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On April 09 2013 04:27 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Edit: and sorry, but although there are parts of that copy/paste editing you did that are true, but that wouldn't be the valid argument used for obvious reasons. Can you back up these facts you are claiming with data from sources in the scientific community? Because there is overwhelming research that says you are incorrect in almost every way. Or are you just going to say they are fact and then challenge us to prove you wrong?
No there isn't scientific data that proves me wrong. Try showing me some though, and I'll look through it and check out why it doesn't prove me wrong.
Also take note that I'm also smart enough to realize that as there are differences in every scenario, there are also exceptions in many of them.
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On April 09 2013 04:26 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:23 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:20 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 75 wrote:On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages. and why are only 2% of the top3000 female? Because, I'm speculating since I can't find numbers on this, the overall chess playing population only has ~2% women. The only legitimate question you can ask in a thread like this is: "Why do so few women start playing SC2/chess?" You need to understand that the two questions go hand in hand. You can't be so biased in your counter arguments. On April 09 2013 04:23 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Can you please provide a scientific source for the statement: "Women are worse at games than men because thanks to evolution their brains are worse at it"? Try opening a history book and stop trolling the internet. I am not sure I really want to know what they tought you in history.
I bet he went to U of BioTruth >.<
honestly so gross... my favorite is being like wtf are you doing on a computer go hunting its the only thing your good at bio truth man!
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On April 09 2013 04:23 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:20 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 75 wrote:On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages. and why are only 2% of the top3000 female? Because, I'm speculating since I can't find numbers on this, the overall chess playing population only has ~2% women. The only legitimate question you can ask in a thread like this is: "Why do so few women start playing SC2/chess?" You need to understand that the two questions go hand in hand. You can't be so biased in your counter arguments. Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:23 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Can you please provide a scientific source for the statement: "Women are worse at games than men because thanks to evolution their brains are worse at it"? Try opening a history book and stop trolling the internet.
History is irrelevant. It's just show what gender role and expectation were.There's no proof there that women are biologically inferior than man in games. And I might add that this is kind of a sexist comment to make.
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On April 09 2013 04:20 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:19 75 wrote:On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages. and why are only 2% of the top3000 female? Because, I'm speculating since I can't find numbers on this, the overall chess playing population only has ~2% women. The only legitimate question you can ask in a thread like this is: "Why do so few women start playing SC2/chess?"
I dont think that only 2-3% of the amount of SC2/chess players are female. imo that has sth to do with idols that help you to keep your motivation up. For example after Timo Boll or Boris Becker had some success in their sport, more children took it up and more german players are kinda successful.
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I am not a psychologist nor a biologist but my guess would be that the difference comes from very basic instincts
as far as i am aware men among almost all mammals fight each other for the dominant position
that to me explains the greater competitivenes of men which leads to more dedication
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On April 09 2013 04:35 Spackofant wrote:
I am not a psychologist nor a biologist but my guess would be that the difference comes from very basic instincts
as far as i am aware men among almost all mammals fight each other for the dominant position
that to me explains the greater competitivenes of men which leads to more dedication
NO! soceity tells men to be compeditive and tells women to not be competitive. thats why! dont blame the lions!
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On April 09 2013 04:26 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:23 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:20 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 75 wrote:On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages. and why are only 2% of the top3000 female? Because, I'm speculating since I can't find numbers on this, the overall chess playing population only has ~2% women. The only legitimate question you can ask in a thread like this is: "Why do so few women start playing SC2/chess?" You need to understand that the two questions go hand in hand. You can't be so biased in your counter arguments. On April 09 2013 04:23 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Can you please provide a scientific source for the statement: "Women are worse at games than men because thanks to evolution their brains are worse at it"? Try opening a history book and stop trolling the internet. I am not sure I really want to know what they tought you in history.
