EPTOn December 13 2012 21:54 Latham wrote:
Who picks up an metal bar and hits a woman with it?
Who picks up an metal bar and hits a woman with it?
So hitting a man with said metal bar is ok with you?
McDonald's Employee Fights Back, hits girls. - Page 3
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
So hitting a man with said metal bar is ok with you? | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:07 WhiteDog wrote: The things is, the man is fleeing at first, and then grab a pole and defend himself almost in the kitchen so I'd say, even if he went a little to far into beating them (the threat of the pole should have been enough to make those bitches back off) I can understand that, in the context, with the shame of getting insulted by two bitches while doing a work nobody can be proud of, he lost himself and hit a little too much. On the other hand, him 'fleeing' could also mean "Bitch u stay right there, ima be right back with my pole to smack you up" | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:11 Jojo131 wrote: On the other hand, him 'fleeing' could also mean "Bitch u stay right there, ima be right back with my pole to smack you up" Or it simply means kittens... | ||
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Ficetool
Germany165 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:08 Latham wrote: Then maybe your inner white-boy should man up, put on at least a lil bit of muscle, try to keep a level head. They weren't men, they weren't strength athletes, just 2 ghetto bitches trying to act high n mighty. Instead of picking up a weapon slam them into the nearest wall with your innate man strength. while the other one may draw a knife while you do so and stab you? I am glad you are not jumping to conclusions you see fit but fully thought this through. /sarcasm | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
Way too deep for me to understand. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
I can't say I feel sorry for em and they very much so had it coming. | ||
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Latham
9569 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:12 Ficetool wrote: while the other one may draw a knife while you do so and stab you? I am glad you are not jumping to conclusions you see fit but fully thought this through. /sarcasm Did you see a firearm? Did you see a knife? No? Well then don't use objects yourself. He panicked and used excessive force, it's understandable and even excusable, but that doesn't make it any more right. | ||
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Coal
Sweden1535 Posts
But when it's two ''defenseless'' women?! If we are striving for equality (which we should) it should cover every aspect of the spectrum, not just getting the benefits of one part and then saying ''BUT I'M A WEAK DEFENSELESS WOMEN WHO CAN'T STAND UP FOR MYSELF'' when you're hit... Not that you should actually go around hitting peoeple (regardless on gender), but I've had some really fucked up experiences with women getting away with verbal/physcial assault (rather harsh)... | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:14 Vaelone wrote: Employee went way overboard beating them with the pipe after they were already down, although we can't see what exactly is happening behind the desk from this view. Shouldn't have had to resort to beating two girls with a metal pipe as the first solution anyway. I can't say I feel sorry for em and they very much so had it coming. They stopped being girls the moment they decided they wanted to become assailants, though. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
All partys are very much to blame, and all should be punished. | ||
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Kakaru2
198 Posts
In any case, jumping the counter is like trespassing. They did that and they took the blame for the whole incident. I think this was also the reason behind him not getting charged. | ||
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jackalope1234
122 Posts
On December 13 2012 21:54 Latham wrote: This seems like sensationalist bull, rather than news... So a former convict was assaulted by 2 women and he retaliated with a metal pipe in self defense. Of course, the metal pipe was an over exaggeration, but the bitches had it coming. From the story it seems all 3 are not right in the head. Who in their right mind gets angry and then attacks a clerk for checking if a banknote is valid or forged? Who picks up an metal bar and hits a woman with it? He should have just easily overpowered them and pushed them away. After that lock them in and call the cops. The court clearing him of charges is... weird and right at the same time. Sure it was self defense but a pipe is a bit much. McD had every right to fire him. The story makes him look (probably not true in real life) like a psychopath. No company would want to be associated with an employee who did that... Man or woman I'm not taking a single bruise nick or cut if I have the option after I know harm is intended upon me. The first hits totally justified the remaining ones I dont know. No one really knows what the women looked like and if they still posed a threat later as they are behind the counter. If I had any second thoughts of them getting up sure but if they were unconcious or unresponsive then yea can call it quits. Also from the the video the poles looks and sounds quite thin but apparently it did a lot of damage. Either way the women should be charged with assault as well as she slapped him. Man or woman this one sided kind of justice is ridiculous. Especially when you look at the animals some of these women are. | ||
