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On January 09 2014 00:30 Flaccid wrote:
Poor MSL. Wins the Art Ross and still can't get any respect. I don't understand how the argument can be made that Kunitz can make this team "even if he doesn't play with Crosby" when MSL is left at home while meanwhile continuing to light it up regardless of whether he is playing with Stamkos (others have already pointed out the inconsistency of these selections). Assholes. They just hate short people.
\agreed.
He was snubbed in 2010, he is snubbed now. His mistake is that he wasnt born a huge pig farmer from some prairie province so Brian Burke could fall in love with his 'work ethic' and 'truculence'
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On January 08 2014 14:22 Intact wrote:
Enström turned them down. Tallinder should be out and Hedman in, but Hedman has been super lame whenever he has played for team Sweden. He was essentially the scapegoat of every game last WC. Jimmie Eriksson I guess is a token pick to have atleast one SHL player, plenty of better grinders i nthe NHL to pick from. Alfie pick also shaky since the coach said he will only be there to play PP. Think you could have used that spot better.
Why did Enstrom turn them down? Politics or?
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On January 09 2014 02:24 Flaccid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 02:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Regular season doesn't matter
And I'm going to continue to post about gretzky judging him solely on GWG during the regular season
also he's a whiner
and not that good speeches
randy carlyle
Yeah
Devon White is the greatest defensive center fielder of all time.
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On January 09 2014 05:55 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 14:22 Intact wrote:
Enström turned them down. Tallinder should be out and Hedman in, but Hedman has been super lame whenever he has played for team Sweden. He was essentially the scapegoat of every game last WC. Jimmie Eriksson I guess is a token pick to have atleast one SHL player, plenty of better grinders i nthe NHL to pick from. Alfie pick also shaky since the coach said he will only be there to play PP. Think you could have used that spot better.
Why did Enstrom turn them down? Politics or?
Said he wanted to focus all his energy on his team
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On January 09 2014 06:58 Intact wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:55 Sub40APM wrote:On January 08 2014 14:22 Intact wrote:
Enström turned them down. Tallinder should be out and Hedman in, but Hedman has been super lame whenever he has played for team Sweden. He was essentially the scapegoat of every game last WC. Jimmie Eriksson I guess is a token pick to have atleast one SHL player, plenty of better grinders i nthe NHL to pick from. Alfie pick also shaky since the coach said he will only be there to play PP. Think you could have used that spot better.
Why did Enstrom turn them down? Politics or? Said he wanted to focus all his energy on his team
but his team sucks. wont even be in the playoffs. doesnt he want to taste success at least once in his life?
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On January 09 2014 01:28 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 12:02 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Overall stats are all that matters when discussing "the greatest" Small stretches of games aren't as meaningful. Gretzky shone brightest in NHL regular season play. Gretzky is 14th all time game winning goals in the NHL regular season. He piled up a lot of points and goals with Hall of Famers for line mates in an era where scoring was sky high. Some guy claimed i stated "Gretzky is bad at hockey". Don't know where that came from. I'd like to clarify that here. Gretzky is a really good player, but not the greatest of all time.
I 'think' you 'ignored' grezky's
'league leading'
24 career gwg in the playoffs
one 'might' say game winners with the cup on the line is the 'definition' of
'clutch'
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On January 09 2014 06:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 02:24 Flaccid wrote:On January 09 2014 02:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Regular season doesn't matter
And I'm going to continue to post about gretzky judging him solely on GWG during the regular season
also he's a whiner
and not that good speeches
randy carlyle
Yeah Devon White is the greatest defensive center fielder of all time.
Go to MLB thread. Anyone who thinks Super Mario was awful during the regular season cannot possibly have a clue how the game is played or what qualifies as "good"
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On January 09 2014 07:53 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 01:28 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On January 07 2014 12:02 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Overall stats are all that matters when discussing "the greatest" Small stretches of games aren't as meaningful. Gretzky shone brightest in NHL regular season play. Gretzky is 14th all time game winning goals in the NHL regular season. He piled up a lot of points and goals with Hall of Famers for line mates in an era where scoring was sky high. Some guy claimed i stated "Gretzky is bad at hockey". Don't know where that came from. I'd like to clarify that here. Gretzky is a really good player, but not the greatest of all time. I 'think' you 'ignored' grezky's 'league leading' 24 career gwg in the playoffs one 'might' say game winners with the cup on the line is the 'definition' of 'clutch'
ya, i wonder why bobby orr and various other HOF-ers ignore that when they state who they believe hockey's GOAT is.
i think it was due to another stat.
0 pucks dug out of the corner.
Gretzky was a great offensive player though.
On January 09 2014 07:55 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On January 09 2014 02:24 Flaccid wrote:On January 09 2014 02:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Regular season doesn't matter
And I'm going to continue to post about gretzky judging him solely on GWG during the regular season
also he's a whiner
and not that good speeches
randy carlyle
Yeah Devon White is the greatest defensive center fielder of all time. Go to MLB thread. Anyone who thinks Super Mario was awful during the regular season cannot possibly have a clue how the game is played or what qualifies as "good"
my Devon White statement is about as valid as a guy who says Gretzky is the GOAT when he didn't see a single game Orr, Howe, and Lemieux ever played. this is because judging a center fielder's defense can not be done on TV. Same thing with hockey players. Orr of course has the advantage of seeing all those guys.
My condolences to the Blair family on the passing of Paul Blair.
