam, it is a work in progress. We are not at the "true" professional level, but that doesn't mean we are a lie either. Everyone has to start somewhere, and we are trying to get started here and now. Justin/Neurotic is the leader/mastermind, and has been recruiting and guiding the community. We have existed for all of three months, and are trying to grow and evolve.

Please, give us time to solidify our foundations and hammer out exactly who and what we are before you begin slandering us. thanks.
Pain, like any other emotion, can be turned off. // If there can be no victory, then I shall fight forever.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:01:22
August 12 2013 05:00 GMT
#97
On August 12 2013 13:54 eLeVaTioN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:43 pea_Sea wrote:
"I think we should use your logic and assume I stole the guys identity. GG"

You guys do realize this is not a confession and just sarcasm right?



Neglecting the first part of his message where he says "I stole his identity, do you think a wealthy, over-achiever, who owns companies, non-profits, would be good at sc2 or spent time on sc2?"

He admitted he stole the identity and your organization defended him saying he didn't. You lied. End of story.


you do realize he can prove his identity very easily right? all he had to do is answer my video skype call with his webcam on, or make a video of himself stating he's association with core gaming.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
August 12 2013 05:01 GMT
#98
On August 12 2013 13:58 Ironsights wrote:
I am the ironsights from the core page. I have read the OP and am responding. May respond to additional posts, but 5 pages take time to read.

Core is not a scam, it is a work in progress. We are not at the "true" professional level, but that doesn't mean we are a lie either. Everyone has to start somewhere, and we are trying to get started here and now. Justin/Neurotic is the leader/mastermind, and has been recruiting and guiding the community. We have existed for all of three months, and are trying to grow and evolve.

Please, give us time to solidify our foundations and hammer out exactly who and what we are before you begin slandering us. thanks.



Read pages 4 and 5, please.
Jamileon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States63 Posts
August 12 2013 05:01 GMT
#99
I am actually highly interested as to how NanoClouD is going to try to wiggle out of this one. I am pretty sure he will try at some point. Even more interested as to what Core is going to do about Nano or if they will just say "W.E. HE IS GM WITH ALL 3 RACES 2IMPORTANT YOLO"
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:05:35
August 12 2013 05:03 GMT
#100
On August 12 2013 14:01 Jamileon wrote:
I am actually highly interested as to how NanoClouD is going to try to wiggle out of this one. I am pretty sure he will try at some point. Even more interested as to what Core is going to do about Nano or if they will just say "W.E. HE IS GM WITH ALL 3 RACES 2IMPORTANT YOLO"

He can easily get out of this one by making a video of himself stating his association with core gaming. which will confirm his identity is not fake. But he still have to answer the self admitted boosting accounts to GM.

and if he can't produce such a video, we just have to keep assuming this confession is real.
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