The same thing we were all taught in history class. He is just a victim of his own selective memory, which cherry picks facts from the recesses of his mind to reinforce his view on the world. After all, most people who believe raciest or sexist things have been presented with overwhelming evidence they are incorrect. But, like a finely tuned machine, they process and disregard these facts with amazing speed. They have a set of redefined reasons why those facts are invalid and just plug in and apply when necessary.
Never underestimate the power of fools to ignore anything would disprove their belief in the way the world works. The proficiency with which they warp their own reality would be awe inspiring if it wasn’t so pathetic
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On April 09 2013 04:35 Spackofant wrote:
I am not a psychologist nor a biologist but my guess would be that the difference comes from very basic instincts
as far as i am aware men among almost all mammals fight each other for the dominant position
that to me explains the greater competitivenes of men which leads to more dedication
Yeah, that could play a role too. Would call it education and not basic instinct though.
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On April 09 2013 04:31 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:27 Plansix wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Edit: and sorry, but although there are parts of that copy/paste editing you did that are true, but that wouldn't be the valid argument used for obvious reasons. Can you back up these facts you are claiming with data from sources in the scientific community? Because there is overwhelming research that says you are incorrect in almost every way. Or are you just going to say they are fact and then challenge us to prove you wrong? No there isn't scientific data that proves me wrong. Try showing me some though, and I'll look through it and check out why it doesn't prove me wrong. Also take note that I'm also smart enough to realize that as there are differences in every scenario, there are also exceptions in many of them.
No, I feel not need to provide you with proof of given fact that there that women are at no disadvantage when it comes to skills of hand eye coordination and multitasking. They can play the piano, drums and be prime minister of a nation. You and your beliefs are a relic of a previous time and have no baring on the modern world. You are wrong and people have done the work for me. You are just to much of a fool to admit it.
Proving you wrong is like me wasting my time arguing with someone who does not believe the moon landing took place. As pointless an exercise as screaming at the rain.
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On April 09 2013 04:33 Shodaa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:23 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:20 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 75 wrote:On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages. and why are only 2% of the top3000 female? Because, I'm speculating since I can't find numbers on this, the overall chess playing population only has ~2% women. The only legitimate question you can ask in a thread like this is: "Why do so few women start playing SC2/chess?" You need to understand that the two questions go hand in hand. You can't be so biased in your counter arguments. On April 09 2013 04:23 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Can you please provide a scientific source for the statement: "Women are worse at games than men because thanks to evolution their brains are worse at it"? Try opening a history book and stop trolling the internet. History is irrelevant. It's just show what gender role and expectation were.There's no proof there that women are biologically inferior than man in games. And I might add that this is kind of a sexist comment to make.
lol, to you and everyone else who thinks history is irrelevant. I hope you're able to catch on pretty soon on how wrong you are.
History is one of the most clear pieces of evidence in the world. "Scientific findings" are proven wrong by "scientific findings" every day of the year, while history remains stone. There is so much to be learned through history. Please open your eyes.
Everyone needs to realize though, there is give and take in everything. Every piece of scientific evidence, every page in a history book, every first hand experience a person has, has some aspects that can be applied generally and others that can't. Don't be so close minded to think that 1 article or 1 scientist has the complete answer to an issue at hand.
Expand your minds~!
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Because most women don't play it - it's as simple as that.
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On April 09 2013 04:43 TortoiseCa wrote:
Because most women don't play it - it's as simple as that.
Studies have shown that 30%-40% of gamers are womens.
edit: On a side note most women said they play because of fun
my assumption here is that competition in video games is for them not fun
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On April 09 2013 03:13 Xarell wrote:
Studies taken with a group of man and women playing some kind of go-like game in an MRI has shown, that the male brains pleasure center was more active when successful and therefore making it easier to learn an effective strategy.
