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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:43 pea_Sea wrote: "I think we should use your logic and assume I stole the guys identity. GG" You guys do realize this is not a confession and just sarcasm right? So I think I'm in the right here when I say the credibility of your "organization" is in question. NanoClouD physically admitted to stealing the identity of Milad and your organization defended him. Neurotic claimed he had spoken to supposed executives of the 2 companies that Milad owns and was going to partner with them for this "CorePro Design, LLC". But Nanocloud admitted he's not Milad so Neurotic lied about it. He never had confirmation of his identity nor did he ever speak with these executives. The plans for his "company" are a fraud. Ok some players got paid for 1 month, that still doesn't mean the team isn't a scam or a fake. I could easily tell players that I'll give them $300 a month salary and even send them their pay for the first month, but does this mean people are going take it? Some people who don't check into things might but others would question me. Those players joined your team thinking they're be backed by a start up company that is partnering with a man known as Milad, so until you can provide some hard evidence proving Nanocloud is in fact Miladi, then your team lied to the players and that is a scam. I also still want answers to everything else I did point out because no one has even been able to explain anything other than Neurotic saying he is starting up a company that supposedly going to own "Core Gaming". | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:58 Ironsights wrote: Edit1: Nanocloud has only recently joined the team. If he is a scammer, that's his business. If he is caught scamming people, he will be thrown out of Core. He is not any part of Core leadership and is not running the show. please do, he is a scamer evidence about his real skill compare to his skill when he is playing ladder is here he's already caught, by both SCA and sMi. and he proudly admitted on boosting many people's account into GM for money. the evidence is here please do kick nanocloud out of the team, but keep the player who came with him to the team. They are all talented young players, none of them has anything to do with the scams | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696¤tpage=1627#32523 Not sure if that changes anything for anyone. | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 12 2013 14:18 -Kyo- wrote: Just so people in this thread are aware: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696¤tpage=1627#32523 Not sure if that changes anything for anyone. I already knew he was banned, he sent me 3 PM's and by the time I looked at them the warning message was up saying the user was banned. Good for the community to know he's gone though. Thanks for posting it  | ||
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PeterDLai
United States924 Posts
On August 12 2013 14:12 rei wrote: please do, he is a scamer evidence about his real skill compare to his skill when he is playing ladder is here he's already caught, by both SCA and sMi. and he proudly admitted on boosting many people's account into GM for money. the evidence is here I think I see NanoClouD's business model now. 1. Pay someone to boost him to GM to gain some reputation 2. Offer to boost other players to GM for money 3. Pay someone (less than what he is paid) to boost other accounts to GM 4. ??? 5. Profit. So he's just an account boosting middleman. P.S. This is just speculation if he really isn't good enough to boost accounts on his own. xD | ||
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Eggi
478 Posts
and he most likely he will not get a job. Standard. you may or may not have single handily screwed up your future career by trying to make some petty cash. Makes me happy. | ||
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Jamileon
United States63 Posts
On August 12 2013 14:33 Eggi wrote: sadly this person real name is out here now and any reputable future employer that does a google check will see this. and he most likely he will not get a job. Standard. you may or may not have single handily screwed up your future career by trying to make some petty cash. Makes me happy. The real milad is already quite successful. Most of what Nano said he was is a real person, minus the sc2 part. | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
On August 12 2013 14:49 Jamileon wrote: The real milad is already quite successful. Most of what Nano said he was is a real person, minus the sc2 part. Does that mean NaNoCloud is using someone else's identity? It's just unbelievable that someone that successful would be doing something as stupid as NaNoCloud would do. But then again, there's CombatEX, who was an obnoxious individual in the Starcraft community but a decent guy IRL (according to the people who have met him). | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 12 2013 14:59 hansonslee wrote: Does that mean NaNoCloud is using someone else's identity? It's just unbelievable that someone that successful would be doing something as stupid as NaNoCloud would do. But then again, there's CombatEX, who was an obnoxious individual in the Starcraft community but a decent guy IRL (according to the people who have met him). He openly admitted to stealing the identity of Milad http://imgur.com/6YszI6b | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
On August 12 2013 15:02 eLeVaTioN wrote: He openly admitted to stealing the identity of Milad http://imgur.com/6YszI6b Ah, sorry for not catching that. Btw, we have nothing against upcoming players in Core-Gaming, just NaNoCloud (Cells). We know that some people buy into his lies, which is very sad. Also, the management has not been clean and honest with us either! | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
[QUOTE]On August 12 2013 15:02 eLeVaTioN wrote: [QUOTE]On August 12 2013 14:59 hansonslee wrote: [QUOTE]On August 12 2013 14:49 Jamileon wrote: [QUOTE]On August 12 2013 14:33 Eggi wrote: sadly this person real name is out here now and any reputable future employer that does a google check will see this. and he most likely he will not get a job. Standard. you may or may not have single handily screwed up your future career by trying to make some petty cash. Makes me happy.[/QUOTE] The real milad is already quite successful. Most of what Nano said he was is a real person, minus the sc2 part.[/QUOTE] Does that mean NaNoCloud is using someone else's identity? It's just unbelievable that someone that successful would be doing something as stupid as NaNoCloud would do. But then again, there's CombatEX, who was an obnoxious individual in the Starcraft community but a decent guy IRL (according to the people who have met him).[/QUOTE] He openly admitted to stealing the identity of Milad Ah, sorry for not catching that. Btw, we have nothing against upcoming players in Core-Gaming, just NaNoCloud (Cells). We know that some people buy into his lies, which is very sad. [/QUOTE] I still have a big issue with their management. They claimed to have met Nanocloud, confirmed his identity and were planning on partnering with his companies' executives. It's clear that this was a lie so if that was all a lie, what else aren't they telling us? We want answers | ||
