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TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
December 13 2012 12:55 GMT
#21
You can punish all the people involved as much as you wan't, but that doesn't change the failure of the education system that allows the existence of such individuals.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 13 2012 12:56 GMT
#22
No problem with defending yourself if people are coming at you. The problem starts when you are a male against 2 females, using a fucking weapon, and not even stopping when they are down.

Guy should go to jail.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 12:57:48
December 13 2012 12:56 GMT
#23
On December 13 2012 21:46 Nabes wrote:
I dont think it was excessive, if you have people coming at you and trying to hurt you, you bet your ass you will retaliate with the pain train.


One of his victims required surgery after suffering a fractured skull and a broken arm and the other suffered cuts.


Just making sure no details were missed. After getting the gist of what happened, I agreed that the girls deserved it. But after watching the video, and reading some of the details, even I thought it was way too brutal. Guy kept on going even when they were both down, way out of line.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 13 2012 12:57 GMT
#24
On December 13 2012 21:55 TigerKarl wrote:
You can punish all the people involved as much as you wan't, but that doesn't change the failure of the education system that allows the existence of such individuals.


Or that poor McDonald's workers have to serve people like that (and worse) everyday.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
December 13 2012 12:59 GMT
#25
I don't know why but I find it 10x funnier when asshole girls get hurt than their male counterparts.

I used to work in a bar and I can see that the "metal rod" the man used is actually the tool meant for unclogging the fryer spouts.

Almost undoubtedly was coated in dirty (up to 400 degree) old fryer oil from the end of the previous night. Bits of old fries and sticky ass grease.

Now imagine doctors wiping away all the old mcdonalds bullshit to treat the fracture on that bitches head.

I heard you like to fight, girl. But are you angrier than a mcdonalds employee? Didn't think so
Terran.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
December 13 2012 13:00 GMT
#26
On December 13 2012 21:54 Latham wrote:
This seems like sensationalist bull, rather than news...
He should have just easily overpowered them and pushed them away....

Maybe its just my inner white-boy calling, but I can't imagine overpowering two women who (judging by the video) are as big as I am, get a grip.
heyitskez
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia58 Posts
December 13 2012 13:01 GMT
#27
If you listen really closesly, 1. its not the attackers(the women) yelling stop, its customers.2.you can hear him say "stay down" then he hits them maybe after they try to get back up? 3. If i were an american and someone tried to jump the counter, who the fuck knows what they might have on them, a knife, a gun? I probably would have done the same thing. It's well and good to sit here and say "well he should have stopped when...blah blah blah" but when you're in the heat of the moment and adrenaline is running through you and you don't know what might happen, i think you can be given a bit of lee-way.
"The mark of a man if not how he treats his friends, but his enemies."
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
December 13 2012 13:01 GMT
#28
He definitely had a right to defend himself even if some would disagree with the magnitude of the retaliation.

On December 13 2012 21:50 Obstikal wrote:
Sort of actually glad to hear "justice" was served to the women even if it was street justice.

Sick of bitches going around thinking they run the world and do w/e they want. Im glad he put them in their place and hopefully taught them not to act out like that again.

Just to let you know, that series of sentences has an ambiguity which could be interpreted as misogynistic. It's very difficult to tell if you meant "all women" or "those women" need justice.
Who dat ninja?
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
December 13 2012 13:02 GMT
#29
On December 13 2012 21:56 Tobberoth wrote:
No problem with defending yourself if people are coming at you. The problem starts when you are a male against 2 females, using a fucking weapon, and not even stopping when they are down.

Guy should go to jail.


Implying you know more about the U.S. justice system than the ruling judge.
Terran.
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 13:04:18
December 13 2012 13:03 GMT
#30
On December 13 2012 21:56 Tobberoth wrote:
No problem with defending yourself if people are coming at you. The problem starts when you are a male against 2 females, using a fucking weapon, and not even stopping when they are down.

Guy should go to jail.



So if it was a female against 2 males it would be OK?

How is that?
Because males in general are more aggressive and might attack unprovoked? Like those two cunts?

Honestly, if more than one person attacks me I hope I have the clarity to use a weapon and make sure the threat is completely gone before I stop.

It can happen way too fast that one of them gets behind you while you are dealing with the other.


Yes it looks really brutal on the video but I don't know what the girls do while on the ground, maybe they are getting up again, not yet satisfied with the outcome.

Great stuff that he was cleared of the charges.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
December 13 2012 13:04 GMT
#31
Well pretty fucked up story either way.
Of course if you have all the infos you can easely go about saying he should have just pushed her away. The problem is in that situation when someone is crazy enough to explode over such a trivial matter you simply don't know what happens next. A slap to the face is one thing, but jumping the counter afterwards is definitely something that puts the danger level for the attacked to a new height.

Unfortunately for him after he has them down you can really see him leaning into the next whoop ass with aggressive power. And that for me is over the top. Means he completely forgot where he was and who he was. And that's a real shame because he could have been "Rayon Big McIntosh" :/
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
December 13 2012 13:05 GMT
#32
well he should have hit once to stop them, then call the police. That would have been self-defense
but hitting someone thats lying on the ground is too much and he got rightfully fired for that

I think thats common sense?
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
December 13 2012 13:05 GMT
#33
On December 13 2012 21:54 Latham wrote:
Who picks up an metal bar and hits a woman with it?