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On April 09 2013 04:41 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:33 Shodaa wrote:On April 09 2013 04:23 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:20 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 75 wrote:On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages. and why are only 2% of the top3000 female? Because, I'm speculating since I can't find numbers on this, the overall chess playing population only has ~2% women. The only legitimate question you can ask in a thread like this is: "Why do so few women start playing SC2/chess?" You need to understand that the two questions go hand in hand. You can't be so biased in your counter arguments. On April 09 2013 04:23 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Can you please provide a scientific source for the statement: "Women are worse at games than men because thanks to evolution their brains are worse at it"? Try opening a history book and stop trolling the internet. History is irrelevant. It's just show what gender role and expectation were.There's no proof there that women are biologically inferior than man in games. And I might add that this is kind of a sexist comment to make. lol, to you and everyone else who thinks history is irrelevant. I hope you're able to catch on pretty soon on how wrong you are. History is one of the most clear pieces of evidence in the world. "Scientific findings" are proven wrong by "scientific findings" every day of the year, while history remains stone. There is so much to be learned through history. Please open your eyes. Everyone needs to realize though, there is give and take in everything. Every piece of scientific evidence, every page in a history book, every first hand experience a person has, has some aspects that can be applied generally and others that can't. Don't be so close minded to think that 1 article or 1 scientist has the complete answer to an issue at hand. Expand your minds~!
sexist person who thinks history is one of the most clear pieces of evidence in the world tells me to open my mind.
theres something i can check off my forum scavenger hunt.
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On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Edit: and sorry, but although there are parts of that copy/paste editing you did that are true, but that wouldn't be the valid argument used for obvious reasons.
Well, I'll have you know, by facts, that there are more than two genders.
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On April 09 2013 04:41 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:31 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:27 Plansix wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Edit: and sorry, but although there are parts of that copy/paste editing you did that are true, but that wouldn't be the valid argument used for obvious reasons. Can you back up these facts you are claiming with data from sources in the scientific community? Because there is overwhelming research that says you are incorrect in almost every way. Or are you just going to say they are fact and then challenge us to prove you wrong? No there isn't scientific data that proves me wrong. Try showing me some though, and I'll look through it and check out why it doesn't prove me wrong. Also take note that I'm also smart enough to realize that as there are differences in every scenario, there are also exceptions in many of them. No, I feel not need to provide you with proof of given fact that there that women are at no disadvantage when it comes to skills of hand eye coordination and multitasking. They can play the piano, drums and be prime minister of a nation. You and your beliefs are a relic of a previous time and have no baring on the modern world. You are wrong and people have done the work for me. You are just to much of a fool to admit it. Proving you wrong is like me wasting my time arguing with someone who does not believe the moon landing took place. As pointless an exercise as screaming at the rain.
lol, then you're doing me a favor by saving me the time proving you wrong in your own research.
Yes women can play the piano, drums, and be prime minister of a nation. You seem to be catching on to the fact that the world has changed more in the past few centuries than it did during the rest of its existence. I also do believe that I referenced this fact already in a previous post I made in this same thread.
Women are becoming increasingly talented in things that they were not talented in before, due to their complete lack of experience. It doesn't take that long for this change to occur when the correct circumstances pull themselves together.
Where there wasn't something before is exactly where something can and will be in the future. The biggest keypoint here is that it wasn't there before, and needs to be developed before it's there.
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On April 09 2013 04:47 lookfirewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Edit: and sorry, but although there are parts of that copy/paste editing you did that are true, but that wouldn't be the valid argument used for obvious reasons. Well, I'll have you know, by facts, that there are more than two genders.
The word gender was carefully NOT used in his statement. Thanks though.
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On April 09 2013 04:47 lookfirewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Edit: and sorry, but although there are parts of that copy/paste editing you did that are true, but that wouldn't be the valid argument used for obvious reasons. Well, I'll have you know, by facts, that there are more than two genders.
Pretty sure biologically all mammals,at least, have exactly two genders.
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On April 09 2013 02:58 Archas wrote:
Isn't it as simple as the top female players not currently being as skilled as the top male players? It's not an issue of sex, but one of a small amount of women not playing at the same level as the top tier in a massive pool of male players. If more girls start playing, odds are you'd see more girls playing at the top level.