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On January 09 2014 08:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 07:55 Orcasgt24 wrote:On January 09 2014 06:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On January 09 2014 02:24 Flaccid wrote:On January 09 2014 02:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Regular season doesn't matter
And I'm going to continue to post about gretzky judging him solely on GWG during the regular season
also he's a whiner
and not that good speeches
randy carlyle
Yeah Devon White is the greatest defensive center fielder of all time. Go to MLB thread. Anyone who thinks Super Mario was awful during the regular season cannot possibly have a clue how the game is played or what qualifies as "good" my Devon White statement is about as valid as a guy who says Gretzky is the GOAT when he didn't see a single game Orr, Howe, and Lemieux ever played. this is because judging a center fielder's defense can not be done on TV. Same thing with hockey players. Orr of course has the advantage of seeing all those guys.
I have seen hundreds of Mario's games. It's sad that cancer and other injuries cut his career basically in half because he was a magical talent. Just a step down from Gretzky.
Seen many Howe and Orr games too. Maybe not live but I have watched old games. They were good for sure, better than everyone they played with but nowhere near the caliber Wayne and Mario.
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Wait, wait, wait. Did Jimmy just spend an entire page talking about how Gretzky's not the greatest ever because of the fact that he's only 14th in regular season GWG's and that regular season stats are meaningless, and then when it's mentioned that he's actually #1 all time in playoff GWG's he just says that it should be ignored because he didn't dig pucks out of corners? Is this really happening here?
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On January 09 2014 05:52 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 21:58 GolemMadness wrote:On January 08 2014 21:53 Blisse wrote:
Sweden's defence is kinda scary good.
Except for you know, Karlsson being made of swiss cheese. Half their defense aren't as good as the worst defenseman on team Canada... mmm, I see only Talinder who is worse than Hamhuis. Everyone else is better.
Oduya, Ericsson and Edler are better than Hamhuis? Really? Hamhuis and Edler are even on the same team, where Hamhuis is the #1 defenseman.
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On January 09 2014 09:35 GolemMadness wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. Did Jimmy just spend an entire page talking about how Gretzky's not the greatest ever because of the fact that he's only 14th in regular season GWG's and that regular season stats are meaningless, and then when it's mentioned that he's actually #1 all time in playoff GWG's he just says that it should be ignored because he didn't dig pucks out of corners? Is this really happening here?
Yea you can't win with this guy. lol
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On January 09 2014 09:38 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:52 Sub40APM wrote:On January 08 2014 21:58 GolemMadness wrote:On January 08 2014 21:53 Blisse wrote:
Sweden's defence is kinda scary good.
Except for you know, Karlsson being made of swiss cheese. Half their defense aren't as good as the worst defenseman on team Canada... mmm, I see only Talinder who is worse than Hamhuis. Everyone else is better. Oduya, Ericsson and Edler are better than Hamhuis? Really? Hamhuis and Edler are even on the same team, where Hamhuis is the #1 defenseman.
Ya they are. Edler is a cripple this year, but every other year he has more PP time, better corsi and starts against better players.
Oduya is the Hamhuis of the Hawks, which makes him better since the Hawks are the better team and Erickson, you got me, that guy is a piece of crap.
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On January 09 2014 09:35 GolemMadness wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. Did Jimmy just spend an entire page talking about how Gretzky's not the greatest ever because of the fact that he's only 14th in regular season GWG's and that regular season stats are meaningless, and then when it's mentioned that he's actually #1 all time in playoff GWG's he just says that it should be ignored because he didn't dig pucks out of corners? Is this really happening here?
And this where the inception soundtrack comes on.
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On January 09 2014 06:58 Intact wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:55 Sub40APM wrote:On January 08 2014 14:22 Intact wrote:
Enström turned them down. Tallinder should be out and Hedman in, but Hedman has been super lame whenever he has played for team Sweden. He was essentially the scapegoat of every game last WC. Jimmie Eriksson I guess is a token pick to have atleast one SHL player, plenty of better grinders i nthe NHL to pick from. Alfie pick also shaky since the coach said he will only be there to play PP. Think you could have used that spot better.
Why did Enstrom turn them down? Politics or? Said he wanted to focus all his energy on his team
I read that as well, but isn't the goal of every European hockey player to win an Olympic gold medal first and foremost? On one hand that's good news for Canada but on the other, I like seeing the best assembled national teams competing because no one cares about stuff like the Worlds. And I'm gonna feel bad for him when the Jets don't make the playoffs 
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On January 09 2014 08:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ya, i wonder why bobby orr and various other HOF-ers ignore that when they state who they believe hockey's GOAT is.
i think it was due to another stat.
... number of accounts owned??
KEEP ON MUCKIN IN THE CORNER
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On January 09 2014 10:23 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 09:35 GolemMadness wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. Did Jimmy just spend an entire page talking about how Gretzky's not the greatest ever because of the fact that he's only 14th in regular season GWG's and that regular season stats are meaningless, and then when it's mentioned that he's actually #1 all time in playoff GWG's he just says that it should be ignored because he didn't dig pucks out of corners? Is this really happening here? And this where the inception soundtrack comes on.
Every time he posts and/or makes a new account... http://inception.davepedu.com/noflash.php
:D
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Hamhuis gets no respect. One of the most underrated players in the league.
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so something interesting I just found: american users dont have to look at yahoo's dogshit new sports interface if they go to yahoo canada for nhl. yay!
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I never understood how anyone could have Lemeuix or Howe above Gretzky. In mario's wiki, the word second comes up 27 times, and almost all are mentioning him in comparison with Gretzky. Howe was obviously very good, but only old timers really buy into him being better because of all his truculence. While admittedly badass as hell, scoring wise, there wasn't anywhere close to the gulf between him and the rest of the pack as there was with Gretzky and the rest, or even Lemieux and other forwards. What he had in toughness, those two made up for greatly with skill, playing against much, much better players to boot.
Orr is really the only one that rivals Gretzky in any way as far as pure dominance.
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