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PeterDLai
United States924 Posts
On August 12 2013 15:02 eLeVaTioN wrote: He openly admitted to stealing the identity of Milad http://imgur.com/6YszI6b Not that it confirms he is or isn't who he says he is, but I read that entire PM as sarcasm. Of course, it could be reverse psychology... | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
[QUOTE]On August 12 2013 15:12 hansonslee wrote: [QUOTE]On August 12 2013 15:02 eLeVaTioN wrote: [QUOTE]On August 12 2013 14:59 hansonslee wrote: [QUOTE]On August 12 2013 14:49 Jamileon wrote: [QUOTE]On August 12 2013 14:33 Eggi wrote: sadly this person real name is out here now and any reputable future employer that does a google check will see this. and he most likely he will not get a job. Standard. you may or may not have single handily screwed up your future career by trying to make some petty cash. Makes me happy.[/QUOTE] The real milad is already quite successful. Most of what Nano said he was is a real person, minus the sc2 part.[/QUOTE] Does that mean NaNoCloud is using someone else's identity? It's just unbelievable that someone that successful would be doing something as stupid as NaNoCloud would do. But then again, there's CombatEX, who was an obnoxious individual in the Starcraft community but a decent guy IRL (according to the people who have met him).[/QUOTE] He openly admitted to stealing the identity of Milad. Ah, sorry for not catching that. Btw, we have nothing against upcoming players in Core-Gaming, just NaNoCloud (Cells). We know that some people buy into his lies, which is very sad. [/QUOTE] I still have a big issue with their management. They claimed to have met Nanocloud, confirmed his identity and were planning on partnering with his companies' executives. It's clear that this was a lie so if that was all a lie, what else aren't they telling us? We want answers[/QUOTE] My guess is that it's all bullshit. That's probably the best answer you'll get. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Why did anyone trust him in the first place? :| | ||
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eLeVaTioN
United States97 Posts
On August 12 2013 15:32 PeterDLai wrote: Not that it confirms he is or isn't who he says he is, but I read that entire PM as sarcasm. Of course, it could be reverse psychology... We've given him multiple chances though to prove who he claims to be. People have asked him to get on webcam, he's always denied. I actually sent Milad a message on Facebook and told nanocloud to respond back if it was in fact him, he never did. He even claims to stream his games yet his livestream is set to private and told me he would privately livestream skype conversations to me regarding sMi and now this Core team. Why does it have to be private? And everyone I've talked to all agree it doesn't make sense how a person who claims to do everything in his life that he claims to would even have the time to play starcraft and argue on the forums over a video game. | ||
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pea_Sea
United States29 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:48 rei wrote: defend http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423478¤tpage=7#129 how can a legit team associate with people that promotes cheating and not uphold the idea of fair game? I was wondering what the real reason for why this thread was made. Now it makes more sense. On August 12 2013 13:30 eLeVaTioN wrote: So the guy stole another person's identity and they defended him. Jumping to conclusions like this is ridiculous. You have no idea what is going on in the team but you still accuse it of scamming people? If you had a concern about a person on the team, you could have just as easily messaged people on the team to see what is going on before posting on here. Obviously a 10 minute google search that showed next to nothing doesn't prove any sort of scam. What would even be the point of paying out money if it was a scam? How do you think they are making money at this point or will in the future as a scam if they are just paying it out to their players? Why would a team trying to scam others decide to make contracts with players which can be legally enforced? None of this makes any sense. Also, Nanocloud is still Milad from Purdue that was posted earlier... I am still who I said I was earlier as well... and this team is a real organization. Even if he did get boosted or boosted someone else (which I have no idea because I don't watch him 24/7), he is not one of the professional players on the team so I don't get what the big point is. Milad is still a person with several skills which can be beneficial for the team. Also the team isn't even broadcasting out NanoCloud as being a good person on the team site. This whole thread started with just a broad accusation with no proof about a new team that is trying to make a good name for itself. The Starcraft community will have to get beyond accusing whole teams of people on whims and learn to embrace change if it wants to advance beyond will it is today. Change is where progress comes from if you give it a chance to prove itself. Obviously not everyone on the team even knows 100% how things will go in the future, but that doesn't mean everyone on the team isn't trying to make it succeed. | ||
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xShadow53
14 Posts
On August 12 2013 15:48 pea_Sea wrote: I was wondering what the real reason for why this thread was made. Now it makes more sense. Why would a team trying to scam others decide to make contracts with players which can be legally enforced? None of this makes any sense. . There was a contract with SMI. Look what happened there. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On August 12 2013 15:48 pea_Sea wrote: Even if he did get boosted or boosted someone else (which I have no idea because I don't watch him 24/7), he is not one of the professional players on the team so I don't get what the big point is. The big point is he's dishonest and does not value fair play, for example, he can not be trusted in a clan war situation where he can have people not even from the team playing in the accounts of the players in the team. The big point is Core gaming's reputation is at stake here. | ||
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
I hope everything works out for all the Gamers involved. GLHF | ||
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