EDIT: Not to mention that, generally speaking, girls who play video games regularly are a minority among females. How many of those girl gamers are willing to play a game as complex and difficult as StarCraft at a competitive level, and how many of THOSE are willing to train to become the best at that game?
That edit is spot on.
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On April 09 2013 04:44 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:41 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:33 Shodaa wrote:On April 09 2013 04:23 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:20 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 75 wrote:On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages. and why are only 2% of the top3000 female? Because, I'm speculating since I can't find numbers on this, the overall chess playing population only has ~2% women. The only legitimate question you can ask in a thread like this is: "Why do so few women start playing SC2/chess?" You need to understand that the two questions go hand in hand. You can't be so biased in your counter arguments. On April 09 2013 04:23 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:19 Shinta) wrote:On April 09 2013 04:17 r.Evo wrote:On April 09 2013 04:12 Shinta) wrote:
Black people's bodies and brains both work differently than those of men. Over time, black people can, and are developing the ability and motivation to compete with white people in games, but as history has dictated, games are something for white people to do, not black people.
It's as simple as white people being more adept at games than women due to an entire history of experience compared to 0 experience. So is this what you would argue if we'd ask "Why are there so few black people playing SC2 at a competitive level?" - just to show you that your argument is nothing but sexist at its best. Sexist at best.... Don't you know that human bodiest are sexist? Some are male and some are female, how sexist!!!! Sorry, but facts are facts. The fact that you feel facts to be offensive is another helpless fact. Can you please provide a scientific source for the statement: "Women are worse at games than men because thanks to evolution their brains are worse at it"? Try opening a history book and stop trolling the internet. History is irrelevant. It's just show what gender role and expectation were.There's no proof there that women are biologically inferior than man in games. And I might add that this is kind of a sexist comment to make. lol, to you and everyone else who thinks history is irrelevant. I hope you're able to catch on pretty soon on how wrong you are. History is one of the most clear pieces of evidence in the world. "Scientific findings" are proven wrong by "scientific findings" every day of the year, while history remains stone. There is so much to be learned through history. Please open your eyes. Everyone needs to realize though, there is give and take in everything. Every piece of scientific evidence, every page in a history book, every first hand experience a person has, has some aspects that can be applied generally and others that can't. Don't be so close minded to think that 1 article or 1 scientist has the complete answer to an issue at hand. Expand your minds~! sexist person who thinks history is one of the most clear pieces of evidence in the world tells me to open my mind. theres something i can check off my forum scavenger hunt.
Hard to call me sexist when I'm one of the biggest supporters of females in eSports and sports in general.
Luway was my favorite player when she was most active, and I will always support Eve and Luway so long as they play this game.
Also long time fan of ColaGirl and MiSs.
I've always explained that women can and will become better at games, as they have with most other things. It's just a matter of time, but there are reasons they aren't yet, at this point in time.
So I repeat, stop being so close minded.
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On April 09 2013 03:58 r.Evo wrote:Please don't mindlessly add things to the OP to prove your point when it's not proving it at all. Show nested quote +Chess is another great example, Judit polgar is the only female GM to peak at above 2700 elo (2735), and is currently 2695 the highest ranked female chess player in the world. at this moment there are nearly 50 male GM's above 2700, the highest ranked being magnus carlson at 2868. GM: 1380 total GMs, 1353 (98%) male, 27 female (2%). IM: 3036total, IMs, 2953 male (97.3%), 83 female (2.7%) Top 50: 49 male (98%), 1 female (2%) ...notice a pattern? There are just as many women in the top 50 as in the top 3000 if you look at percentages.
according to a study in 2012 48% of game purchasers were female so by your logic nearly half the gm ladder should be women. I would believe that the culture of gaming and just the west in general is more geared toward male gamers than female, but that doesn't explain why the females who do play don't play as well as the male players.
http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2012.pdf
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