EPTThe 2014 NHL Season - Two Accounts, No Cups - Page 91
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thezanursic
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thezanursic
5497 Posts
On January 09 2014 14:50 thezanursic wrote: Anže Kopitar still a thing, apparently he was a thing (even here on the other side of the globe), LA knights going 2nd last yr or am I wrong? Sorry apparently that was 2012 | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On January 09 2014 17:27 GolemMadness wrote: So much about this confuses me. Me too So anyways do you think Toews or Crosby captains Canada. I pray that its toews and that crysbaby doesn't even get an A | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5449 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:12 QuanticHawk wrote: I never understood how anyone could have Lemeuix or Howe above Gretzky. In mario's wiki, the word second comes up 27 times, and almost all are mentioning him in comparison with Gretzky. Howe was obviously very good, but only old timers really buy into him being better because of all his truculence. While admittedly badass as hell, scoring wise, there wasn't anywhere close to the gulf between him and the rest of the pack as there was with Gretzky and the rest, or even Lemieux and other forwards. What he had in toughness, those two made up for greatly with skill, playing against much, much better players to boot. Orr is really the only one that rivals Gretzky in any way as far as pure dominance. I think a lot has to do with the fact the Mario never played a full season, had cancer and all that shit and was still pretty dominant despite all that... If he played 18 seasons or whatever fully healthy he could have done better. I still think Wayne's better anyway, but I'm sure that's some of the reasoning behind Mario... | ||
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Flaccid
8850 Posts
On January 09 2014 10:34 QuanticHawk wrote: ... number of accounts owned?? KEEP ON MUCKIN IN THE CORNER looooooooooool JJR may have 3 "regular" season accounts but he posts in an "era" where 9/10 posters make the playoffs ask other posters who GPOAT is thats "what" I "thought" | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
On January 09 2014 18:20 SoleSteeler wrote: I think a lot has to do with the fact the Mario never played a full season, in Lemieux's first 5 years only a handful of NHLers played more games than he did. the prime reason Lemieux gets consideration as GOAT is that when healthy in his prime IN THE PLAYOFFS ONLY Lemieux was better than Gretzky. Lemieux played a very lazy "Q" style in the regular season. u know what that means right? if not... do some research. There were probably only 50 or so games where Mario played at his absolute peak. But, every one i've talked to who saw it LIVE said it was the most dominant performance by a single player they've ever seen including Gretzky and Orr. Mario when healthy in the playoffs played better than Gretzky. For some people that is enough for them to say Mario > Wayne There is also some francophone bias in favour of Mario. This is why Lemieux gets considered the GOAT by some people. Listen to the reverence in Gretzky's voice when he talks about Mario. How often do you hear that reverence from Wayne? There is good reason for it. you have to watch the LIVE game to really make an assessment. everything else is just guessing. TV doesn't do the game justice. has Anthopoulos been fired yet?  | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32088 Posts
On January 09 2014 18:20 SoleSteeler wrote: I think a lot has to do with the fact the Mario never played a full season, had cancer and all that shit and was still pretty dominant despite all that... If he played 18 seasons or whatever fully healthy he could have done better. I still think Wayne's better anyway, but I'm sure that's some of the reasoning behind Mario... Mario had several healthy seasons in his prime before cancer and back injuries really fucked him up. Gretzky was better from a ppg rate in almost all of those years. Playing longer would have boosted his total points definitely, and it is safe to say there wouldn't be a 1,000 point gap between Gretzky and #2 on the all time list if Mario played as much. But besting Gretzky's total scoring rate is doubtful. Gretzky had 9 years in a row where he scored more than 2.xx points a game. His ppg rate was higher than Mario's in the regular season and in the playoffs (I don't know why Jimmy loves to state that Mario was much better in the playoffs it's clear he wasn't in any measurable way). Gretzky also had many more years playing past him prime in his 30s, which dragged down his ppg rate. If Gretzky retired at 31 like mario did , his scoring rate would be insanely high | ||
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Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
On January 10 2014 04:17 QuanticHawk wrote: Mario had several healthy seasons in his prime before cancer and back injuries really fucked him up. Gretzky was better from a ppg rate in almost all of those years. Playing longer would have boosted his total points definitely, and it is safe to say there wouldn't be a 1,000 point gap between Gretzky and #2 on the all time list if Mario played as much. But besting Gretzky's total scoring rate is doubtful. Gretzky had 9 years in a row where he scored more than 2.xx points a game. His ppg rate was higher than Mario's in the regular season and in the playoffs (I don't know why Jimmy loves to state that Mario was much better in the playoffs it's clear he wasn't in any measurable way). Gretzky also had many more years playing past him prime in his 30s, which dragged down his ppg rate. If Gretzky retired at 31 like mario did , his scoring rate would be insanely high And frankly, in Gretzky's last season, he still put up 70 ish points with his own bad back and being 39, that's a damn fine season these days for a lot of players. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
 Can we fucking get rid of Carlyle already? | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32088 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5449 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On January 10 2014 11:33 SoleSteeler wrote: I can't imagine Wayne scoring 92 goals in a season. >_< Same year he set 50 in 39 games. He was the best at putting the puck behind the goalies | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On January 10 2014 11:15 QuanticHawk wrote: i dont understand how carlyle and nonis have jobs still I don't know if I'm becoming that delusional Leafs fan, but I'm starting to believe they ARE doing their jobs. Our fanbase is like an abused dog out of Michael Vick's basement--we're loyal and come back wagging our fucking tails season after season despite all the shit we're put through with the previous one, so why bother? And I'm sure it's exactly what people like Bettman want if it means leaving playoff spots open for other big market American teams to make deep runs and aggressively try and expand the NHL. ugh the Leafs are officially out of a playoff spot as of last night's 6-1 blowout to the Canes | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
I shouldn't just single out the leafs though, there are a few teams that make the most out of the start of the season where teamwork and chemistry for lots of teams just haven't clicked since summer break. (Minny and Colorado being other teams) | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32088 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
1. Cricket 2. Hockey 3. Basketball 4. Tennis 5. Baseball 6. Golf 7. Soccer 8. Boxing infinity. American football Any other sports I'm forgetting? For some I just have no idea (e.g., Rugby). | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
feeds ovechkin to make it 1-0 caps-leafs  | ||
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