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noD
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adwodon
United Kingdom592 Posts
On December 13 2012 21:55 TigerKarl wrote: You can punish all the people involved as much as you wan't, but that doesn't change the failure of the education system that allows the existence of such individuals. It's a bit narrow minded to blame something like this on an education system. Firstly, an education system is limited by resources, and those resources mean that there will always be people who slip through. For instance, I went to the best school in my area, fee paying, almost exclusively upper middle class with high rates of Oxbridge admission. That didn't stop 1-2 kids in most years going the 'drug dealer' route, one guy in my year is now a heroin junkie, lives off his dads money (very wealthy family), has been in street fights with other drug dealers and is currently in hiding from the Hells Angels after 2 girls OD'd in a club they run on his drugs, he's also had bailiffs on him multiple times and been kicked out of several flats after complaints from neighbours. In short, he is scum, but his education was from the best school in a considerable area. It's a complex system, socio-economic factors play a big role, so do physiological and psychological factors. For instance, asking a black student to state his race on an exam will result in lower scores, the same for women and sex, and the opposite is true for asian kids (they improve). So basically an education system, no matter how good, will have successes and failures. Even this means next to nothing when you consider that normal peoples tendency towards violence often stems from their economic position, you can be amazingly well educated but if you can't get a job and are working in a shitty chain restaurant taking crap from people on welfare you're not going to care for the society you're in and as a result will be more likely to act out. I genuinely wouldn't consider a lot of middle class people to be better educated, a lot of them are thick as shit with bizarre, self contained views of the world, they just have a bigger stake in society and so conform to societies rules a lot more. If you have something to lose you aren't going to risk it. Rant over. ------ I also don't care for the women in this, charges of aggravation or anti-social behaviour should really be thrown down but I don't know if the states does anything like that. He should've still been charged through, gbh is still gbh regardless, I don't understand why they would clear him. Weirdly enough I don't see this happening in the UK though, the only times you might expect it to happen, in the small hours with drunk people, McD's and co all employ bouncers. We Brits do love a good rumble when we're pissed though so you can totally understand why. | ||
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Ficetool
Germany165 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:15 Latham wrote: Did you see a firearm? Did you see a knife? No? Well then don't use objects yourself. He panicked and used excessive force, it's understandable and even excusable, but that doesn't make it any more right. I don't use objects. I simply tell you, that telling others how they should have reacted when you have no clue of the circumstances (as you don't see whats happening) OR the given situation ( you do not know about weapons either) is stupid. "Use your innate man strength"? - You don't know about waepons "try to keep a level head"? - When you can possibly get stabbed in the next few seconds? I never said anything about right or wrong, this is you clamining I do so. I don't judge the situation as I have no clue what happend behind the counter. All I say is that I can understand why the guy reacted the way he did...whether it was right or wrong is for the jury to decide, who knows all the facts. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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CapriSonne
Norway5 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45338 Posts
On December 13 2012 21:56 Tobberoth wrote: No problem with defending yourself if people are coming at you. The problem starts when you are a male against 2 females, using a fucking weapon, and not even stopping when they are down. Guy should go to jail. While I think I heard an extra whack or two that wasn't visibly caught on camera, the fact that two adults jumped one adult with the intent on clearly attacking, assaulting, and trying to cause harm is more than enough for me to justify the one adult defending himself and making sure those two people stay down until the proper authorities arrive. It's not like anyone else was helping him or restraining the two adults, and weapons (makeshift ones, mind you- he wasn't carrying around a gun exactly) will help you defend your life. And I repeatedly say "adult" because I see no reason to give women special treatment in this case. They were certainly not acting like "ladies". Plus, I know plenty of women who can go a few rounds with guys. You don't give up your right to self-defense just because your attacker wears lipstick. | ||
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