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Is SC2 more like GO or Chess?

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Ratix
Profile Joined November 2007
Italy36 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 17:55:45
April 26 2013 15:02 GMT
#1
Chess and go are two diametrical strategic board games. In chess, at the beginning of the game it is very easy to clearly foresee how the game will develop in the next few rounds. Simply, the game is not complex at the beginning, while in more later stages it becomes almost impossible to clearly foresee the consequences of each actions. In GO, on the other hand, there is not a limited set of very rigid rules to follow at the beginning, though there are some guidelines that ought to be followed. In more advances stages, instead, intuition is substituted by clear logic of how one should move.
How would you define SC2 with regards to these two types of game? Is SC2 more like chess or GO? I'm led to think that it is more like chess. The fact that there are disparate build orders guides on google is a piece of evidence in favor of this hypothesis. In addition,style and intuition take over later in the game. Nevertheless, since new build orders are "discovered" even after months or years the release of the game (bisu's cannon/stargate vs. zerg in BW is an example that comes to my mind), I wonder whether SC2 is really like chess or not.
What's your opinion about this? Do you think a possible answer could be that SC2 is in the middle?


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blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
April 26 2013 15:05 GMT
#2
SC2 is a game of incomplete information, and is probably very unlike both games.
Atlasy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hungary229 Posts
April 26 2013 15:10 GMT
#3
it's more similar to Poker imo
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
April 26 2013 15:14 GMT
#4
sc2 is more like bw/wc3. maybe strategy-wise, but its like comparing apples to protein shakes
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Janko
Profile Joined September 2010
Slovenia28 Posts
April 26 2013 15:14 GMT
#5
I agree with blackbird.
SC2 is a game of incomplete information and is therefore often compared to Poker. In fact, successful SC2 players are often also successful at Poker and vice-versa.
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
April 26 2013 15:14 GMT
#6
On April 27 2013 00:10 Atlasy wrote:
it's more similar to Poker imo


This is probably a more accurate answer than go or chess
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
April 26 2013 15:14 GMT
#7
It's more like starcraft bw and warcraft 3.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
April 26 2013 15:15 GMT
#8
blitz chess
lolphind
Profile Joined August 2011
United States9 Posts
April 26 2013 15:15 GMT
#9
It is more like guess who.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 26 2013 15:15 GMT
#10
It's not like either of them
Hudson Valley Progamer
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
April 26 2013 15:16 GMT
#11
More like blind-folded boxing.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
GammaRayToaster
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany25 Posts
April 26 2013 15:16 GMT
#12
Do you think a monster truck is more like a plane or more like a ship? I don't care dude. I'm off, driving my monster truck.

I wonder whether SC2 is really like chess or not.


Round based vs. real time, limited informaton vs whole visible chess field.. too much difference to seriously compare.
In the end apple are apples.

In short: the question makes no sense.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
April 26 2013 15:18 GMT
#13
Neither because both go and chess have a finite of moves you can compute.
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Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 15:22:44
April 26 2013 15:21 GMT
#14
Out of these two options, Go is a better comparison, just look at TvT, that's exactly a Go game. And chess is just too simple compared to Go or starcraft.
nZ.INFESTED
Profile Joined June 2008
Costa Rica57 Posts
April 26 2013 15:23 GMT
#15
I always consider SC more like chess mostly because in chess depending if you use Black or White pieces you could play aggressive or defensive, there many allin strats in chess that if your opponent dont anticipate you die, many openings that may give you advantage in the late or mid game, and basically observation and anticipation is the key to win, like I consider is the same in SC.
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Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
April 26 2013 15:24 GMT
#16
Starcraft is more like Risk.
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Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
April 26 2013 15:24 GMT
#17
On April 27 2013 00:05 blackbrrd wrote:
SC2 is a game of incomplete information, and is probably very unlike both games.

So is Chess. You dont know what moves your opponent will do, same as in SC2.
Meatex
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia285 Posts
April 26 2013 15:25 GMT
#18
Wow surprised by the responses
Guessing none are serious chess or go players
Yes there are differences board games being turn based while RTS games being not but the similarities in the game game design are numerous.
Chess is about using all the different "units" you have to kill your opponent's king. Certainly the unit use fits but SC2 has a vastly different goal
Go however is, I feel, very similar to SC2 at its core. Both put strong importance on board/map control to gain economy/points. You have similar importance place on timings - also in chess though I feel its stronger in go - and of course like chess you have different opening "build orders"
Really, why is real cheese so hard to come by in Korea? ^&^
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
April 26 2013 15:25 GMT
#19
On April 27 2013 00:24 Avean wrote:
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On April 27 2013 00:05 blackbrrd wrote:
SC2 is a game of incomplete information, and is probably very unlike both games.

So is Chess. You dont know what moves your opponent will do, same as in SC2.

incomplete information as you don't know ehre your opponents units are or what he's doing.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
April 26 2013 15:26 GMT
#20
It's like a mix of Poker, Chess, Boxing, Nascar (your skill comes from how well you control a piece of "machinery") and WWE (your personality means a LOT in sc2 ^_^ ).
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