Put your self in his shoes, Two crazy angry women berate you for sometime then come attack you what would you do ? Calmly defuse the situation right ? He's not a trained in keeping calm in stressful situation like these, no one at mcdonalds is im sure.

If you were to break it down. I'm sure over the course of however long they were cursing at him he was getting angry and frustrated because he was just doing his job and some crazy women randomly had it out for him. He seemingly keeps his cool until they jump out at him.

At this point he's probably lost a bit of himself mentally just because of the anger thats built up to this point and now he has to defend himself against these people who have gone from "they are angry at me to they are trying to attack me". It's hard to make the right decisions when under that amount of pressure. I'm sure all he thought was I need to get these crazy bitches from hurting me.

In the end both people were wrong, him for hitting them a few more times then necessary and them for everything they caused
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
December 13 2012 13:06 GMT
#34
On December 13 2012 22:01 urashimakt wrote:
He definitely had a right to defend himself even if some would disagree with the magnitude of the retaliation.

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 21:50 Obstikal wrote:
Sort of actually glad to hear "justice" was served to the women even if it was street justice.

Sick of bitches going around thinking they run the world and do w/e they want. Im glad he put them in their place and hopefully taught them not to act out like that again.

Just to let you know, that series of sentences has an ambiguity which could be interpreted as misogynistic. It's very difficult to tell if you meant "all women" or "those women" need justice.

He said "THE women." Definite article. There's no ambiguity. And just in case you imagined one, he clarified later with "bitches." Do you honestly think this guy is calling every single woman a bitch?
Terran.
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
December 13 2012 13:07 GMT
#35
On December 13 2012 22:04 Jayson X wrote:
Well pretty fucked up story either way.
Of course if you have all the infos you can easely go about saying he should have just pushed her away. The problem is in that situation when someone is crazy enough to explode over such a trivial matter you simply don't know what happens next. A slap to the face is one thing, but jumping the counter afterwards is definitely something that puts the danger level for the attacked to a new height.

Unfortunately for him after he has them down you can really see him leaning into the next whoop ass with aggressive power. And that for me is over the top. Means he completely forgot where he was and who he was. And that's a real shame because he could have been "Rayon Big McIntosh" :/



Yes you can see him clearly. But you cannot see the two women.
What if one was reaching into a pocket or something? Maybe she's got pepper spray on her.

He can't take that risk against multiple attackers.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
December 13 2012 13:07 GMT
#36
The things is, the man is fleeing at first, and then grab a pole and defend himself almost in the kitchen so I'd say, even if he went a little to far into beating them (the threat of the pole should have been enough to make those bitches back off) I can understand that, in the context, with the shame of getting insulted by two bitches while doing a work nobody can be proud of, he lost himself and hit a little too much.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
December 13 2012 13:07 GMT
#37
Dem girls... Harsh treatment but asked for it.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9589 Posts
December 13 2012 13:08 GMT
#38
On December 13 2012 22:00 Jojo131 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 21:54 Latham wrote:
This seems like sensationalist bull, rather than news...
He should have just easily overpowered them and pushed them away....

Maybe its just my inner white-boy calling, but I can't imagine overpowering two women who (judging by the video) are as big as I am, get a grip.


Then maybe your inner white-boy should man up, put on at least a lil bit of muscle, try to keep a level head.
They weren't men, they weren't strength athletes, just 2 ghetto bitches trying to act high n mighty.
Instead of picking up a weapon slam them into the nearest wall with your innate man strength.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
December 13 2012 13:09 GMT
#39
On December 13 2012 22:08 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 22:00 Jojo131 wrote:
On December 13 2012 21:54 Latham wrote:
This seems like sensationalist bull, rather than news...
He should have just easily overpowered them and pushed them away....

Maybe its just my inner white-boy calling, but I can't imagine overpowering two women who (judging by the video) are as big as I am, get a grip.


Then maybe your inner white-boy should man up, put on at least a lil bit of muscle, try to keep a level head.
They weren't men, they weren't strength athletes, just 2 ghetto bitches trying to act high n mighty.
Instead of picking up a weapon slam them into the nearest wall with your innate man strength.



Guys, try to avoid feeding this one!
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
December 13 2012 13:10 GMT
#40
On December 13 2012 22:06 HoLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 22:01 urashimakt wrote:
He definitely had a right to defend himself even if some would disagree with the magnitude of the retaliation.

On December 13 2012 21:50 Obstikal wrote:
Sort of actually glad to hear "justice" was served to the women even if it was street justice.

Sick of bitches going around thinking they run the world and do w/e they want. Im glad he put them in their place and hopefully taught them not to act out like that again.

Just to let you know, that series of sentences has an ambiguity which could be interpreted as misogynistic. It's very difficult to tell if you meant "all women" or "those women" need justice.

He said "THE women." Definite article. There's no ambiguity. And just in case you imagined one, he clarified later with "bitches." Do you honestly think this guy is calling every single woman a bitch?

No, which is why I didn't say he was. I said it could be read that way and it can. I automatically assumed he didn't mean it that way.
Who dat ninja?
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